Pascal Siakam - Back or Fools gold?

[Jabroni Lames]

Fool's gold, has never been anything better than a 3rd option on a championship or 2nd option on a treadmill type team. You can forcefeed him the ball and gets state but he is a low IQ player, he is somewhat predictable offensively and doesn't adjust.

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

You have seen walk-ons due to covid come in and light up the stat sheet. On a proper contending team his stats would take a hit, but hey, right now you have to give him the ball.

Give his touches to Barnes for development. If the raps make the playoffs watch how fast he gets shutdown and made an example of.

Do you see walk-ons do this?

Watch on YouTube

Give your head a shake ball boy.

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[dkb965]

Fool's gold, has never been anything better than a 3rd option on a championship or 2nd option on a treadmill type team. You can forcefeed him the ball and gets state but he is a low IQ player, he is somewhat predictable offensively and doesn't adjust.

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

You have seen walk-ons due to covid come in and light up the stat sheet. On a proper contending team his stats would take a hit, but hey, right now you have to give him the ball.

Give his touches to Barnes for development. If the raps make the playoffs watch how fast he gets shutdown and made an example of.

Do you see walk-ons do this?

Watch on YouTube

Give your head a shake ball boy.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=Hoopz

NBA Finals game that was a win and eventual Championship vs regular season game from a scrub lottery team that ended in a loss.

[Son Goku 25]

His passing is what has helped him take the next step. Everything else will just improve with time but he's back to being that 2nd or third option on a real contender.

[Floody100]

28th in PPG
29th in RPG
48th in APG
97th in SPG
77th in BPG
190th in FG%
287th in 3pt%
316th in FT%

He’s a high end roll player & the 3rd best player on a championship team ... which is exactly what he was when the Raptors won the championship.

It’s funny because a lot of us tried to tell the Raptors fan base that the 2019/20 season was going to be his peak & while he was awarded with all-NBA honours & an all star selection he’s nothing more than a borderline all star at his best.

If I’m the Raptors Organisation the only player I’m keeping is Scottie Barnes.
Sell Vanvleet & Siakam right now while their at the peak so you can the most value out of them.

His peak is an all-nba talent. It literally happened so you can’t try and change the narrative now so unless you consider the 2nd and 3rd all-nba teams role players, you’re just wrong.

A healthy Siakam (which we haven’t had since his all-nba season) is easily a top 15-20 guy in the NBA. Not many dudes can put up 20/7/5 and play his level of defence.

Oh we aren’t seriously going to act like that “all-nba” season was fools gold ? That “top 15-20 all-nba guy” was made to look like an average nba player by Jaylen Brown the exact same season he won all-nba honours.
He’s fine in the regular season when opposition teams don’t put as much emphasis on defence but come playoff time when opposition teams do he’s going to struggle again.

[Jabroni Lames]

28th in PPG
29th in RPG
48th in APG
97th in SPG
77th in BPG
190th in FG%
287th in 3pt%
316th in FT%

He’s a high end roll player & the 3rd best player on a championship team ... which is exactly what he was when the Raptors won the championship.

It’s funny because a lot of us tried to tell the Raptors fan base that the 2019/20 season was going to be his peak & while he was awarded with all-NBA honours & an all star selection he’s nothing more than a borderline all star at his best.

If I’m the Raptors Organisation the only player I’m keeping is Scottie Barnes.
Sell Vanvleet & Siakam right now while their at the peak so you can the most value out of them.

His peak is an all-nba talent. It literally happened so you can’t try and change the narrative now so unless you consider the 2nd and 3rd all-nba teams role players, you’re just wrong.

A healthy Siakam (which we haven’t had since his all-nba season) is easily a top 15-20 guy in the NBA. Not many dudes can put up 20/7/5 and play his level of defence.

Oh we aren’t seriously going to act like that “all-nba” season was fools gold ? That “top 15-20 all-nba guy” was made to look like an average nba player by Jaylen Brown the exact same season he won all-nba honours.
He’s fine in the regular season when opposition teams don’t put as much emphasis on defence but come playoff time when opposition teams do he’s going to struggle again.

That All-NBA season was kind of fool's gold. KD, PG & Embiid were all injured that year, which would have normally bumped Siakam out of the front court, even for 3rd team.

[LegendOfSalmons]

Fool's gold, has never been anything better than a 3rd option on a championship or 2nd option on a treadmill type team. You can forcefeed him the ball and gets state but he is a low IQ player, he is somewhat predictable offensively and doesn't adjust.

