Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[F N 11]

Wah wah we got a 6’8 wing with a 7’1 wingspan who can do everything who was buried behind 8 other guys. Wahh wahhh

Stop crying hoes

The guy complained about his minutes, yet he played twice as much as Obi gets. He’s not going to play any more here unless he starts and gets 30+, and even if that happened we got a lot of other guys who shoot and handle the ball unless we trade a bunch of em. How do you see this turning out dude?

Cam got the total package on the surface but when u look past the flash there’s little substance to his game. Sure he was prob worth a shot but ppl got rights to be skeptical.

He can just continue his corner 3 48% and ramp up his defense and it’s a win for what we need. Reaching his potential is a bonus which is why the first rounder was sent. The skills are there.

Imo Burks or Fournier is probably gone.

[F N 11]

:lol:

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.....so true

was just about to post this

Stunted his growth to cater to Marcus Morris. Would of loved to see him play through his terrible defense. He won rookie of the month before .

[Polk377]

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Brunson turner or fox are most likely the targets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOX IS A WORSE SHOOTER THAN RANDLE!!!!! On a worse deal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God I hate Berman and the smug way he posts and asks questions.

[G_K_F]

I know it seems impossible to trade Fournier but he actually seems like the kind of player that trash coach in Indiana might want when we trade for Turner or LeVert or whoever. That deal will clear up a lot of the logjam

Carlisle is a great coach. Don’t know where you got ‘trash’ from, unless this is part of the continued troll.

[Marty McFly]

I think we should consider developing RJ at the PG spot like Philly did with Simmons. Seems RJ thrives with the ball in his hands and he's been making some great decisions as of late.

1-RJ
2-Grimes 3&D
3-Cam 3&D
4-Obi
5-Mitch or a stretch 5

This presumes we keep Obi long-term and dump Randle for cap relief and picks.

RJ isn't a PG, he's more of a secondary ball handler, but I agree the offense to run through him.

[3toheadmelo]

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"who can score effortlessly"

Lol these people.

I do think he has a lot of moves in his bag. That’s why a lot of us are excited about the possibilities with his upside. He just has to learn how to stay consistent. He may or may not pan out but it’s a nice gamble to take on since we gave up trash for him.

[SelbyCobra]

Also, the Hawks are betting on addition by subtraction.

They think they can be better without Reddish's minutes. And they probably will be.

That's a red flag.

I'm pretty confident you are wrong on this, the hawks traded him because they weren't going to sign him long term..they also have higher priced vets making a lot of money that are getting playing time over him to begin with..nothing to do with red flags, but again, as I stated before, the knicks got him for free. if they traded Grimes for him, that would have been a different story

This is it. The Hawks backed themselves in to a corner with Cam with the extension given to Huerter and Collins and still have to decide on Hunter who they’ve made their choice on even tho he’s injury prone. I guess Hunter’s defensive versatility is what swayed them toward choosing him in the long run. There was just too many wings in ATL. Cam slipped thru the crack

You guys are arguing two extremes, and I think the truth is somewhere in between.

Reddish's production as an NBA player (and at Duke, too) has been a major red flag, and in a vacuum it can be argued he's one of the worst players in the league. In terms of winning, the Hawks have shown they can be better without him, and the numbers back this up.

At the same time, Cam's pedigree and scouted talent is still through the roof and intriguing. Players like him - immense pedigree, and team control left - usually do not get cast away this quickly by teams, no matter how poorly they're playing, unless they're about to be out of the league. The Hawk's glut of contracts, both existing and on deck, pushed them to make a move since they are a floundering team attempting to be competitive.

So I don't think that Reddish slipped through the cracks, nor do I think ATL dumped him. The Hawks had more pressure/urgency than we usually see in these situations with underperforming, high-lotto picks, and chose to move on from the guy who was the worst player of the overpopulated group. I think it was a pretty easy decision for them based on Cam's play and attitude, but at the same time I think they would have waited him out a bit longer if it wasn't for their wing logjam.

