Nikola Jokic 21-22 Thread - 2022 NBA MVP Any thoughts?

[ty 4191]

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=most+triple+doubles+by+a+center+2015-16+to+2021-22+including+playoffs

Most Triple Doubles by a center since 2015-2016 including playoffs:

Jokic: 70
Sabonis: 9

HYSTERICAL!!

He's the best center, all around, since Kareem Abdul Jabaar.

[ty 4191]

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As usual, he's astounding. 26/21/11. Typical game for him, basically.

He may be the most underrated and overlooked all time great player (of my lifetime).

[ty 4191]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/

[ty 4191]

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[ty 4191]

Highest PER, Regular Season, NBA History (Min 1000 MP):

1. Jokic 2021-2021: 32.2
2. Giannis 2019-2020: 31.9
3. Chamberlain 1962-1963: 31.8
4. Jordan 1987-1988: 31.7
5. Lebron 2008-2009: 31.7
6. Chamberlain 1961-1962: 31.7
7. Lebron 2012-2013: 31.6
8. Giannis 2021-2022: 31.6
9. Jordan 1990-1991: 31.6
10. Chamberlain 1963-1964: 31.6

[ty 4191]

This guy is having one the greatest two year runs in history, and I'm (apparently) the only person who gives ****.

Yet, Lebron James effing coughs and there's 1,000 posts here about the timbre, depth, and nature of the cough.

The Lebron Worship/Fapping/Zoomers here are such a total joke. Such ignorance and blind/silly idolatry.

[ty 4191]

Definitely the most overrated superstar in the history of the NBA

MJ
Kareem
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Hakeem
Shaq
Russell
Wilt
Barkley
Malone
Kobe
Westbr…Lebron

This.

[falcolombardi]

This guy is having one the greatest two year runs in history, and I'm (apparently) the only person who gives ****.

Yet, Lebron James effing coughs and there's 1,000 posts here about the timbre, depth, and nature of the cough.

The Lebron Worship/Fapping/Zoomers here are such a total joke. Such ignorance and blind/silly idolatry.

in fairness the lebron worship comes with lebron obsessive hate in a full package lol
good or bad any discussion about him in mainstream media or fandom turns into a war, kobe may be the omly player who achieved the same effect but it calmed down after retirement

if it was only lack of attention compared to lebron it would be one thingh

the issue is that i think nobody pays any attention to jokic, lamelo ball legitemely may be more talked about than him

it may be that his combination of small market, quiet personality (sort of) and not fitting the archetypical perimeter scorer expwctations of a superstar make him underated

[Peregrine01]

This guy is having one the greatest two year runs in history, and I'm (apparently) the only person who gives ****.

Yet, Lebron James effing coughs and there's 1,000 posts here about the timbre, depth, and nature of the cough.

The Lebron Worship/Fapping/Zoomers here are such a total joke. Such ignorance and blind/silly idolatry.

Jokic is my favorite player and yes, he's having one of the greatest seasons ever on offense. But his team completely sucks and ultimately basketball is still a team game. I think the Nuggets were +5 in Jokic on-court minutes against the Jazz and lost by nearly 30. I sincerely hope that they can build a great team around him because he's a generational-type player.

[ty 4191]

Jokic is my favorite player and yes, he's having one of the greatest seasons ever on offense. But his team completely sucks and ultimately basketball is still a team game. I think the Nuggets were +5 in Jokic on-court minutes against the Jazz and lost by nearly 30. I sincerely hope that they can build a great team around him because he's a generational-type player.

Jokic has the highest PER of any player in history this year. I know we're only half way through, but still.

It's a shame. I wish people would give him the credit and attention his last 2 years deserve, on this forum.

[parsnips33]

This guy is having one the greatest two year runs in history, and I'm (apparently) the only person who gives ****.

Yet, Lebron James effing coughs and there's 1,000 posts here about the timbre, depth, and nature of the cough.

The Lebron Worship/Fapping/Zoomers here are such a total joke. Such ignorance and blind/silly idolatry.

in fairness the lebron worship comes with lebron obsessive hate in a full package lol
good or bad any discussion about him in mainstream media or fandom turns into a war, kobe may be the omly player who achieved the same effect but it calmed down after retirement

if it was only lack of attention compared to lebron it would be one thingh

the issue is that i think nobody pays any attention to jokic, lamelo ball legitemely may be more talked about than him

it may be that his combination of small market, quiet personality (sort of) and not fitting the archetypical perimeter scorer expwctations of a superstar make him underated

100% the love and the hate go hand in hand.

I've said it before, but if Jokic got the respect he deserves he would've been KILLED for getting swept by the Suns. (whether he should be blamed for that is a separate question) Jokic is no question good enough for love/hate, but right now all he seems to get is indifference. Not sure that's going to change unless he either wins a ring or goes to like the Lakers

[ty 4191]

100% the love and the hate go hand in hand.

