LeBron and MJ in the same team.

[Matt15]

Yes it would work and they would win but for how long before egos get in the way?

Patrick Beverly
Michael Jordan
Trevor Ariza
Lebron James
Rudy Gobert

Good luck scoring against this team

[Dino353]

Hate when people misspell LeBron's name. It's not Lebron it's LeBron.

[picko]

It would definitely work on offense. MJ sacrificed the entire second half of his career playing off ball. Defense is where it'd get interesting. Mike often took the toughest perimeter assignment late in games or in the playoffs but Scottie would do it up to that point. Lebron almost never guards the best guys. So is MJ guarding POA the entire game and sacrificing on both ends for Lebron? How long is that going to work?

I'm sorry, what? Jordan never sacrificed on offense for anyone, ever, even when he should have (Wizards tenure).

His usage in both the regular season and playoffs are practically unchanged across the first and second half of his Bulls tenure. His shot attempts per 100 possessions increased in the second half of his career and his assist rate declined.

That Phil Jackson had him work within the triangle doesn't mean that Jordan sacrificed anything.

[VanWest82]

It would definitely work on offense. MJ sacrificed the entire second half of his career playing off ball. Defense is where it'd get interesting. Mike often took the toughest perimeter assignment late in games or in the playoffs but Scottie would do it up to that point. Lebron almost never guards the best guys. So is MJ guarding POA the entire game and sacrificing on both ends for Lebron? How long is that going to work?

I'm sorry, what? Jordan never sacrificed on offense for anyone, ever, even when he should have (Wizards tenure).

His usage in both the regular season and playoffs are practically unchanged across the first and second half of his Bulls tenure. His shot attempts per 100 possessions increased in the second half of his career and his assist rate declined.

That Phil Jackson had him work within the triangle doesn't mean that Jordan sacrificed anything.

Lol. Please tell me more about this subject which you clearly know nothing about.

[DroseReturnChi]

sure lebron will just dish 10 assists and let mj get his 30 pts. lebron always shy away from clutch times.

[picko]

It would definitely work on offense. MJ sacrificed the entire second half of his career playing off ball. Defense is where it'd get interesting. Mike often took the toughest perimeter assignment late in games or in the playoffs but Scottie would do it up to that point. Lebron almost never guards the best guys. So is MJ guarding POA the entire game and sacrificing on both ends for Lebron? How long is that going to work?

I'm sorry, what? Jordan never sacrificed on offense for anyone, ever, even when he should have (Wizards tenure).

His usage in both the regular season and playoffs are practically unchanged across the first and second half of his Bulls tenure. His shot attempts per 100 possessions increased in the second half of his career and his assist rate declined.

That Phil Jackson had him work within the triangle doesn't mean that Jordan sacrificed anything.

Lol. Please tell me more about this subject which you clearly know nothing about.

If I clearly know nothing about it then it should be rather easy for you to prove me wrong. Feel free to explain the great sacrifices that Jordan made while increasing his shooting rate and passing less

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Jordan would make him cry, not even kidding. It wouldn't work.

[VanWest82]

I'm sorry, what? Jordan never sacrificed on offense for anyone, ever, even when he should have (Wizards tenure).

His usage in both the regular season and playoffs are practically unchanged across the first and second half of his Bulls tenure. His shot attempts per 100 possessions increased in the second half of his career and his assist rate declined.

That Phil Jackson had him work within the triangle doesn't mean that Jordan sacrificed anything.

Lol. Please tell me more about this subject which you clearly know nothing about.

If I clearly know nothing about it then it should be rather easy for you to prove me wrong. Feel free to explain the great sacrifices that Jordan made while increasing his shooting rate and passing less

You could watch his doc where he explains it or just google it. The answers are out there and easy to find. I could waste my time explaining it to you but given what you wrote it's clear you already have your mind made up despite not having been around when it was happening, so think I'm going to just wish you good night and end it here.

[picc]

Jordan was actually a natural off-ball player. Not even close to someone like Harden. He got a lot of offense curling off screens and cuts. If he could thrive playing with a non-shooting, ball-handling, playmaking forward like Pippen, he could thrive with anyone in history.

Jordan can be on-ball or off-ball, both players can shoot. Jordan better off the catch, Bron better from three.

On defense there's two dynamic playmakers who can guard multiple positions.

[Optms]

I would be interested to see whose talent shines more.

Lebron has always outshined every one of his teammates. Hell, basically everyone on the opposing team as well. It would be interesting to witness. About the only player that could outshine Lebron would be Jordan, IMO. I would kill to see that dynamic.

[picko]

Lol. Please tell me more about this subject which you clearly know nothing about.

If I clearly know nothing about it then it should be rather easy for you to prove me wrong. Feel free to explain the great sacrifices that Jordan made while increasing his shooting rate and passing less

You could watch his doc where he explains it or just google it. The answers are out there and easy to find. I could waste my time explaining it to you but given what you wrote it's clear you already have your mind made up despite not having been around when it was happening, so think I'm going to just wish you good night and end it here.