TL;DR Cam's been a trash basketball player on the whole, but teams don't typically move guys like him unless they're forced to (star trade, cap issues, roster issues).

[Oscirus]

I know it seems impossible to trade Fournier but he actually seems like the kind of player that trash coach in Indiana might want when we trade for Turner or LeVert or whoever. That deal will clear up a lot of the logjam

as much as people might not like fournier, he's legit the only pure shooter we got

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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"who can score effortlessly"

Lol these people.

I do think he has a lot of moves in his bag. That’s why a lot of us are excited about the possibilities with his upside. He just has to learn how to stay consistent. He may or may not pan out but it’s a nice gamble to take on since we gave up trash for him.

Yup, give all Burks reps to him.

[stuporman]

Keep this in mind every time you come across something from him...Berman rhymes with vermin.

[Guano]

The Charlotte pick could've been a throw-in that helps a trade for a young player who's actually good, like Haliburton.

Now, I don't know to what extent Haliburton's actually available, and maybe Cam will break his own pattern of efficiency and ball out with the Knicks.

But I'm not a fan of trading assets for mediocre players.

I'd rather have packaged the Charlotte pick, Obi plus the Dallas pick for Hali (not sure the Kings take it but it's just a general idea). Then you get a young player who actually helps your team and who can also be traded at a later stage for a star if need be.

I don't know.

sad that youre trying to find every angle you can to sht on this trade and cam because your guy Burks mins are about to be cut or at best he is going to get traded.

[Oscirus]

I think we should consider developing RJ at the PG spot like Philly did with Simmons. Seems RJ thrives with the ball in his hands and he's been making some great decisions as of late.

1-RJ
2-Grimes 3&D
3-Cam 3&D
4-Obi
5-Mitch or a stretch 5

This presumes we keep Obi long-term and dump Randle for cap relief and picks.

RJ isn't a PG, he's more of a secondary ball handler, but I agree the offense to run through him.

yea he was a pg at times at duke but in the nba... His first start in the nba which was at pg was a disaster

[robillionaire]

I know it seems impossible to trade Fournier but he actually seems like the kind of player that trash coach in Indiana might want when we trade for Turner or LeVert or whoever. That deal will clear up a lot of the logjam

Carlisle is a great coach. Don’t know where you got ‘trash’ from, unless this is part of the continued troll.

So great that he hasn’t won a playoff series in a decade with generational talents, hilarious had KP standing in a corner for an entire playoff series where he blew a 2-0 lead, and just about ran Luka out of town, and has now taken the Pacers to one of the worst records in the NBA in his return to Indiana with players demanding trades to get away from him after his first stint there when he oversaw the malice in the palace. JKidd was the player coach in 2011.

[robillionaire]

The Charlotte pick could've been a throw-in that helps a trade for a young player who's actually good, like Haliburton.

Now, I don't know to what extent Haliburton's actually available, and maybe Cam will break his own pattern of efficiency and ball out with the Knicks.

But I'm not a fan of trading assets for mediocre players.

I'd rather have packaged the Charlotte pick, Obi plus the Dallas pick for Hali (not sure the Kings take it but it's just a general idea). Then you get a young player who actually helps your team and who can also be traded at a later stage for a star if need be.

I don't know.

sad that youre trying to find every angle you can to sht on this trade and cam because your guy Burks mins are about to be cut or at best he is going to get traded.

I like the trade but if we are being honest Burks has been a better player than Reddish

[G_K_F]

I know it seems impossible to trade Fournier but he actually seems like the kind of player that trash coach in Indiana might want when we trade for Turner or LeVert or whoever. That deal will clear up a lot of the logjam

Carlisle is a great coach. Don’t know where you got ‘trash’ from, unless this is part of the continued troll.

So great that he hasn’t won a playoff series in a decade with generational talents, hilarious had KP standing in a corner for an entire playoff series where he blew a 2-0 lead, and just about ran Luka out of town, and has now taken the Pacers to one of the worst records in the NBA in his return to Indiana with players demanding trades to get away from him after his first stint there when he oversaw the malice in the palace. JKidd was the player coach in 2011.

