VDT wrote:Russell is a low level volume scorer with crap efficiency and no defense. No good team wants that archetype unless he comes off the bench on a limited role. That's all he can be on a good team. Again this is why all his previous teams moved him as soon as they tried to field a good team, and i mean all 3 of his previous teams. Which is why he moves from one bad team to other padding his stats on his way to a big contract. He is a completely negative contract and no one wants him.
Simmons role was not to score on the Sixers and the team's playstyle didnt fit him at all. On the right team he can easily be a close to 20/8/8 player with excellent defense, which is clearly star level impact. And he can do it that on good teams also, which makes him actually useful, unlike Russell.
If Russell is a low level scorer, what does that make Simmons? Simmons never even scored over 17 ppg, why would be suddenly become a 20 ppg scorer on another team? Was he lacking touches on the Sixers or something?
You just keep saying "you put the right team around Simmons and he's a star". You could say that for Russell too. You put the right team around him and he will be an All-Star again. Russell hasn't had the luxury of playing with a top 5 player like Simmons has had. Be consistent with your arguments, stop putting pumping up Simmons by putting him in hypothetical scenarios and then trashing everyone else.
So what if other teams moved on from Russell? The Nets traded him so they could get Kyrie and Durant. The Warriors got Wiggins and Kuminga for him. If anything it should show you how much Russell is really worth.
If your argument is about leverage say it and dont talk about "fair" trades. Again though you are completely lost. For one Simmons doesnt have any mental issues, he just doesnt want to play for the Sixers because he doesnt think it helps his career at this point. Simmon's value also doesnt change whether he plays or not. He is young and everyone know what he can do. I am pretty sure every GM has an opinion of Simmon's value as a player and that hasnt changed over the last months he is off the court. What changes all the time is the potential trade value, how much you could potentially get by trading him. This has dropped since his trade request became known but this is something that easily changes with time. If another team is forced to make a trade then Sixers could be able to get an actual fair trade. And this is what Morey is trying to do. For the Sixers a bad trade is worse than no trade so they are waiting until other teams are also forced to make a trade.
I mean Simmons clearly has mental issues. It's not just him sitting out, it's him not being able to take a three and or make a free throw. Once again, just you being delusional.
It's hilarious that you make assumptions like "Simmons value hasn't dropped" with zero reasoning. Why would a player who is a malcontent and a choker in the playoffs still be judged on his regular season play from a year ago? Do you NBA GMs have dementia or something? Why would a GM trade for Simmons knowing that he could pull this crap on them in the future?
Why would any team be "forced" to trade for Simmons when he barely improves his own team? Sixers were #1 in the East without him this season before Joel got injured, so why would anyone see Simmons as being their franchise's saviour? Use your brain man.
You are overrating both Beal and Lillard here. Lillard will miss this season probably. By the next playoffs he will be almost 33 as a diminutive scoring first pg getting an absurd amount of money. He doesnt have much value really, i would probably consider his contract a negative right now. Beal is an expiring and we are talking about a player that hasnt done much, other than score a lot of points on bad teams. He is overrated as a player and as an expiring contract his value is also not that great, especially if he doesnt want to stay with the Wizards.
Yeah the issue is me overrating future HOFer Damian Lillard and not you overrating two-time All-Star Simmons lol. Good one.
Dude, it's not about being biased. If the Sixers fans genuinely thought that Morey was hurting the team with what he is doing they would be up in arms. The fact that no one complains, even here on the forums, should tell you that what Morey is doing makes sense, even if you dont like it for whatever reason.
You think Sixers fans not complaining about their team is somehow proof that Morey is doing just fine? Your arguments are just getting lamer.
Again, you are off the mark. People argue that Morey needs to make a trade because Embiid is injury prone and no one knows how long he will be reasonably healthy and play at this level. Well, if that's the case then there is a pretty good chance that Sixers' future picks will be valuable. Again, people blaming Morey cant even form a coherent argument and just spam their nonsensical "arguments" on this forum. I am pretty sure most people here blaming Morey just want to see the Sixers fail and are annoyed that Morey refuses to make a bad trade.
Embiid being injury-prone is a fear that he might miss games, not that his abilities are suddenly going to decline. He is leading his team to a top 5 record in the East despite not having Simmons AND missing a bunch of games. Why would you just assume those picks are going to be valuable, especially if they are traded for another superstar like Lillard? You think the Blazers would rather trade for picks that MIGHT be valuable, or trade Lillard for picks that actually will be valuable?
