Trades and Transactions, 2022 Edition

newyorker4ever · Post #1021 » by **newyorker4ever** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:57 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
DowNY wrote:Posted this in the postgame thread of Knicks/Hornets.

Y’all think Colin Sexton would take a 1 year $10M MLE to start here ?
I don’t see the Cavs bringing him back or even making him RFA.

No

We should try to get him nevertheless. A scoring guard is a need.

I'll take him of course but i want a real PG and this team needs a real PG not another combo guard who can score IMO. He can still help us but not as much as a true floor general.

WargamesX · Post #1022 » by **WargamesX** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:15 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:I feel like the best realistic and possible outcome of this season is a late lottery pick. I think moving into the top 6 is completely out of the question and I don*t think we*ll surpass the Raptors or Charlotte (barring major injuries hitting them).

I'm usually not a big tank guy and it is essentially too late for that but I think this team is headed towards the 35 wins which may have us ending up with a pick in the 10-12 range. Not that bad. I think it is definitely a place in the draft where you could find someone nice or build a nice package around that pick.

I actually think the same thing. Honestly the Knicks being the Knicks they might trade down, or trade up, but if they wanted a chance at some of the more interesting PGs like TyTy, Dyson, Jean Montero, or Kennedy Chandler… 10 - 12 is exactly where they would want to be.

thebuzzardman · Post #1023 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:08 am

WargamesX wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:I feel like the best realistic and possible outcome of this season is a late lottery pick. I think moving into the top 6 is completely out of the question and I don*t think we*ll surpass the Raptors or Charlotte (barring major injuries hitting them).

I'm usually not a big tank guy and it is essentially too late for that but I think this team is headed towards the 35 wins which may have us ending up with a pick in the 10-12 range. Not that bad. I think it is definitely a place in the draft where you could find someone nice or build a nice package around that pick.

I actually think the same thing. Honestly the Knicks being the Knicks they might trade down, or trade up, but if they wanted a chance at some of the more interesting PGs like TyTy, Dyson, Jean Montero, or Kennedy Chandler… 10 - 12 is exactly where they would want to be.

Basically, the Knicks can be last year's Pacers. That fake playoff team that makes the late lottery and drafts a decent player, only it's the Knicks and they don't do well drafting 20th on up.

WargamesX · Post #1024 » by **WargamesX** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:23 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
HopelessKnick wrote:I feel like the best realistic and possible outcome of this season is a late lottery pick. I think moving into the top 6 is completely out of the question and I don*t think we*ll surpass the Raptors or Charlotte (barring major injuries hitting them).

I'm usually not a big tank guy and it is essentially too late for that but I think this team is headed towards the 35 wins which may have us ending up with a pick in the 10-12 range. Not that bad. I think it is definitely a place in the draft where you could find someone nice or build a nice package around that pick.

I actually think the same thing. Honestly the Knicks being the Knicks they might trade down, or trade up, but if they wanted a chance at some of the more interesting PGs like TyTy, Dyson, Jean Montero, or Kennedy Chandler… 10 - 12 is exactly where they would want to be.

Basically, the Knicks can be last year's Pacers. That fake playoff team that makes the late lottery and drafts a decent player, only it's the Knicks and they don't do well drafting 20th on up.

They could probably move Obi for a pick in the 20’s :dontknow:

This time they might get it right….

HopelessKnick · Post #1025 » by **HopelessKnick** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:24 am

The truth is just that this team simply lacks in talent and has no superstar to somehow make it work. I do however think that to be a good team (meaning 45-50 win range) we don't need multiple all-stars but just one guy that you can rely on more consistantly. That guy would obviously have to be a star player but wouldn't need to be a superstar or top 10 player etc. You can see the games where Barrett shoots well and scores around 25 points we usually end up with a win.

A 7th or 8th seed and first round demolition won't do anythig for this team at all. From this point on I really hope we lose more games and end up in a better draft position. It is the best and healthiest thing for this franchise going forward. I also feel that around the draft other teams are more willing to trade star players (if it's that what the FO wants to do) and there is a huge difference in value between an 17th/18th pick compared to a 10th pick. I think the upcoming schedule will take care of that anyways.

If we are brutally honest then this team minus Rose was a .500 win team all along. Even when Randle was playing on all-star level and Barrett was playing better they were roughly a .500 win team. We need a significant upgrade in talent. Giving up two FRPs for Turner or Grant is not a fruitful direction.

