ImageImageImageImageImage

Tank World Order (7.0)

Moderators: DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX, 7 Footer, Morris_Shatford

What do you think is ideal for this Raptors team?

Add another lottery prospect with star potential to the team.
46
46%
Team is great already, make a push for the playoffs even if it’s the play-in.
34
34%
I don’t know currently, going to wait and see.
20
20%
 
Total votes: 100

tdotrep2
RealGM
Posts: 25,323
And1: 26,494
Joined: May 21, 2011
 

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#761 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:55 pm

DelAbbot wrote:People tell me FVV's game is not based on athleticism so he will age well.
tdotrep2 wrote:freds getting 10m a year more than what hes on on. and he'll be 30

regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years
Los_29
RealGM
Posts: 15,059
And1: 13,683
Joined: Apr 10, 2021

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#762 » by Los_29 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:57 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:People tell me FVV's game is not based on athleticism so he will age well.
tdotrep2 wrote:freds getting 10m a year more than what hes on on. and he'll be 30

regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years


Why?
Ref_from_hell
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,778
And1: 6,712
Joined: Mar 13, 2021

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#763 » by Ref_from_hell » Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:58 pm

Coco Costanza wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:This is probably the toughest remaining stretch of the season.


March might also be a fairly tough stretch

Suns
Nuggets
Lakers
Clippers
Lakers
Sixers
Bulls
Cavs


The Lakers are not very good and the Clippers may end up falling even further down. Those teams don't scare me in the least. Nuggets are pretty average this year. Sixers are decent. The only team that really scares me in that bunch is Phoenix and we put up a pretty good fight against them. Cavs and bulls will also be good tests
DelAbbot
RealGM
Posts: 14,974
And1: 21,494
Joined: May 22, 2019
   

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#764 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:00 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:People tell me FVV's game is not based on athleticism so he will age well.
tdotrep2 wrote:freds getting 10m a year more than what hes on on. and he'll be 30

regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years
Been seeing posts about 2024
Siakam max
FVV 32M - max
OG 25M - max
GTJ 25M

That's at least 120M for 4 players and we still have Barnes to max
tdotrep2
RealGM
Posts: 25,323
And1: 26,494
Joined: May 21, 2011
 

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#765 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:03 pm

Los_29 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:People tell me FVV's game is not based on athleticism so he will age well.

regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years


Why?

look at dels post below
User avatar
Psubs
RealGM
Posts: 20,742
And1: 11,863
Joined: Nov 20, 2004
Location: Toronto

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#766 » by Psubs » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:07 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:People tell me FVV's game is not based on athleticism so he will age well.
tdotrep2 wrote:freds getting 10m a year more than what hes on on. and he'll be 30

regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years


In a few years the new TV deal kicks in and the cap will go up A LOT.
Image
KL78192020
RealGM
Posts: 13,833
And1: 14,769
Joined: Apr 19, 2009

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#767 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:07 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years


Why?

look at dels post below


he doesn't understand how the cap works or even what it is.
Los_29
RealGM
Posts: 15,059
And1: 13,683
Joined: Apr 10, 2021

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#768 » by Los_29 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:12 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:regardless, we will be in cap hell in a few years


Why?

look at dels post below


I did and that's not accurate.
KL78192020
RealGM
Posts: 13,833
And1: 14,769
Joined: Apr 19, 2009

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#769 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:12 pm

VanWest82 wrote:Fred is not getting the max lol. You guys are literally inventing reasons to hate on players.


Why wouldn't he get the max? He's playing at an all star level if Siakam can get a max why can't FVV in a career year?
Los_29
RealGM
Posts: 15,059
And1: 13,683
Joined: Apr 10, 2021

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#770 » by Los_29 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:28 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Fred is not getting the max lol. You guys are literally inventing reasons to hate on players.


Why wouldn't he get the max? He's playing at an all star level if Siakam can get a max why can't FVV in a career year?


Pascal made the all-star team and an all-NBA team. Fred hasn't. If Fred can manage to do both of those then a max contract is not only possible but well deserved considering you have to be among the best players in the league to be named to an all-NBA team. It's a very impressive list.
KL78192020
RealGM
Posts: 13,833
And1: 14,769
Joined: Apr 19, 2009

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#771 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:31 pm

Los_29 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Fred is not getting the max lol. You guys are literally inventing reasons to hate on players.