Yeah, that's an awful take. Sorry, man.

[robillionaire]

I know it seems impossible to trade Fournier but he actually seems like the kind of player that trash coach in Indiana might want when we trade for Turner or LeVert or whoever. That deal will clear up a lot of the logjam

as much as people might not like fournier, he's legit the only pure shooter we got

Maybe but his defense is so bad that he negates his shooting and his salary is so bad it makes it all a huge negative. Burks shoots 41% from 3 on a cheaper deal and tries on defense, if I had to keep only one of them easily would rather have burks. Reddish is coming in as a 38% shooter from 3 so about the same percentage as Fournier. We got dudes like IQ and Grimes who can fill it up. We’ll be ok

[robillionaire]

Carlisle is a great coach. Don’t know where you got ‘trash’ from, unless this is part of the continued troll.

So great that he hasn’t won a playoff series in a decade with generational talents, hilarious had KP standing in a corner for an entire playoff series where he blew a 2-0 lead, and just about ran Luka out of town, and has now taken the Pacers to one of the worst records in the NBA in his return to Indiana with players demanding trades to get away from him after his first stint there when he oversaw the malice in the palace. JKidd was the player coach in 2011.

Yeah, that's an awful take. Sorry, man.

Not an argument!

[Guano]

The Charlotte pick could've been a throw-in that helps a trade for a young player who's actually good, like Haliburton.

Now, I don't know to what extent Haliburton's actually available, and maybe Cam will break his own pattern of efficiency and ball out with the Knicks.

But I'm not a fan of trading assets for mediocre players.

I'd rather have packaged the Charlotte pick, Obi plus the Dallas pick for Hali (not sure the Kings take it but it's just a general idea). Then you get a young player who actually helps your team and who can also be traded at a later stage for a star if need be.

I don't know.

sad that youre trying to find every angle you can to sht on this trade and cam because your guy Burks mins are about to be cut or at best he is going to get traded.

I like the trade but if we are being honest Burks has been a better player than Reddish

potential and hope and lies > mid merc

[F N 11]

The Charlotte pick could've been a throw-in that helps a trade for a young player who's actually good, like Haliburton.

Now, I don't know to what extent Haliburton's actually available, and maybe Cam will break his own pattern of efficiency and ball out with the Knicks.

But I'm not a fan of trading assets for mediocre players.

I'd rather have packaged the Charlotte pick, Obi plus the Dallas pick for Hali (not sure the Kings take it but it's just a general idea). Then you get a young player who actually helps your team and who can also be traded at a later stage for a star if need be.

I don't know.

sad that youre trying to find every angle you can to sht on this trade and cam because your guy Burks mins are about to be cut or at best he is going to get traded.

I like the trade but if we are being honest Burks has been a better player than Reddish

I mean Cam has more 30 point games than Burks and shoot higher FG % (40.2%) than Burks (38.8 %) this season. Higher free throw %. Averages more PPG in only 23 mpg as well and is 8 years younger lol.

People want to call Cam trash but brings the same thing Burks and IQ brings while being younger, more upside, and better physical tools.

Cam 38% from 3
IQ 34% from 3
Quit hating and give the man a chance.

[Guano]

i don't know what this will become but you guys will always defending everything at first to the death. those homer instincts kick in so strong. trading grimes, who has barely played much, would have been absolutely horrible but a pick that, at worst, would be around where grimes that was taken is worthless. it's nonsensical.

For me I’m just happy taking a worthwhile shot with that pick with a talented young player with tools. Cause realistically a star trade was never coming. There’s no one out there at the moment available worth trading a bunch of first rounders for.. other than maybe Zion who can maybe be had for a bit of a discount considering his weight/health situation atm

we've made one star trade that was worth it. other than that our first round picks have been used in terrible trades and terrible prospects. we need a star and while cam most likely isn't going to develop into t-mac(this place is insane) i'm cool with them making this trade instead of waiting around for some hypothetical super star trade that we haven't made in 10+ years. or punting it down the line to use - Wingo isn't getting any younger and he deserves to see a good knicks team again.