I've said it before, but if Jokic got the respect he deserves he would've been KILLED for getting swept by the Suns. (whether he should be blamed for that is a separate question) Jokic is no question good enough for love/hate, but right now all he seems to get is indifference. Not sure that's going to change unless he either wins a ring or goes to like the Lakers

Luckily? He couldn't care less.

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[parsnips33]

100% the love and the hate go hand in hand.

I've said it before, but if Jokic got the respect he deserves he would've been KILLED for getting swept by the Suns. (whether he should be blamed for that is a separate question) Jokic is no question good enough for love/hate, but right now all he seems to get is indifference. Not sure that's going to change unless he either wins a ring or goes to like the Lakers

Luckily? He couldn't care less.

Read on Twitter

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As much as I love a showman like Embiid, there's something refreshing about a star who just says "I don't care about my 'brand', I'm just really really really good at basketball"

[ty 4191]

As much as I love a showman like Embiid, there's something refreshing about a star who just says "I don't care about my 'brand', I'm just really really really good at basketball"

Isn't that something? 95% of the superstars today are engaged in ceaseless self-worship, and yet, Jokic is trouncing them all, except possibly Giannis, in overall value as a player since the beginning of last season.

[falcolombardi]

As much as I love a showman like Embiid, there's something refreshing about a star who just says "I don't care about my 'brand', I'm just really really really good at basketball"

Isn't that something? 95% of the superstars today are engaged in ceaseless self-worship, and yet, Jokic is trouncing them all, except possibly Giannis, in overall value as a player since the beginning of last season.

not like it was anythingh different in the past lol, huge ego is a common characteristic of top athletes

[falcolombardi]

This guy is having one the greatest two year runs in history, and I'm (apparently) the only person who gives ****.

Yet, Lebron James effing coughs and there's 1,000 posts here about the timbre, depth, and nature of the cough.

The Lebron Worship/Fapping/Zoomers here are such a total joke. Such ignorance and blind/silly idolatry.

in fairness the lebron worship comes with lebron obsessive hate in a full package lol
good or bad any discussion about him in mainstream media or fandom turns into a war, kobe may be the omly player who achieved the same effect but it calmed down after retirement

if it was only lack of attention compared to lebron it would be one thingh

the issue is that i think nobody pays any attention to jokic, lamelo ball legitemely may be more talked about than him

it may be that his combination of small market, quiet personality (sort of) and not fitting the archetypical perimeter scorer expwctations of a superstar make him underated

100% the love and the hate go hand in hand.

I've said it before, but if Jokic got the respect he deserves he would've been KILLED for getting swept by the Suns. (whether he should be blamed for that is a separate question) Jokic is no question good enough for love/hate, but right now all he seems to get is indifference. Not sure that's going to change unless he either wins a ring or goes to like the Lakers

it could always be worse , you could be Rudy gobert

be judged by all time nearly lebron level standards as far as results go. while being given as little credit and respect as possible and mocked for literally every single poster dunk or time a perimeter player cooks you in the perimeter as if that was not 99% of centers

[ty 4191]

As much as I love a showman like Embiid, there's something refreshing about a star who just says "I don't care about my 'brand', I'm just really really really good at basketball"

Isn't that something? 95% of the superstars today are engaged in ceaseless self-worship, and yet, Jokic is trouncing them all, except possibly Giannis, in overall value as a player since the beginning of last season.

not like it was anythingh different in the past lol, huge ego is a common characteristic of top athletes

NOTHING like today though, mi amigo viejo.

Social Media has amped it up hype and attention times 100,000. Literally. And it's all interactive, which makes it that much worse.

Can you imagine, for example.....Wilt Chamberlain's career and entire personal life plastered all over social media today, amongst tens of millions of followers on Twitter, Instragram, and Faceboook, among others!!??

He'd be a National Treasure. And would be the most hated person in America.

[nate33]

When Jokic is on the floor, the Nuggets have a +9.3 point differential, which would rank 1st in the league.
When Jokic is off the floor, the Nuggets have a -11.7 point differential, which would rank last in the league.

The guy turns the worst team in the league into the best team in the league when he steps on the court.

[CumberlandPosey]

i like the little synergy he develops with bones.and the sky-high rainbow threes or baseline fades that never touch the rim.i try to watch almost every game and the stuff he brings on a almost-minute-like basis is enough for some players whole career.just incredible what he did the last seasons.cant understand the defensive praise though.hes not noteworthy on that end especially in an all-time sense.he tries hard i have to give him that.it all doesnt matter anyways because with him on the floor the nuggets offense brings out just the best in basketball as a game.incredible achievement.
joker leading the break is also something many players can learn from.so much control and diaw-like hands.hope murray will come back for the playoffs...

[ty 4191]

When Jokic is on the floor, the Nuggets have a +9.3 point differential, which would rank 1st in the league.
When Jokic is off the floor, the Nuggets have a -11.7 point differential, which would rank last in the league.

The guy turns the worst team in the league into the best team in the league when he steps on the court.

Amazing!

Where, specifically, did you find this?

Also, has anyone ever had an on/off that turned their team from first to last on the floor in NBA history?