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

You have seen walk-ons due to covid come in and light up the stat sheet. On a proper contending team his stats would take a hit, but hey, right now you have to give him the ball.

Give his touches to Barnes for development. If the raps make the playoffs watch how fast he gets shutdown and made an example of.

Do you see walk-ons do this?

Watch on YouTube

Give your head a shake ball boy.

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=Hoopz

What a poor response.

[wegotthabeet]

28th in PPG
29th in RPG
48th in APG
97th in SPG
77th in BPG
190th in FG%
287th in 3pt%
316th in FT%

He’s a high end roll player & the 3rd best player on a championship team ... which is exactly what he was when the Raptors won the championship.

It’s funny because a lot of us tried to tell the Raptors fan base that the 2019/20 season was going to be his peak & while he was awarded with all-NBA honours & an all star selection he’s nothing more than a borderline all star at his best.

If I’m the Raptors Organisation the only player I’m keeping is Scottie Barnes.
Sell Vanvleet & Siakam right now while their at the peak so you can the most value out of them.

His peak is an all-nba talent. It literally happened so you can’t try and change the narrative now so unless you consider the 2nd and 3rd all-nba teams role players, you’re just wrong.

A healthy Siakam (which we haven’t had since his all-nba season) is easily a top 15-20 guy in the NBA. Not many dudes can put up 20/7/5 and play his level of defence.

Oh we aren’t seriously going to act like that “all-nba” season was fools gold ? That “top 15-20 all-nba guy” was made to look like an average nba player by Jaylen Brown the exact same season he won all-nba honours.
He’s fine in the regular season when opposition teams don’t put as much emphasis on defence but come playoff time when opposition teams do he’s going to struggle again.

He's a great 3rd option, not versatile enough to be a 1st. You can't build an offence around him.

A Tatum - Brown - Siakam core would be great though wouldn't it?

[Ell Curry]

The biggest difference to me watching him every night is that his ability to bend and change angles when he drives is back. His defense has gone from about 4th or 5th team all-nba to average, though. He can probably get back up to 34 or 35 percent from 3 though even though it doesn't look good.

He's back to being one of the 40-50 best guys around, not the top 20-25 guy he was his best season. Not really sure what else to say.

[Jabroni Lames]

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What a poor response.

A walk-on dropped 30 pts. That's a perfect response.

[Floody100]

His peak is an all-nba talent. It literally happened so you can’t try and change the narrative now so unless you consider the 2nd and 3rd all-nba teams role players, you’re just wrong.

A healthy Siakam (which we haven’t had since his all-nba season) is easily a top 15-20 guy in the NBA. Not many dudes can put up 20/7/5 and play his level of defence.

Oh we aren’t seriously going to act like that “all-nba” season was fools gold ? That “top 15-20 all-nba guy” was made to look like an average nba player by Jaylen Brown the exact same season he won all-nba honours.
He’s fine in the regular season when opposition teams don’t put as much emphasis on defence but come playoff time when opposition teams do he’s going to struggle again.

He's a great 3rd option, not versatile enough to be a 1st. You can't build an offence around him.

A Tatum - Brown - Siakam core would be great though wouldn't it?

It would be awesome. The spacing for the three of them would make life so much easier. With the improvement in Siakam’s passing it would let Jaylen play a similar role to Klay Thompson which is the role he should be playing for us.

[wegotthabeet]

Oh we aren’t seriously going to act like that “all-nba” season was fools gold ? That “top 15-20 all-nba guy” was made to look like an average nba player by Jaylen Brown the exact same season he won all-nba honours.
He’s fine in the regular season when opposition teams don’t put as much emphasis on defence but come playoff time when opposition teams do he’s going to struggle again.

He's a great 3rd option, not versatile enough to be a 1st. You can't build an offence around him.

A Tatum - Brown - Siakam core would be great though wouldn't it?

It would be awesome. The spacing for the three of them would make life so much easier. With the improvement in Siakam’s passing it would let Jaylen play a similar role to Klay Thompson which is the role he should be playing for us.

Exactly and that's the type of situation Siakam should be in as well.

[TheSniper007]

Fool's gold, has never been anything better than a 3rd option on a championship or 2nd option on a treadmill type team. You can forcefeed him the ball and gets state but he is a low IQ player, he is somewhat predictable offensively and doesn't adjust.

