[BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer

[meekrab]

Is there a realistic scenario where Harden can actually leave? Nets wont get equal value and have invested too much to sign and trade him. There are no realistic teams with cap space unless Harden wants to play for the Pistons?

Spurs can make max cap room, but they kind of suck and aren't exactly a Harden-compatible culture.

[Wolveswin]

Davis + Westbrook

FOR

Harden + Irving

Who says no?

You're joking right?!

Nets have the Lakers number blocked before they finish saying Westbrook.

You will need to try and defend that position. Not only rules on RGM to do so, but I am interested how you might defend such a stance.

Davis is arguably the best player in deal but NOT arguably is the highest valued player in the deal. He is locked in and youngest of the group.

Harden and Irving are flight risks for Nets (keeping and getting nothing) and Lakers (acquiring just to bolt). Irving can only play in 1/2 of his games.

Westbrook gets banged on RGM, but he is still an elite talent. If your stance you failed make is because KD won’t want Westbrook back — find a 3rd team. Westbrook on a fitting roster is still an elite NBA player.

[dhsilv2]

Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

Harden not signing an extension is fueling these rumors more so than anything else.

[TheHartBreakKid]

If there is any truth to this, it's hard to see why some form of Simmons for Harden trade wouldn't happen before the deadline. The summer makes no sense.

We will shortly know if this is Morey/ or fake bs. Literally almost no reason for any party to not make a trade happen now if Harden is even uncertain about his future.

why

Why would BK risk losing Harden in free agency IF he is hesitant about staying? If they think Harden is iffy about resigning (huge if), I don't think they'll bet on their questionable playoff chances to convince him to stay. Why would the Sixers wait around until summer and tank this offseason and waste a year of prime Embiid. Sixers don't benefit for waiting until the summer...they can't sign Harden the cap and would basically throw away the rest of this year if they don't trade Simmons.

Obviously Harden has nothing if he does want out and this goes to the offseason. He is still in a good situation to compete this playoffs, and can either test free agency or force a trade in the offseason to his preferred destination. However, IF, his preferred destination is Philly, I don't think he would mind an early trade either considering the huge question mark that is Kyrie playing home games. Philly arguably gives him a better/equal chance to compete this year.



Obviously, there are some huge ifs here which I'm hypothetically basing my point on, but IF Harden is really uncertain, and IF Philly is his preferred destination, it would be in the best interest of both Philly and BK to make the trade at this deadline. I'm simply saying that if a such trade was to happen, it would make a lot more sense for it to happen at the deadline vs the summer. Of course the summer would still be a possibility IF the nets roll the dice even if there is truth to the Harden rumors, but

[ForeverTFC]

This has been the case all season, so not sure this is "fresh" reporting.

Harden wants his usage, that part has always been clear. He also wants to get paid. The Nets, on their part, are wary of the max extension. If the Nets make the finals this year, I see the Nets re-upping Harden. If not, I would say there is open willingness from both parties to move on at the right price.

Simmons and picks for Harden in the summer is a real possibility. Though it would likely be a maxed out James Harden.

[Alatan]

Is there a realistic scenario where Harden can actually leave? Nets wont get equal value and have invested too much to sign and trade him. There are no realistic teams with cap space unless Harden wants to play for the Pistons?

Of course it’s not realistic. Just think for a second. Just look at the teams with capspace next summer. Eliminate the teams that are already hard capped. Eliminate the teams where a sign and trade would hard cap them. Then realize in a sign and trade the Nets would have to take more salary back than what’s going out if they’re dealing with a team that’s hard capped.

Now let’s go back to the teams with enough cap space to sign Harden:
-Orlando
-Detroit
-San Antonio

Unless he really likes the strip clubs and food in these cities this rumour is absolute bull

What about teams that can clear cap by trading for expiring contracts at the deadline?

[timO]

simmons for S&T harden

[wegotthabeet]

Unprotected Nets picks

Simmons resigned already.

FTFY

[FrodoFraggins]

I wonder if he's willing to stay if they somehow trade Kyrie instead.

[Larry_Russell]

Brooklyn needs to send Kyrie packing and that will greatly increase the odds of Keeping Harden.

