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9/12 on twos, 4/11 on threes.
Finishing looked stronger. No, he’s not a dynamic leaper, but he just looks stronger around the paint.
Finishing looked stronger. No, he’s not a dynamic leaper, but he just looks stronger around the paint.
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Looking back and forward I was just thinking that to me (assuming good health):
Poole's floor is a bench microwave scorer who is occasionally inefficient and occasionally dominant. His peak is CJ McCollum.
Moody looks like he has potential to be a good not great NBA all around starter. A 3-D player should be his floor, an overall positive on offense and defense with decent shooting and passing and team and individual defense is his peak. Iguodala with a more consistent shot and less athleticism.
Kuminga's floor is a defensive beast, his peak is superstar.
Wiseman's floor is a rebounding, defending, dunking big ... JaVale McGee. His peak is Joel Embiid.
The fact that the Warriors have that positive a future and are only down 1 1st round pick and 1 2nd round pick over the next 5 years is frankly pretty amazing.
Imagine them drafting someone like Moussa Diabate or Jeremy Sochan in the next draft then you have a possible starting 5 of under 21 year olds of Poole, Moody, Kuminga, Diabate, Wiseman.
Poole's floor is a bench microwave scorer who is occasionally inefficient and occasionally dominant. His peak is CJ McCollum.
Moody looks like he has potential to be a good not great NBA all around starter. A 3-D player should be his floor, an overall positive on offense and defense with decent shooting and passing and team and individual defense is his peak. Iguodala with a more consistent shot and less athleticism.
Kuminga's floor is a defensive beast, his peak is superstar.
Wiseman's floor is a rebounding, defending, dunking big ... JaVale McGee. His peak is Joel Embiid.
The fact that the Warriors have that positive a future and are only down 1 1st round pick and 1 2nd round pick over the next 5 years is frankly pretty amazing.
Imagine them drafting someone like Moussa Diabate or Jeremy Sochan in the next draft then you have a possible starting 5 of under 21 year olds of Poole, Moody, Kuminga, Diabate, Wiseman.
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Why the **** would you want Moussa Diabate and Wiseman on the court together? LMAO
And FFS Wiseman turns 21 in March. Poole is already 22. At least look this **** up.
And FFS Wiseman turns 21 in March. Poole is already 22. At least look this **** up.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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He doesn’t have to answer that question until after we see Wiseman on the court a couple of times.EvanZ wrote:Why the **** would you want Moussa Diabate and Wiseman on the court together? LMAO
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Swift21 wrote:clyde21 wrote:Mitchell never made sense, from any standpoint, neither at 7 or at 14...we literally just picked up GP2 who does everything Mitchell does and more off the scrap heap
Never understood why so many wanted him. That would have been just as bad as taking Ekpe Udoh at 6.
I remember wanting Mitchell at the time because it looked like quick, young point guards were going to be a huge problem for us after watching Ja eliminate us in the play-in game and Tre single-handedly lead his team to the ECF.
Mitchell looked like he was going to be our solution to this problem especially after watching videos of him giving Cade a hard time when they played each other in college. I also didn't mind his age and thought it was a bonus because it seemed like we we were incapable of developing 19 year olds after seeing how things played out with WIseman. Glad I was wrong though.
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Wcs at least knows the system with dray out fir a prolonged period of time.
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At this point, Warriors are going into this year's playoffs with two undersized centers. Wiseman will not help.
I think that's a mistake. If warriors could get Sabonis for WIggins, Wiseman and Moody...or Looney, Wiseman and Moody...they should do it.
Sabonis is not sexy....but he's an all-star, legit size and he'd help make the offense hum.
Wiggins value will never be higher than it is right now. I'd slide Auto Porter into his starting spot.
I think that's a mistake. If warriors could get Sabonis for WIggins, Wiseman and Moody...or Looney, Wiseman and Moody...they should do it.
Sabonis is not sexy....but he's an all-star, legit size and he'd help make the offense hum.
Wiggins value will never be higher than it is right now. I'd slide Auto Porter into his starting spot.
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You're not getting Sabonis without Kuminga included in the trade and he's the one piece I wouldn't give up.