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

You have seen walk-ons due to covid come in and light up the stat sheet. On a proper contending team his stats would take a hit, but hey, right now you have to give him the ball.

Give his touches to Barnes for development. If the raps make the playoffs watch how fast he gets shutdown and made an example of.

Do you see walk-ons do this?

Watch on YouTube

Give your head a shake ball boy.

What does posting 1 video prove? Pascal is not a #1 or #2 option on a team with championship aspirations. His versatility is good, but he isn't great at anything and his Bball IQ is low, add in the last few seasons he has acted like a Diva at times and has played well below his salary level.

It's laughable including names like Jokic / Giannis in the same post as him.

[TheSniper007]

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Give your head a shake ball boy.

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What a poor response.

Right, add in some of the Nets guys that also went for big stat games...

[TheSniper007]

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

But ... they are. It's just stats.

It speaks to Pascal's versatility.

Someone has to get the stats, if you have other 3rd level guys the same usage and touches he had they would have similar results. On a real team, his stats would drop off. He is versatile but he isn't great at anything, and he isn't good enough at all things to make a big difference imo. He will get his fantasy stats, but that doesn't translate into him being anywhere close to an elite player.

[Duffman100]

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

But ... they are. It's just stats.

It speaks to Pascal's versatility.

Someone has to get the stats, if you have other 3rd level guys the same usage and touches he had they would have similar results. On a real team, his stats would drop off. He is versatile but he isn't great at anything, and he isn't good enough at all things to make a big difference imo. He will get his fantasy stats, but that doesn't translate into him being anywhere close to an elite player.

By that logic, shouldn't we see a whole bunch of other players that fall into that criteria.

Siakam is 44th in usage rate yet he's one of only 5 guys that fall into the 20, 8, 4 category.

If 'someone has to get the stats', then why aren't more people 'getting the stats'?

[phanman]

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

But ... they are. It's just stats.

It speaks to Pascal's versatility.

Someone has to get the stats, if you have other 3rd level guys the same usage and touches he had they would have similar results. On a real team, his stats would drop off. He is versatile but he isn't great at anything, and he isn't good enough at all things to make a big difference imo. He will get his fantasy stats, but that doesn't translate into him being anywhere close to an elite player.

He put up 17/7/3 on our championship team in just his 3rd season in the league on just 11.8FGA. Not to far off from the 20/8/4 now.

Now in his 6th season with improvements that have been made, he'd easily be able to replicate these stats on a team with a real #1 option.

[Parataxis]

On a proper contending team his stats would take a hit, but hey, right now you have to give him the ball.

Nah, on a 'proper contending team' many of his stats would be better. He'd be more efficient, have a higher TS, and probably grab more assists.

He'd be more able to work that efficiency when he wasn't a primary focus of the opposing side.

[TheLand13]

Wiggins+Poole for Siakam? That's a lot of scoring and both players are younger than Siakam.

I don't think GS would do this simply because the current team is doing well, but if I were gunning for Siakam that would likely be my top offer as a GM.

You're not getting Siakam lol

[Tripod]

Fool's gold, has never been anything better than a 3rd option on a championship or 2nd option on a treadmill type team. You can forcefeed him the ball and gets state but he is a low IQ player, he is somewhat predictable offensively and doesn't adjust.

For everyone saying is in the one of the only players that X this and X that and putting him in the same sentence as Durant and Jokic needs to give their head a shake.

You have seen walk-ons due to covid come in and light up the stat sheet. On a proper contending team his stats would take a hit, but hey, right now you have to give him the ball.

Give his touches to Barnes for development. If the raps make the playoffs watch how fast he gets shutdown and made an example of.

Do you see walk-ons do this?

Watch on YouTube

Give your head a shake ball boy.

What does posting 1 video prove? Pascal is not a #1 or #2 option on a team with championship aspirations. His versatility is good, but he isn't great at anything and his Bball IQ is low, add in the last few seasons he has acted like a Diva at times and has played well below his salary level.

It's laughable including names like Jokic / Giannis in the same post as him.

A #1, no. A #2....absolutely. he was already the #2 scoring guy on a Championship winning team and he us better now, than then.

No he is not Jokic or Giannis. He is just producing in a group that includes them. Ignore it if you want but the stats don't lie.

[vxmike]

Sell high. Do you really want to pay Pascal his third contract? That’ll be a franchise killer when they’ll have other guys to extend.