[BLEACHER REPORT]: Open Willingness From James Harden To Relocate This Summer

[kuclas]

Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

How is clear, because you don't want it to be true? Harden left the going got tough in Houston, and with Irving being a part timer and KD injuries, the path to a title isn't as easy as it once seemed. It's very likely that something drastic happens with that big three, and it wouldn't surprise me in the bit if its Harden leaving.

Its not about not wanting it to be true.

There have been rumors of Harden to Philly since last summer. And we know he wanted him when he was in Houston.

The path for the title won't be easy in Philly either. Considering he will have to be the guy in crunch time which we know he isn't good at. Right now he can hide behind KD.

Not sure what contender he can go to that gives him a better chance of winning that with KD and Kyrie.

Embiid has never had an iso scorer down the stretch. Even 33 year old harden will be better than 29 almost 30 year jimmy butler embiid had.

and 2021-2022 version of embiid has gotten a lot better than 2019 Version of embiid.

[JimmyPlopper]

Harden and Maxey would fit well together. Maxey is not a pure point. He's a great slasher and decent shooter. Average court vision and average passing abilities.

[michaelm]

2024 is when the tv deal renews so I assume they expect a large spike in the cap.

Is that going into effect this offseason? Is that gonna increase the cap/lux tax/ hard cap numbers for next year? I thought it would be the year after

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they traded do Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?

I don’t understand it either but I think bird rights are involved with Wiggins. They also manoeuvred in 2019-2020 to avoid/delay the repeater tax. I don’t think the current situation is at all sustainable because the repeater tax is so punitive.

[DarkXaero]

Harden ain't leaving Nets for Philly.

[DarkXaero]

Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

Harden not signing an extension is fueling these rumors more so than anything else.

He stands to gain more from signing an extension this summer, as opposed to last. It didn't make much financial sense for him to sign an extension last offseason.

[queridiculo]

So no chance that Morey is spreading rumors to get the Nets to listen to a trade proposal, right?

[dhsilv2]

Is that going into effect this offseason? Is that gonna increase the cap/lux tax/ hard cap numbers for next year? I thought it would be the year after

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they traded do Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?

I don’t understand it either but I think bird rights are involved with Wiggins. They also manoeuvred in 2019-2020 to avoid/delay the repeater tax. I don’t think the current situation is at all sustainable because the repeater tax is so punitive.

If the 700 million a year estimated revenue for the warriors (once covid is over) is true....they can afford any tax numbers. I don't understand that hard line with the cap though.

[dhsilv2]

Morey is clearly fueling these rumors.

I'm not saying theres no chance he leaves. But Morey has been trying to make this happen forever.

Harden not signing an extension is fueling these rumors more so than anything else.

He stands to gain more from signing an extension this summer, as opposed to last. It didn't make much financial sense for him to sign an extension last offseason.

You're one step away from a career ending injury. But ok...

[art_tatum]

If Lebron was in KD's shoes, he would have traded Kyries ass long ago. That would probably increase the chance to keep Harden happy, as a 3rd All Star who can play at home would increase the chance for a ring

And that's why lebron's the real snake

[DarkXaero]

Harden not signing an extension is fueling these rumors more so than anything else.

He stands to gain more from signing an extension this summer, as opposed to last. It didn't make much financial sense for him to sign an extension last offseason.

You're one step away from a career ending injury. But ok...

I don't think it matters much for a player like Harden's caliber. KD was able to get a max in free agency right after tearing his achilles. Harden isn't quite KD caliber perhaps but he's still a former MVP and an All NBA player, I don't think there will be much hesitation to offer him a max or near max.

[zshawn10]

Unprotected Nets picks

KD resigned already. He alone will keep that unprotected pick 15 or worst.

He's 33 and keeps getting injured; he's out for 4-6 weeks as of this post

[michaelm]

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they traded do Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?

I don’t understand it either but I think bird rights are involved with Wiggins. They also manoeuvred in 2019-2020 to avoid/delay the repeater tax. I don’t think the current situation is at all sustainable because the repeater tax is so punitive.

If the 700 million a year estimated revenue for the warriors (once covid is over) is true....they can afford any tax numbers. I don't understand that hard line with the cap though.

I am sure there are capologists on here who do understand it, but afaik Wiggins $30 million per year doesn't count for the hard cap because they ended up with his bird rights from the sequence of trades. I don't know whether bird rights might apply for Harden, just that he has a player option and can sign a more lucrative extension next off season rather than last.

The luxury tax with repeater tax can get into the hundreds of millions which is problematic even for billionaire NBA owners, but Lacob is perhaps caught because he presumably needs the team to be successful for the expensive new stadium to be profitable. Having Oubre on the team reputedly cost them $80 million dollars last year btw, and they don't seem so keen to spend money like water this year cf how they finessed GP11's signing at the risk of losing him to another team, although this may have involved maintaining flexibility as well.

I think the year GSW essentially tanked got them out of the repeater tax temporarily, and there were all manner of manoeuvres with contracts, trades, cutting players etc that year to do so. The Sixers I presume will want to win the title next year if they have both Harden and Embiid.

[mademan]

2024 is when the tv deal renews so I assume they expect a large spike in the cap.

Is that going into effect this offseason? Is that gonna increase the cap/lux tax/ hard cap numbers for next year? I thought it would be the year after

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they trade Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?

Certian actions hard cap you and youre unable to pass that salary point. S&T's are one of those actions. This years hard cap number was at 143 million and i see no reason that next years wouldnt be similar.

