Knicks Get Reddish per Woj

[robillionaire]

sad that youre trying to find every angle you can to sht on this trade and cam because your guy Burks mins are about to be cut or at best he is going to get traded.

I like the trade but if we are being honest Burks has been a better player than Reddish

I mean Cam has more 30 point games than Burks and shoot higher FG % than Burks this season. More steals and higher free throw %. Averages more PPG in less minutes as well and is 8 years younger lol.

People want to call Cam trash but brings the same thing Burks and Iq brings while being younger and has more upside.

Quit hating and give the man a chance.

I wasn’t “hating” any more than you are hating on Burks who statistically has just been the better player, a better 3pt shooter and better advanced stats Burks BPM is +1.1 and a positive defensive player and Reddish is -1.8 negative in both offense and defense

[Clyde_Style]

What type of music. Assuming it fits any genre.

a medieval song played on a mandolin and using autotune

This is sadly beyond my powers. There's only so much I can do.

A Polka using milk poured on Captain Crunch cereal

[stuporman]

The take that Cam playing or not correlated to Hawks winning or not isn't as clear cut as it seems from the team's record.

He was hurt 4 games before the coach switch and the Hawks improved with that change but he didn't return until the playoffs. This season the whole team has struggled but much of it can be tied to the team not defending well with Trae on the floor and since he's their number one star he's on the floor alot.

We can look at Cam's efficiency or inconsistency and make a case for whether we think he's good or not from that, sure, but it doesn't seem like the Hawks record with or without him is a product of Cam's play or presence on the team.

[3toheadmelo]

word on the street sham has been camping out since 11 pm last night for a limited release of menthol marlboros in case you were wondering where he is

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I like the trade but if we are being honest Burks has been a better player than Reddish

I mean Cam has more 30 point games than Burks and shoot higher FG % than Burks this season. More steals and higher free throw %. Averages more PPG in less minutes as well and is 8 years younger lol.

People want to call Cam trash but brings the same thing Burks and Iq brings while being younger and has more upside.

Quit hating and give the man a chance.

I wasn’t “hating” any more than you are hating on Burks who statistically has just been the better player, a better 3pt shooter and better advanced stats Burks BPM is +1.1 and a positive defensive player and Reddish is -1.8 negative in both offense and defense

Let's see what Thibs can do with him before we compare them defensively, Nate McMillian isn't exactly known as a defensive coach.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

word on the street sham has been camping out since 11 pm last night for a limited release of menthol marlboros in case you were wondering where he is

All the Mitch trade rumors got Sham going through it, heard he's playing song cry on a 24 hour loop.

Watch on YouTube

[Iron Mantis]

sad that youre trying to find every angle you can to sht on this trade and cam because your guy Burks mins are about to be cut or at best he is going to get traded.

I like the trade but if we are being honest Burks has been a better player than Reddish

I mean Cam has more 30 point games than Burks and shoot higher FG % (40.2%) than Burks (38.8 %) this season. Higher free throw %. Averages more PPG in only 23 mpg as well and is 8 years younger lol.

People want to call Cam trash but brings the same thing Burks and IQ brings while being younger, more upside, and better physical tools.

Cam 38% from 3
IQ 34% from 3
Quit hating and give the man a chance.

[F N 11]

All I’m saying is statistically he’s shooting better than Burks and IQ and has better tools. People trying to write him off like he’s a bum must be blind. He’s probably # 3 on this team in all around skills behind Rose and Randle.

[spree2kawhi]

The take that Cam playing correlated to Hawks winning isn't as clear cut as it seems from the team's record.

He was hurt 4 games before the coach switch and the Hawks improved with that change but he didn't return until the playoffs. This season the whole team has struggled but much of it can be tied to the team not defending well with Trae on the floor and since he's their number one star he's on the floor alot.

We can look at Cam's efficiency or inconsistency and make a case for whether we think he's good or not from that, sure, but it doesn't seem like the Hawks record with or without him is a product of Cam's play or presence on the team.

