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Tank World Order (7.0)

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What do you think is ideal for this Raptors team?

Add another lottery prospect with star potential to the team.
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Team is great already, make a push for the playoffs even if it’s the play-in.
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I don’t know currently, going to wait and see.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1041 » by 720 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:24 pm

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Nah.

He is a 2 guard in a point god's body.

Great shooter, great defender. He ain't a playmaker and there is nothing wrong with that. Does he evolve into a playmaker at some point?

I dunno.


He's not a max player. you need to be dynamic as a max guy in this league and fred is very one-dimensional. 25 mil per year sure, but he's going to command way more than that moving forward and that makes him a trap IMO. You can't have the team rely on one guy a night, and expect them to find a solution the next when that guy is rendered into a role player.

I'm not convinced he can become a much better playmaker either. You need to be able to take advantage of mismatches in this league to generate opportunities for others.


How many teams say "oh you're scoring too much and too well, you're becoming too valuable, would you kindly slow things down?"

They don’t, they hitch their wagon to said fool’s gold player and limit their potential. Masai is smart though so I’m sure he’ll figure out a solution.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1042 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:28 pm

720 wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
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He's not a max player. you need to be dynamic as a max guy in this league and fred is very one-dimensional. 25 mil per year sure, but he's going to command way more than that moving forward and that makes him a trap IMO. You can't have the team rely on one guy a night, and expect them to find a solution the next when that guy is rendered into a role player.

I'm not convinced he can become a much better playmaker either. You need to be able to take advantage of mismatches in this league to generate opportunities for others.


How many teams say "oh you're scoring too much and too well, you're becoming too valuable, would you kindly slow things down?"

They don’t, they hitch their wagon to said fool’s gold player and limit their potential. Masai is smart though so I’m sure he’ll figure out a solution.


I'm not. It will be interesting to see though.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1043 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:49 pm

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bballsparkin wrote:^^I don't know who that is. But I like the length! He screems Raptor lol


There is 0% we can get him. He is Victor Wembanyama who is ranked as #1 in a very deep 2023 draft. He is basically Rudy Gobert with a jump shot.


We be tanking tho


says who?
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1044 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:51 pm

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There is 0% we can get him. He is Victor Wembanyama who is ranked as #1 in a very deep 2023 draft. He is basically Rudy Gobert with a jump shot.


We be tanking tho


says who?


Just like when i had inside info on the kawhi/derozan trade, I do not reveal my sources. :o :lol: :wink:
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1045 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
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We be tanking tho


says who?


Just like when i had inside info on the kawhi/derozan trade, I do not reveal my sources. :o :lol: :wink:


interesting you share the same inside source as Pooh Jeter

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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1046 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:15 pm

What if I told you....Pooh Jeter IS MY SOURCE. Whenever there's talent stacked in the top three of a draft there's an opportunity for a delabbot stealth tank. You just need to believe.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1047 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:18 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:What if I told you....Pooh Jeter IS MY SOURCE. Whenever there's talent stacked in the top three of a draft there's an opportunity for a delabbot stealth tank. You just need to believe.


I think you forgot to take your pills

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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1048 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:54 pm

Which pill is "**** everything, lets blow it up!"
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1049 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:59 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Which pill is "**** everything, lets blow it up!"


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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1050 » by Pooh_Jeter » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:04 pm

The tank is over guys I hate to say it. This 7 man rotation playing multiple players 40+ minutes is going to carry the Raptors into a top 4 seed and potentially a championship. I cant really even see any potential obstacles.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1051 » by Los_29 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:08 pm

Would tWo be happy if Scottie developed into the player that Pascal is right now?
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1052 » by Ell Curry » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:19 pm

Pooh_Jeter wrote:The tank is over guys I hate to say it. This 7 man rotation playing multiple players 40+ minutes is going to carry the Raptors into a top 4 seed and potentially a championship. I cant really even see any potential obstacles.


Same as every other team basically, even 10 games missed by Fred, Siakam, Trent or OG and we have no shot at top 4.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1053 » by Los_29 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:36 pm

The funny part is with a bench and some consistency in our starting lineup we'd be sniffing the top 4 this year.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1054 » by DelAbbot » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:54 pm

Pooh_Jeter wrote:The tank is over guys I hate to say it. This 7 man rotation playing multiple players 40+ minutes is going to carry the Raptors into a top 4 seed and potentially a championship. I cant really even see any potential obstacles.


Damn. GreatWhiteStiff you have converted a prominent member of TWO to team treadmill. SMH
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1055 » by Psubs » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:57 pm

The top 6 in the East look the softest as ever with 1-6 so close. Almost any team can make the Finals.

In the West, GS, Phoenix or the Lakers will probably represent the West.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1056 » by Ell Curry » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:53 am

Los_29 wrote:The funny part is with a bench and some consistency in our starting lineup we'd be sniffing the top 4 this year.


It's heartening when you dive into the data and it suggests that if Banton/Yuta/Svi's minutes were going to someone in the like Burks/Kennard/Konchar/Gary Harris bracket of alright wings we'd be much better, and Masai can probably draft that guy next year or find him with the MLE.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1057 » by Madhouse » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:13 am

Los_29 wrote:Would tWo be happy if Scottie developed into the player that Pascal is right now?


Not really.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1058 » by sbsat » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:10 pm

Los_29 wrote:Would tWo be happy if Scottie developed into the player that Pascal is right now?


If he does not turn into kawhi the whole premise of tanking falls apart. Thats the slim margin of success with tanking. Thats why some bozos want scotty to run the point, shoot 30 times a game and defend the oppositions best player. They want to will him into a superstar at an expedited pace.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1059 » by Yeezus_ » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:36 pm

sbsat wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Would tWo be happy if Scottie developed into the player that Pascal is right now?


If he does not turn into kawhi the whole premise of tanking falls apart. Thats the slim margin of success with tanking. Thats why some bozos want scotty to run the point, shoot 30 times a game and defend the oppositions best player. They want to will him into a superstar at an expedited pace.

This is so accurate :lol:
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1060 » by Los_29 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:55 pm

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Los_29 wrote:Would tWo be happy if Scottie developed into the player that Pascal is right now?


Not really.


Exactly. tWo is setting Scottie up for failure. Pascal was an All-NBA player who is averaging 21/8/5 on like 49% from the field.

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