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Screw Sabonis. We are gambling on Wiseman. We are keeping Kuminga. He is still a dumb rookie now but he will be a star and won't hurt us with Luxury tax for a few years.
Wiseman can fail and we can still win the championship but then everybody had better be healthy and Klay and Poole both have to score.
Is third quarter Warriors surge a thing without Draymond. Let none of us ever underemate Draymond again. The league fans should also notice that the Warriors are not much better than mediocre without Draymond. They can hate Draymond but they should respect him.
Wiseman can fail and we can still win the championship but then everybody had better be healthy and Klay and Poole both have to score.
Is third quarter Warriors surge a thing without Draymond. Let none of us ever underemate Draymond again. The league fans should also notice that the Warriors are not much better than mediocre without Draymond. They can hate Draymond but they should respect him.
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Looney is a better defender than Sabonis. That's mostly what we want out of the position, and he's doing a very good job. We'll see what Wiseman can bring. But I'm totally against ditching the future for a win-now year this year. And since Steph is having a down year and we're still re-integrating Klay and trying to get Draymond's back back, it's even more reckless to get rid of the youth in favor of all or nothing.
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shazam_guy wrote:Looney is a better defender than Sabonis. That's mostly what we want out of the position, and he's doing a very good job. We'll see what Wiseman can bring. But I'm totally against ditching the future for a win-now year this year. And since Steph is having a down year and we're still re-integrating Klay and trying to get Draymond's back back, it's even more reckless to get rid of the youth in favor of all or nothing.
I agree. I love Sabonis and wanted the Warriors to go for him when his value was at it's lowest with OKC. But making a move just to make a move makes no sense. The Warriors have a good TEAM right now with a few weaknesses but they are generally minor and health related.
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ILOVEIT wrote:
Sabonis is not sexy....but he's an all-star, legit size and he'd help make the offense hum.
You want Sabonis and Draymond spacing the floor in crunch time in the Playoffs?
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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What can we get for Klay?
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floppymoose wrote:What can we get for Klay?
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floppymoose wrote:What can we get for Klay?
Not going to lie I would look into trading Klay as well. But who would trade for him.
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nm on trading Klay.
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floppymoose wrote:nm on trading Klay.
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It's always the same people and the same approach. Any trade is better than no trade. Any player we have isn't as good as he should be, and any player on any other team is probably better than what we have. The sky is falling, and falling, and falling...
We're hearing them on Wiggins now, and Klay, and sometimes Draymond. If Wiseman is not immediately the second coming of Kareem, we'll start hearing it about him again -- must trade! We've already had a few people wanting to package up Moody before they even saw what he could do, and I promise you that when he hits an inevitable slump, we'll hear it about Kuminga, too.
I get that this is a GM-oriented board and it's about the franchise as a whole, including personnel changes, but thank Jeeee-zus none of these people will ever be in control of a professional team, especially this one.
We're hearing them on Wiggins now, and Klay, and sometimes Draymond. If Wiseman is not immediately the second coming of Kareem, we'll start hearing it about him again -- must trade! We've already had a few people wanting to package up Moody before they even saw what he could do, and I promise you that when he hits an inevitable slump, we'll hear it about Kuminga, too.
I get that this is a GM-oriented board and it's about the franchise as a whole, including personnel changes, but thank Jeeee-zus none of these people will ever be in control of a professional team, especially this one.
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I really want the Warriors to trade for Scottie Lewis before he starts making 3's in the next year or two.
I'm sure the Hornets are also high on him, but I'm curious what it would take. Maybe we get lucky and they don't have room for him next year?
Maybe trade one of our 2nds and a future 2nd for him?
If nobody with high upside falls to our 1st rounder, maybe even trade our 1st for Lewis and a future 2nd?
I'm sure the Hornets are also high on him, but I'm curious what it would take. Maybe we get lucky and they don't have room for him next year?
Maybe trade one of our 2nds and a future 2nd for him?
If nobody with high upside falls to our 1st rounder, maybe even trade our 1st for Lewis and a future 2nd?
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Quazza wrote:floppymoose wrote:What can we get for Klay?
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