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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#641 » by blazza18 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:58 am

If Jim Owczarski was any good he'd know a target date of Lopez's return instead of just saying the organisation feels he's on schedule.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#642 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:00 am

blazza18 wrote:If Jim Owczarski was any good he'd know a target date of Lopez's return instead of just saying the organisation feels he's on schedule.


What's he supposed to do with an organization that's notoriously tight lipped?
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Post#643 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:42 am

I find it hilarious how when this ownership group first took over everything seemingly got leaked and everyone complained about it, but now it seems we are one of the tightest lipped organizations in the NBA and everyone still complains about it. Fwiw I don't mind us being tight lipped, sure it can be frustrating as a fan but that's usually a sign of a healthy org. Like the Boogie/Wes signings came out of the blue. The Hill signing & Grayson trade came out of nowhere.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#644 » by blazza18 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:38 am

Just looking for a reporter to do a good job coving our favourite team :dontknow:
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Post#645 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:45 am

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blazza18 wrote:If Jim Owczarski was any good he'd know a target date of Lopez's return instead of just saying the organisation feels he's on schedule.


What's he supposed to do with an organization that's notoriously tight lipped?

It's gotta be written on a white board somewhere.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#646 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:11 pm

raferfenix wrote:If the team sources talking to Jim Owczarski are right about BroLo then the Bucks probably won’t be making any splashy moves for a backup 5.

That article included a lot of good background but here’s the newsworthy bit:

That hope remains, as Lopez has been in Milwaukee and getting in some work on the court at the Sports Science Center, per team video. In December, Budenholzer did not publicly discuss any sort of timeline for a potential return, but the current feeling in the organization is the rehabilitative process has gone great and Lopez is on schedule.


https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2022/01/18/brook-lopez-gets-court-bucks-face-two-nbas-best-week/6561767001/



I don't see any new info in this piece. Ozarski just saw the video clip and wrote a piece with regurgitated info.

He does the least amount of work possible when covering the Bucks.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#647 » by raferfenix » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:19 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:It's gotta be written on a white board somewhere.


Closest thing we've got is the (assuredly authorized) leak to Zach Lowe that: “There’s optimism around the situation that Brook Lopez will be able to return in the regular season before the playoffs.”

I figure that's the reference point to Owczarski's report that "the current feeling in the organization is the rehabilitative process has gone great and Lopez is on schedule."

Sure it'd be great if the organization was more forthcoming about injuries. Considering how little we've gotten as it stands though I'm appreciative for any info that does get relayed.

And for better or worse, Owczarski ended that part of the article with a reference to how the Bucks "elected against guaranteeing Cousins’ contract for the rest of the season and released him on Jan. 6".

Now that implication definitely could just be PR maneuvering against blowback. But if it isn't the best case scenario for why we let Boogie walk is that we are so confidant Brook will be back and ready to play significant minutes sooner rather than later.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#648 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:40 pm

Still don't see why Brook's status has any impact on our ability to go out and sign (or retain) an extra big. The criticisms I have the last 6 months are few and far between, but I don't really get why the organization seems content to run The Franchise into the ground playing heavy minutes at the 5 and with no viable back-up, save for the 17-game breather Boogie gave us. The Semi experiment has been a disaster and we keep trotting out 6'4 wings to play in the frontcourt. At what point do you stop "experimenting" and just accept that not everyone on the roster needs to have postseason value?
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Post#649 » by Siefer » Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:52 pm

A lot of things can be true at the same time. The Bucks might not have a good idea of when/if BroLo will be ready, the Bucks are notoriously controlling of health info, and Owczarski offers very little as a beat guy.
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Post#651 » by tydett » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:04 pm

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Post#652 » by Matches Malone » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:08 pm

Owczarski would rather be covering the NFL. He’s by far the worst Bucks reporter in some time, including his line of questioning. If I watch a presser, I have to fast forward his parts because I can’t stand him bumbling through a 2 minute prologue to get to a dumb question.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#653 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:24 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Still don't see why Brook's status has any impact on our ability to go out and sign (or retain) an extra big. The criticisms I have the last 6 months are few and far between, but I don't really get why the organization seems content to run The Franchise into the ground playing heavy minutes at the 5 and with no viable back-up, save for the 17-game breather Boogie gave us. The Semi experiment has been a disaster and we keep trotting out 6'4 wings to play in the frontcourt. At what point do you stop "experimenting" and just accept that not everyone on the roster needs to have postseason value?

I think we have different definitions of running someone into the ground...
Giannis has missed 1/4 of the games and playing only 32 minutes when he does suit up. (Is he averaging 20 mpg at center? Not sure how to look that up.) Running someone into the ground is when Lakers are trotting 37 year old 6'9" lebron out at the 5 while logging 37 minutes a game. I don't want to model my franchise around the lakers, but they haven't signed Cousins or another big man worth playing either. That says something about the talent level out there.

My gut is they wait out 11 more games until the trade deadline passes and we sign Robin or the equivalent. Who knows, maybe they want Giannis to be more of a center. Guy was freaking dominant downlow in the finals. There might be more wear and tear playing the 5, but also might be less chance of him having a knee injury as well... though I dont think his style of play changes much when playing the 4 vs 5 on offense.
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Post#654 » by KidA24 » Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:47 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
blazza18 wrote:If Jim Owczarski was any good he'd know a target date of Lopez's return instead of just saying the organisation feels he's on schedule.


What's he supposed to do with an organization that's notoriously tight lipped?


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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Wigginton signed to two-way, Smart waived 

Post#659 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:37 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Still don't see why Brook's status has any impact on our ability to go out and sign (or retain) an extra big. The criticisms I have the last 6 months are few and far between, but I don't really get why the organization seems content to run The Franchise into the ground playing heavy minutes at the 5 and with no viable back-up, save for the 17-game breather Boogie gave us. The Semi experiment has been a disaster and we keep trotting out 6'4 wings to play in the frontcourt. At what point do you stop "experimenting" and just accept that not everyone on the roster needs to have postseason value?

I think we have different definitions of running someone into the ground...
Giannis has missed 1/4 of the games and playing only 32 minutes when he does suit up. (Is he averaging 20 mpg at center? Not sure how to look that up.) Running someone into the ground is when Lakers are trotting 37 year old 6'9" lebron out at the 5 while logging 37 minutes a game. I don't want to model my franchise around the lakers, but they haven't signed Cousins or another big man worth playing either. That says something about the talent level out there.

My gut is they wait out 11 more games until the trade deadline passes and we sign Robin or the equivalent. Who knows, maybe they want Giannis to be more of a center. Guy was freaking dominant downlow in the finals. There might be more wear and tear playing the 5, but also might be less chance of him having a knee injury as well... though I dont think his style of play changes much when playing the 4 vs 5 on offense.


Agree that there no extra wear and tear on Giannis. When was the last time we played against a post up center?

I think there's less wear on Giannis when he's guarded by a center, because he beats them off the dribble so cleanly.
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Post#660 » by Chad34 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:15 am

donte is a net negative on this team. He's not a scorer and his best attributes are mitigated by his lack of size. Hopefully horst can con someone into giving us something of value for him

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