I’m confident he can be a very serviceable starting SF for us between Barrett and Randle for a long time. We need to find a scoring PG now.

[robillionaire]

I mean Cam has more 30 point games than Burks and shoot higher FG % than Burks this season. More steals and higher free throw %. Averages more PPG in less minutes as well and is 8 years younger lol.

People want to call Cam trash but brings the same thing Burks and Iq brings while being younger and has more upside.

Quit hating and give the man a chance.

I wasn’t “hating” any more than you are hating on Burks who statistically has just been the better player, a better 3pt shooter and better advanced stats Burks BPM is +1.1 and a positive defensive player and Reddish is -1.8 negative in both offense and defense

Let's see what Thibs can do with him before we compare them defensively, Nate McMillian isn't exactly known as a defensive coach.

I haven’t really watched him that much. I always thought he was supposed to be a good defensive player because he has a 7’1 wingspan but apparently it’s not the case on the stat sheet and Woj was saying he has to get a lot better on D when discussing the trade. This is pretty concerning to me because he has the tools, so maybe it’s a motor or effort issue or I dunno. Thoughts?

[Guano]

The fact that lots of people are calling this a steal for us is a bit concerning


But the fact that Chanel hates it gives me a lot of hope. Thanks, Chanel.

so cursed he turned around RJ's season and potentially saved his career. at the rate chanel is trashing this trade maybe the tmac comparisons aren't too crazy.

[Maury2423]

Will he be available to play tomorrow? I doubt Thibs plays him because of lack of practice but it would be dope to see him on the bench celebrating while we beat the Hawks @$$

[cgf]

Knicks fans are too easy to please. Any trade any draft pick and it's full blown green arrow level of enthusiasm. You people have no phucking standards.

That owner for the Giants gets it. They have standards. If they're not met everyone can GTFO.

Knicks fans.. any trade will satisfy us daddy Dolan.

Have you met us? We would complain if the team won back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back titles

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I wasn’t “hating” any more than you are hating on Burks who statistically has just been the better player, a better 3pt shooter and better advanced stats Burks BPM is +1.1 and a positive defensive player and Reddish is -1.8 negative in both offense and defense

Let's see what Thibs can do with him before we compare them defensively, Nate McMillian isn't exactly known as a defensive coach.

I haven’t really watched him that much. I always thought he was supposed to be a good defensive player because he has a 7’1 wingspan but apparently it’s not the case on the stat sheet and Woj was saying he has to get a lot better on D when discussing the trade. This is pretty concerning to me because he has the tools, so maybe it’s a motor or effort issue or I dunno. Thoughts?

He's 22 years old, he has shown flashes of being a good defender here and there, just like his offense he has to put everything together. This is a low risk, high reward move, and it's not about him vs Burks today, you have to think we need to develop him now with an eye towards 2-3 years from now. Even if he doesn't become an all-star but we turn him into a 15-18ppg scorer who plays solid defense that is a huge win.

Burks isn't important to the future of this team, so you should never view it as him vs Cam, Cam's development, Grimes development, IQ's development etc is far more important than what Burks gives us.

[cgf]

I wasn’t “hating” any more than you are hating on Burks who statistically has just been the better player, a better 3pt shooter and better advanced stats Burks BPM is +1.1 and a positive defensive player and Reddish is -1.8 negative in both offense and defense

Let's see what Thibs can do with him before we compare them defensively, Nate McMillian isn't exactly known as a defensive coach.

I haven’t really watched him that much. I always thought he was supposed to be a good defensive player because he has a 7’1 wingspan but apparently it’s not the case on the stat sheet and Woj was saying he has to get a lot better on D when discussing the trade. This is pretty concerning to me because he has the tools, so maybe it’s a motor or effort issue or I dunno. Thoughts?

It's a consistency & focus issue. He's not as bad as Kevin was, but he has similar issues tapping into his potential. Hopefully being reunited with RJ & having Thibs on his back can light a fire under his ass.

[prophet_of_rage]

Also, the Hawks are betting on addition by subtraction.