Not sure who wants Kyrie right now, but someone value is better than none

[DusterBuster]

Simmons for Harden S&T seems to be Morey's last best chance to get the type of player he wants in return for Simmons. If Harden stays in Brooklyn or signs with another team, then he's going to be pretty SOL and his asking price will have to come down if he doesn't want a repeat of this season next year.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

Harden not signing an extension is fueling these rumors more so than anything else.

Harden could get more money by waiting. It would make no sense for him to sign the extension.

[dhsilv2]

Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

Harden not signing an extension is fueling these rumors more so than anything else.

Harden could get more money by waiting. It would make no sense for him to sign the extension.

Is the cap coming up after this year or next? I dunno at his age, I'd assume 4 years at 50 a year would be pretty smart/safe but I don't know when the next tv deal is coming up.

[mademan]

Everyone keeps saying philly, but it would be difficult money wise. Not impossible, but not easy at all. Harden embiid Harris make like 110 mill between them;can u get 10-12 more players for 30 mill? If u keep curry that’s 20ish mill for 9-11 players

You’d have to move Tobias to free up some room under the hard cap and that’s not that easy

[dhsilv2]

Everyone keeps saying philly, but it would be difficult money wise. Not impossible, but not easy at all. Harden embiid Harris make like 110 mill between them;can u get 10-12 more players for 30 mill? If u keep curry that’s 20ish mill for 9-11 players

You’d have to move Tobias to free up some room under the hard cap and that’s not that easy

2024 is when the tv deal renews so I assume they expect a large spike in the cap.

[mademan]

Everyone keeps saying philly, but it would be difficult money wise. Not impossible, but not easy at all. Harden embiid Harris make like 110 mill between them;can u get 10-12 more players for 30 mill? If u keep curry that’s 20ish mill for 9-11 players

You’d have to move Tobias to free up some room under the hard cap and that’s not that easy

2024 is when the tv deal renews so I assume they expect a large spike in the cap.

Is that going into effect this offseason? Is that gonna increase the cap/lux tax/ hard cap numbers for next year? I thought it would be the year after

[HardenGoat]

Harden is keeping the option open simply because Kyrie is a huge liability. Can't rely on him. How would you like your co-star saying basketball is not all that important when your whole goal in life is to win a championship? What will happen if another Covid strain hits again and mandates don't let up later this year when we start another season?

[Pointgod]

Is there a realistic scenario where Harden can actually leave? Nets wont get equal value and have invested too much to sign and trade him. There are no realistic teams with cap space unless Harden wants to play for the Pistons?

Of course it’s not realistic. Just think for a second. Just look at the teams with capspace next summer. Eliminate the teams that are already hard capped. Eliminate the teams where a sign and trade would hard cap them. Then realize in a sign and trade the Nets would have to take more salary back than what’s going out if they’re dealing with a team that’s hard capped.

Now let’s go back to the teams with enough cap space to sign Harden:
-Orlando
-Detroit
-San Antonio

Unless he really likes the strip clubs and food in these cities this rumour is absolute bull

What about teams that can clear cap by trading for expiring contracts at the deadline?

How many of those teams would be a contender after they clear capspace? You’d have to clear enough capspace to get about 50 million under the cap to sign him out right and at 45 for a sign and trade. A lot easier said than done. Look at all the teams that are competitive right now. Even a play in team would need to have a fire sale and miss the playoffs just to clear enough capspace.

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/

[ZombieKilla]

Harden's extension with the Nets would be 4 years, $227 Million (average $56.75 Million a year).
The Nets will either destroy their cap for a few years or lose him after going all in to get him.
Either way, those unprotected picks are gonna be nice for the Rockets.

[dhsilv2]

Everyone keeps saying philly, but it would be difficult money wise. Not impossible, but not easy at all. Harden embiid Harris make like 110 mill between them;can u get 10-12 more players for 30 mill? If u keep curry that’s 20ish mill for 9-11 players

You’d have to move Tobias to free up some room under the hard cap and that’s not that easy

2024 is when the tv deal renews so I assume they expect a large spike in the cap.

Is that going into effect this offseason? Is that gonna increase the cap/lux tax/ hard cap numbers for next year? I thought it would be the year after

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they trade Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?