god shammgod wrote:nedleeds wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Holes in theory: Knicks could have traded 2022 pick for some 2023 pick right now. At the deadline. In the offseason. During the draft.
This is my main problem with this trade. It's not even about Reddish. We don't have minutes to even play this guy unless we just never play Obi and Grimes. Even worse if Rose comes back.
iq
fournier
rj
burks
randle
mitch
rose
noel
obi
grimes
that's 10 ... Thibs plays like 7. It also assumes Kemba is done.
We also just could have used this pick to consolidate and move up. The Dallas 2023 pick (~20s next year assuming Luka is alive), our pick (13) and the Charlotte pick (21) could become like 8 this year.
We will get pressure to extend Cam Reddish based off like probably ~20 games vs. fake covid opponents. Then we get a year with him and have to deal with him wanting some insane extension along with RJ.
A 1st rounder this year, let's say 8 ... is cost controlled for 3+ years.
yeah, it seems there's little chance they're gonna give cam enough minutes to try to develop him properly. which makes you wonder why they bothered.
It's still all arguing around the periphery and we don't know the full thought process (ok, if any, lolz) that went into this.
I cover the pick probably conveying sooner than later might have motivated them. In part. They might also like trying out Cam in a kind of win/win that may pay big. Either way, the value of all these possibilities - in and of themselves - is about the same - 2022 pick vs some 2024 pick vs Cam etc.
Yes, I get it removes an asset that could be put into some theoretical trade. I'd assume all this was brought up and the consensus tilted towards this deal, which retained enough flexibility for the bigger picture, while yes, sacrificing some potential theoretical options.
I'm not defending the trade, just what I think prompted it.
Also, other theory:
They were thinking about the trade for a bit, as Cam was known to be on the block, and Dolan pressed them to get the trade done so it removed the Randle vs Fans drama from the press.
Sure as sh*t quieted all that down. To include on here.
Oh. And it's BS Thibs plays 7. Come on.
His rotations have been something like - and PG is hard, because Kemba and Rose have (SHOCKINGLY!) missed so much time:
Kemba/Burks/Rose (pick 2)
Fourskinier/IQ
RJ/Burks (Grimes here when Burks is PG)
Randle/Super small serving of Obi
Mitch/Taj or Sims or Noel
It's 10. Or 9, with a dash of Obi.