They think they can be better without Reddish's minutes. And they probably will be.

That's a red flag.

I'm pretty confident you are wrong on this, the hawks traded him because they weren't going to sign him long term..they also have higher priced vets making a lot of money that are getting playing time over him to begin with..nothing to do with red flags, but again, as I stated before, the knicks got him for free. if they traded Grimes for him, that would have been a different story

This is it. The Hawks backed themselves in to a corner with Cam with the extension given to Huerter and Collins and still have to decide on Hunter who they’ve made their choice on even tho he’s injury prone. I guess Hunter’s defensive versatility is what swayed them toward choosing him in the long run. There was just too many wings in ATL. Cam slipped thru the crack

Talent doesn't slip througg cracks. You trade it for help in an area of weakness. They didn't view him as high end given what they took for him. They weren't over a barrel.

This is just a minor move increasing our war chest. It's okay but this is the New York 'Hey, I know that name!' reaction thinking this rebuilds Duke (who didn't won) in New York.

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[robillionaire]

Let's see what Thibs can do with him before we compare them defensively, Nate McMillian isn't exactly known as a defensive coach.

I haven’t really watched him that much. I always thought he was supposed to be a good defensive player because he has a 7’1 wingspan but apparently it’s not the case on the stat sheet and Woj was saying he has to get a lot better on D when discussing the trade. This is pretty concerning to me because he has the tools, so maybe it’s a motor or effort issue or I dunno. Thoughts?

He's 22 years old, he has shown flashes of being a good defender here and there, just like his offense he has to put everything together. This is a low risk, high reward move, and it's not about him vs Burks today, you have to think we need to develop him now with an eye towards 2-3 years from now. Even if he doesn't become an all-star but we turn him into a 15-18ppg scorer who plays solid defense that is a huge win.

Burks isn't important to the future of this team, so you should never view it as him vs Cam, Cam's development, Grimes development, IQ's development etc is far more important than what Burks gives us.

Burks might not be an important part of the future but his stats can still be used as a measuring stick to compare other players. Plus Thibs is going to play the players that are most conducive to winning. He doesn’t care about coddling and developing he wants to win now

[DrCoach]

a 22 year old wing, with a great wingspan and ball skills. Not saying he's going to be a star, but there's enormous potential there.

Hes a perfect #3 with #2 and slight chance at #1 potential


I think his upside is more Wiggins than George.

Levert is similar too

[stuporman]

The take that Cam playing correlated to Hawks winning isn't as clear cut as it seems from the team's record.

He was hurt 4 games before the coach switch and the Hawks improved with that change but he didn't return until the playoffs. This season the whole team has struggled but much of it can be tied to the team not defending well with Trae on the floor and since he's their number one star he's on the floor alot.

We can look at Cam's efficiency or inconsistency and make a case for whether we think he's good or not from that, sure, but it doesn't seem like the Hawks record with or without him is a product of Cam's play or presence on the team.

I’m confident he can be a very serviceable starting SF for us between Barrett and Randle for a long time. We need to find a scoring PG now.

I have been talking about the Knicks lack of height and length in the front court for two years so this is a step in the right direction at least. He may not be the cure all for it but running 6-7 and under SF/PFs out there constantly puts the Knicks in a disadvantage trying to defend players 6-8 and up at the forward spots that are found all over the league.

Just look at Clev, Tor, Wash, Mil, Cha and even Atl just in the east who all are loading up on tall and long players that the Knicks have had trouble matching up against. The Knicks have Randle and Obi who are closer to 6-7 than they are to their listed 6-9 and the rest of the guys who play SF are 6-7 and shorter.

This at least gives them a 6-8 and long two way SF to match up with some of the guys in the east. If he can defend his ass off and hit 3s at the clip he's been doing this season that will help the Knicks. Will it make them a playoff team or threat to win a series? Not likely but there's other problems than just that they need to address, one you mentioned.

[Jadoogar]

Hawks board:

Looks a lot like the Knicks board when they got Bargnani