With small raises to Embiid/Harris and Harden's max being like 10 mill greater than Simmons rookie max, it's gonna take a lot of work to get in under that number. Harris trade for less salary is basically a requirement but thats not as easy as it seems either. And if after all that what you have is Harden (who hasnt looked like a superstar this year), Embiid, Curry and minimums...is that really a win?

[Hello Brooklyn]

How is clear, because you don't want it to be true? Harden left the going got tough in Houston, and with Irving being a part timer and KD injuries, the path to a title isn't as easy as it once seemed. It's very likely that something drastic happens with that big three, and it wouldn't surprise me in the bit if its Harden leaving.

Its not about not wanting it to be true.

There have been rumors of Harden to Philly since last summer. And we know he wanted him when he was in Houston.

The path for the title won't be easy in Philly either. Considering he will have to be the guy in crunch time which we know he isn't good at. Right now he can hide behind KD.

Not sure what contender he can go to that gives him a better chance of winning that with KD and Kyrie.

Embiid has never had an iso scorer down the stretch. Even 33 year old harden will be better than 29 almost 30 year jimmy butler embiid had.

and 2021-2022 version of embiid has gotten a lot better than 2019 Version of embiid.

Exactly.

Youre not getting it.

Why would Harden want that responsibility? When clearly its not his strength.

Now he has KD to be that guy. And also Kyrie.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Unprotected Nets picks

KD resigned already. He alone will keep that unprotected pick 15 or worst.

He's 33 and keeps getting injured; he's out for 4-6 weeks as of this post

And Embiid is the epitome of health?

Literally hurt every single playoff run.

[Shock Defeat]

KD resigned already. He alone will keep that unprotected pick 15 or worst.

He's 33 and keeps getting injured; he's out for 4-6 weeks as of this post

And Embiid is the epitome of health?

Literally hurt every single playoff run.

What happens to Embed has no bearing on the Rockets picks that they own from the Nets, that's what he's talking about.

[kuclas]

Is that going into effect this offseason? Is that gonna increase the cap/lux tax/ hard cap numbers for next year? I thought it would be the year after

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they trade Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?

Certian actions hard cap you and youre unable to pass that salary point. S&T's are one of those actions. This years hard cap number was at 143 million and i see no reason that next years wouldnt be similar.

With small raises to Embiid/Harris and Harden's max being like 10 mill greater than Simmons rookie max, it's gonna take a lot of work to get in under that number. Harris trade for less salary is basically a requirement but thats not as easy as it seems either. And if after all that what you have is Harden (who hasnt looked like a superstar this year), Embiid, Curry and minimums...is that really a win?

Embiid carries the sixers. Unlike the nets who have no true interior rim protector. Embiid plays defense as well. So you have arguably the best offensive center (I know Jokic fans will complain). Let’s just say embiid is in discussion as one of the top 2 offensive centers. Than you have harden.

And curry waiting on the outside to shoot 3s. It’s incredible pressure to any defense to try to stop that. Harden doesn’t have to score. Embiid doesn’t have to be the scorer. It’s the simple threat either one of them can score. And if one of doubled. Guess who is opened? One of them is open. Add curry waiting for open shot. The only way to stop that is joe one of them is injured. That’s the only way.

That’s only way the bucks won and barely. By KD foot being on the line. And Kd was the only offense since harden was hobbled.

So yes embiid harden and curry plus Maxey and thybulle on rookie contracts alone is a title team. Kork and Milton are low budget already.

[HardenGoat]

I'm not a hard cap expert but they're 36M under the warriors spend this year? So what's the issue if they trade Ben who makes 10 less plus filler?

Certian actions hard cap you and youre unable to pass that salary point. S&T's are one of those actions. This years hard cap number was at 143 million and i see no reason that next years wouldnt be similar.

With small raises to Embiid/Harris and Harden's max being like 10 mill greater than Simmons rookie max, it's gonna take a lot of work to get in under that number. Harris trade for less salary is basically a requirement but thats not as easy as it seems either. And if after all that what you have is Harden (who hasnt looked like a superstar this year), Embiid, Curry and minimums...is that really a win?

Embiid carries the sixers. Unlike the nets who have no true interior rim protector. Embiid plays defense as well. So you have arguably the best offensive center (I know Jokic fans will complain). Let’s just say embiid is in discussion as one of the top 2 offensive centers. Than you have harden.

And curry waiting on the outside to shoot 3s. It’s incredible pressure to any defense to try to stop that. Harden doesn’t have to score. Embiid doesn’t have to be the scorer. It’s the simple threat either one of them can score. And if one of doubled. Guess who is opened? One of them is open. Add curry waiting for open shot. The only way to stop that is joe one of them is injured. That’s the only way.

That’s only way the bucks won and barely. By KD foot being on the line. And Kd was the only offense since harden was hobbled.

So yes embiid harden and curry plus Maxey and thybulle on rookie contracts alone is a title team. Kork and Milton are low budget already.

I agree. Harden with Embiid would be devastating with a another spot up shooter to space the floor. Harden hasn’t looked complete due to a consistent lack of an elite rim rolling big. Embiid is that and more. This is why Morey will exhaust every possible way to get him.

[NRSV]

Lmao!!!

Maybe if these players screw one of these big market owners, we can get some changes finally made.

[Lalouie]

he's a west coaster born and raised