Assuming that I'm not old enough to have seen Jordan - a leap you made without any meaningful evidence - is quite simply asinine.

Quite frankly, as someone who remembers the 1990s and watched a lot of Jordan in real-time it is unfathomable to me that anyone who did the same could genuinely believe that Jordan made sacrifices on offense. We know what offensive sacrifice looks like and Jordan in the 1990s is not it.

Are we sure that you were old enough to watch Jordan?

[VanWest82]

If I clearly know nothing about it then it should be rather easy for you to prove me wrong. Feel free to explain the great sacrifices that Jordan made while increasing his shooting rate and passing less

You could watch his doc where he explains it or just google it. The answers are out there and easy to find. I could waste my time explaining it to you but given what you wrote it's clear you already have your mind made up despite not having been around when it was happening, so think I'm going to just wish you good night and end it here.

Assuming that I'm not old enough to have seen Jordan - a leap you made without any meaningful evidence - is quite simply asinine.

Quite frankly, as someone who remembers the 1990s and watched a lot of Jordan in real-time it is unfathomable to me that anyone who did the same could genuinely believe that Jordan made sacrifices on offense. We know what offensive sacrifice looks like and Jordan in the 1990s is not it.

Are we sure that you were old enough to watch Jordan?

You already mentioned it and dismissed it in the same sentence. Your mind is made up and you don't know what you're talking about. There is no point in continuing this conversation.

[Flash4thewin]

So this is interesting, if they both come in at the same age considering how Lebron was more hyped, he would be the team leader. If we are taking about prime I think they would make it work. Also does Jordan quit/retire? Today people would crucify him but then love him when he returns. So many variables to consider.

[falcolombardi]

i will go with a bold prediction and say they probably would win a lot

spicy i know

[picc]

I assume we're going with 2013-ish Lebron and 1991-ish Jordan?

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

It depends.

We have yet to see Lebron play against handchecking in a tougher era of defense.

Handchecking was allowed during LeBron's rookie season. Grumpy heat fan wrong again.

Funny you mention that.

Lebrons rookie season with handchecking : shot 41%, 20 ppg

The very next season when handchecking was banned : shot 47%, 27 ppg


what a difference.

Lebron shot 41% on 20ppg vs handchecking.

[art_tatum]

Though the real question is who would bend over more for china if they played today.

[FreeThrowLine]

It would definitely work on offense. MJ sacrificed the entire second half of his career playing off ball. Defense is where it'd get interesting. Mike often took the toughest perimeter assignment late in games or in the playoffs but Scottie would do it up to that point. Lebron almost never guards the best guys. So is MJ guarding POA the entire game and sacrificing on both ends for Lebron? How long is that going to work?

I'm sorry, what? Jordan never sacrificed on offense for anyone, ever, even when he should have (Wizards tenure).

His usage in both the regular season and playoffs are practically unchanged across the first and second half of his Bulls tenure. His shot attempts per 100 possessions increased in the second half of his career and his assist rate declined.

That Phil Jackson had him work within the triangle doesn't mean that Jordan sacrificed anything.

He absolutely did and it was definitely due to both the triangle and the improvement of talent around him. I really don't see how anyone that watched him play before Phil and after could argue otherwise. Phil and MJ both have spoken about this countless times in the past, that he was asked to trust his teammates and play within the triangle (which he initially didn't like)

If you look at his attempts just before Jackson took over, he was at 27 and 24 attempts a game (I'll round up/down to keep the numbers clean) which was a big step up from his rookie and 2nd year (injured most of the season) and watching him play with very little help

After Phil takes over it drops to 21 attempts a game and hovers around that for the rest of his career, with a max of 22.7 and minimum of 18. Considering his minutes are pretty set at around 38-40 minutes throughout that period, I don't see the benefit in looking at shot attempts per 100 possessions as it doesn't have any context that you can only see by watching the games.

His assist numbers also don't fluctuate that much, with most seasons varying by no more than 1 assists, plus more importantly, your assist numbers aren't necessarily indicative of how often you pass, unless there's a huge variation. You could be making great passes and guys aren't finishing shots. I feel like there was at least 2-3 assists a game during the 2nd threepeat that Rodman or Longley would blow a layup off a nice pass, although Rodman may have done it intentionally to grab his own offensive rebound

[sacking123]

Well it worked with Pippen…so sure


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[LAL1947]

I'd love to see this! Not only would they be a dominant duo that fit together together very well... but it would also be the best possible way to put an end to this nonsensical "Lebron is GOAT" topic. Hierarchies have a way of naturally sorting themselves out in teams, since lesser players instinctively know when they are the beta and have to defer to the alpha. MJ is the alpha, Lebron is the beta, there would be no doubt about that after watching them on the same team.