If it was up to me I'd call any buyer at the deadline and look to trade Walker and Burks for an expiring---make some room for Grimes and be in a position to be able to create more room in the FA if there is some interesting FA or trade to be made.

snadler · Post #1026 » by **snadler** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:08 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Can't we entice Sac with a better younger version of Sabonis that also plays PF, can't defend and is left handed

Jeffrey · Post #1027 » by **Jeffrey** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:24 pm

F N 11 wrote:Pacers want 2 first round picks for Turner lol.

I think Rose set the market with the Cam Reddish trade.

Post #1028 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:37 pm

snadler wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Can't we entice Sac with a better younger version of Sabonis that also plays PF, can't defend and is left handed

If they are interested in Sabonis, there has to be some deal with Randle we can make work. But unfortunately knicks probably don't want to trade him

Jeffrey · Post #1029 » by **Jeffrey** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:04 pm

Read on Twitter

It was a no a week ago for me.. definitely a no if this tweet is true.

3toheadmelo · Post #1030 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:23 pm

Jeffrey wrote:

Read on Twitter

It was a no a week ago for me.. definitely a no if this tweet is true.

this man ain’t nothing but a stat padder

Post #1031 » by **DOT** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:49 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:

Read on Twitter

It was a no a week ago for me.. definitely a no if this tweet is true.

this man ain’t nothing but a stat padder

3toheadmelo · Post #1032 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:52 pm

K-DOT wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:

Read on Twitter

It was a no a week ago for me.. definitely a no if this tweet is true.

this man ain’t nothing but a stat padder

he actually plays a lot like RJ tbh

Post #1033 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:59 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
snadler wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Can't we entice Sac with a better younger version of Sabonis that also plays PF, can't defend and is left handed

If they are interested in Sabonis, there has to be some deal with Randle we can make work. But unfortunately knicks probably don't want to trade him

You're probably not wrong. Randle probably would be the better choice for them to be quite honest. If Sabonis was a Knick and Randle was playing in mostly obscurity in Indiana, it would be Sabonis that would be disappointing the heck out of everyone. Randle may not make them a top playoff team but lets be serious Sabonis wouldn't either. Randle IMO is the better player of the two. But yeah, no, I seriously doubt the Knicks would be looking to trade Randle. Their trying to get better talent to play with Randle.

Post #1034 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:05 pm

the guy with a 64.5 TS%

or

the guy with a 51.1 TS%

I could understand why they would be leaning one way over the other.

thebuzzardman · Post #1035 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:12 pm

Jeffrey wrote:

Read on Twitter

It was a no a week ago for me.. definitely a no if this tweet is true.

What's' funny is, giving him 30 shots a game like Wandle gets, and the Knicks are no better and no worse.

Ok, maybe they are a little better defensively.

msanchez2725 · Post #1036 » by **msanchez2725** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:26 pm

Why would the Pacers want Fox though? They just extended Brogdan.

snadler · Post #1037 » by **snadler** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:30 pm

msanchez2725 wrote:Why would the Pacers want Fox though? They just extended Brogdan.

I agree, but every team in the nba values the point guard position and would rather go 2-3 deep, while the knicks don't and havent had one in 40 years

sol537 · Post #1038 » by **sol537** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:35 pm

Grant is a nice #4 piece. We should not be looking at him. Or Turner.

Go after Fox or Haliburton or Tyus Jones this deadline... if that fails, look for guys like Brogdon, Brunson, etc. in the off-season.

By the start of next season, I expect us to have an upgrade at the PG position, one way or another. It would be idiotic otherwise.

WargamesX · Post #1039 » by **WargamesX** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:48 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
snadler wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Can't we entice Sac with a better younger version of Sabonis that also plays PF, can't defend and is left handed

If they are interested in Sabonis, there has to be some deal with Randle we can make work. But unfortunately knicks probably don't want to trade him

How is the fit with Fox and Brogdon. It feels like it would be a messy back court. In a vacuu, Fox is much better than Sabonis though.

Post #1040 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:54 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Jeffrey wrote:

Read on Twitter

It was a no a week ago for me.. definitely a no if this tweet is true.

What's' funny is, giving him 30 shots a game like Wandle gets, and the Knicks are no better and no worse.

Ok, maybe they are a little better defensively.

Randle is a better offensive player. If Grant was forced into Randle's role (no.1 option on offense, guy who runs the offense) on this team he'd be even worse at it cause he's not as talented in that area. Grants better defensively but that's not really the Knicks biggest problem right now.