Why wouldn't he get the max? He's playing at an all star level if Siakam can get a max why can't FVV in a career year?


Pascal made the all-star team and an all-NBA team. Fred hasn't. If Fred can manage to do both of those then a max contract is not only possible but well deserved considering you have to be among the best players in the league to be named to an all-NBA team. It's a very impressive list.


Yea Freds been great for this team! I think hes more than capable of leading them deep into the playoffs!
DelAbbot
RealGM
Posts: 14,974
And1: 21,494
Joined: May 22, 2019
   

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#772 » by DelAbbot » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:12 pm

Honest question? When is the last time we had a real win and a real loss?
User avatar
720
RealGM
Posts: 33,060
And1: 67,650
Joined: Nov 01, 2012
Location: Malton
     

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#773 » by 720 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:24 pm

DelAbbot wrote:Honest question? When is the last time we had a real win and a real loss?

All losses are real, a lot of the wins are fake.
Image
Image
VanWest82
RealGM
Posts: 19,467
And1: 18,028
Joined: Dec 05, 2008

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#774 » by VanWest82 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:31 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Fred is not getting the max lol. You guys are literally inventing reasons to hate on players.


Why wouldn't he get the max? He's playing at an all star level if Siakam can get a max why can't FVV in a career year?

Because he's 5'11, unathletic, and went undrafted. Fred's always going to be undervalued unless he leads us to the Finals or something.

Siakam was a 6'9 uber athlete coming off MIP and a chip, and it was also only a 25% max. Fred will be eligible for 30%.
User avatar
Coco Costanza
Analyst
Posts: 3,620
And1: 6,585
Joined: Jan 13, 2018
   

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#775 » by Coco Costanza » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:38 pm

Ref_from_hell wrote:
Coco Costanza wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:This is probably the toughest remaining stretch of the season.


March might also be a fairly tough stretch

Suns
Nuggets
Lakers
Clippers
Lakers
Sixers
Bulls
Cavs


The Lakers are not very good and the Clippers may end up falling even further down. Those teams don't scare me in the least. Nuggets are pretty average this year. Sixers are decent. The only team that really scares me in that bunch is Phoenix and we put up a pretty good fight against them. Cavs and bulls will also be good tests


I dunno, I think if we can lose to the Pistons, we can lose to the Lakers, particularly when they might have things figured out by then. My biggest concern, though, is that Fred and Pascal will be running out of steam carrying this team because we have no reliable bench players. Even still, all of those teams save maybe the Cavs should be able to beat us.
Antinomy wrote:Bucks are going to win the next 2 games (convincingly). This place is gonna be a wasteland :lol:

In the words of Charles Barkley: I Guar-RUN-tee.

You are all welcome to sig me.
KL78192020
RealGM
Posts: 13,833
And1: 14,769
Joined: Apr 19, 2009

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#776 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:47 pm

VanWest82 wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Fred is not getting the max lol. You guys are literally inventing reasons to hate on players.


Why wouldn't he get the max? He's playing at an all star level if Siakam can get a max why can't FVV in a career year?

Because he's 5'11, unathletic, and went undrafted. Fred's always going to be undervalued unless he leads us to the Finals or something.

Siakam was a 6'9 uber athlete coming off MIP and a chip, and it was also only a 25% max. Fred will be eligible for 30%.


I honestly think he's worth the supermax. He can easily lead this team to the finals if things fall into place.
User avatar
720
RealGM
Posts: 33,060
And1: 67,650
Joined: Nov 01, 2012
Location: Malton
     

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#777 » by 720 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:55 am

Happy for Siakam because he balled out but that was a fake win with no Jrue Holiday and Lopez. :nonono:
Image
Image
DelAbbot
RealGM
Posts: 14,974
And1: 21,494
Joined: May 22, 2019
   

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#778 » by DelAbbot » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:56 am

parking the tank for tonight, get them next game
KL78192020
RealGM
Posts: 13,833
And1: 14,769
Joined: Apr 19, 2009

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#779 » by KL78192020 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:56 am

racking up those fake wins daily!
DelAbbot
RealGM
Posts: 14,974
And1: 21,494
Joined: May 22, 2019
   

Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#780 » by DelAbbot » Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:58 am

KL78192020 wrote:racking up those fake wins daily!


well, Siakam closed out as a true max player, so there is a positive.

Return to Toronto Raptors