Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 2 - Can we get to first place?

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Kia Rookie Ladder: Evan Mobley holds No. 1 spot as season enter 2nd half

1. Evan Mobley, Cleveland Cavaliers

Season stats: 14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.6 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 3.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 1
Draft pick: No. 3 overall

2. Cade Cunningham, Detroit Pistons

Season stats: 15.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 2
Draft pick: No. 1 overall

3. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors

Season stats: 14.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.5 apg
Since last Ladder: 12.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 3
Draft pick: No. 4 overall

4. Franz Wagner, Orlando Magic

Season stats: 15.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.8 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.5 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 4
Draft pick: No. 8 overall

5. Josh Giddey, Oklahoma City Thunder

Season stats: 11.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 6.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 5
Draft pick: No. 6 overall

6. Herbert Jones, New Orleans Pelicans

Season stats: 9.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.9 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 6
Draft pick: No. 35 overall

7. Jalen Green, Houston Rockets

Season stats: 15.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.3 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 7
Draft pick: No. 2 overall

8. Omer Yurtseven, Miami Heat

Season stats: 6.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 17.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.7 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 9
Draft pick: Undrafted (2020)

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Kia Rookie Ladder: Evan Mobley holds No. 1 spot as season enter 2nd half

1. Evan Mobley, Cleveland Cavaliers

Season stats: 14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.6 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 3.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 1
Draft pick: No. 3 overall

2. Cade Cunningham, Detroit Pistons

Season stats: 15.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 2
Draft pick: No. 1 overall

3. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors

Season stats: 14.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.5 apg
Since last Ladder: 12.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 3
Draft pick: No. 4 overall

4. Franz Wagner, Orlando Magic

Season stats: 15.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.8 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.5 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 4
Draft pick: No. 8 overall

5. Josh Giddey, Oklahoma City Thunder

Season stats: 11.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 6.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 5
Draft pick: No. 6 overall

6. Herbert Jones, New Orleans Pelicans

Season stats: 9.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.9 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 6
Draft pick: No. 35 overall

7. Jalen Green, Houston Rockets

Season stats: 15.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.3 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 7
Draft pick: No. 2 overall

8. Omer Yurtseven, Miami Heat

Season stats: 6.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 17.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.7 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 9
Draft pick: Undrafted (2020)

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Proud of yurt. If he got a lot of mins he would be right up towards the top end. Not to mention was undrafted

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Kia Rookie Ladder: Evan Mobley holds No. 1 spot as season enter 2nd half

1. Evan Mobley, Cleveland Cavaliers

Season stats: 14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.6 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 3.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 1
Draft pick: No. 3 overall

2. Cade Cunningham, Detroit Pistons

Season stats: 15.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 2
Draft pick: No. 1 overall

3. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors

Season stats: 14.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.5 apg
Since last Ladder: 12.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 3
Draft pick: No. 4 overall

4. Franz Wagner, Orlando Magic

Season stats: 15.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.8 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.5 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 4
Draft pick: No. 8 overall

5. Josh Giddey, Oklahoma City Thunder

Season stats: 11.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 6.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 5
Draft pick: No. 6 overall

6. Herbert Jones, New Orleans Pelicans

Season stats: 9.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.9 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 6
Draft pick: No. 35 overall

7. Jalen Green, Houston Rockets

Season stats: 15.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.3 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 7
Draft pick: No. 2 overall

8. Omer Yurtseven, Miami Heat

Season stats: 6.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 17.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.7 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 9
Draft pick: Undrafted (2020)

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Proud of yurt. If he got a lot of mins he would be right up towards the top end. Not to mention was undrafted

He would worst case he 4th imo. We find these guys for free pretty much

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Herbert Jones has the makings of a future Heat player.

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JRich smart Horford etc. available. Basically everyone but brown Tatum and Williams

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Smart for Robinson helps both teams tbh.

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Lowry/Smart
Strus/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Yurt or Dedmon

That’s deep and great fits in the 1st and 2nd unit. Martin more than likely falls out of the rotation in the playoffs

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Lowry/Smart
Strus/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Yurt or Dedmon

That’s deep and great fits in the 1st and 2nd unit. Martin more than likely falls out of the rotation in the playoffs

Not a fan of Smart, but that team looks good on paper. And I definitely don't see Martin falling out of the rotation while he's on the team. Plays solid defense, adds athleticism, can hit the 3 pretty consistently .. everything that we want in a wing.

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Lowry/Smart
Strus/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Yurt or Dedmon

That’s deep and great fits in the 1st and 2nd unit. Martin more than likely falls out of the rotation in the playoffs

Not a fan of Smart, but that team looks good on paper. And I definitely don't see Martin falling out of the rotation while he's on the team. Plays solid defense, adds athleticism, can hit the 3 pretty consistently .. everything that we want in a wing.

It would honestly just depend on how deep Spo wants to go. I can’t see him playing over any of those other guys in the 2nd unit.

I hate smart lol but I feel he’s one of those guys you hate when he’s not on your team and love when he is. He’s a Heat guy for sure

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It’s literally our only avenue to improve. He has to go if we want to get better.

In the short term yes, but long term no. If a whale comes available this off season, let's say Donavan Mitchell, We would need Duncan's salary to make it work. That is a very valuable contract and we should not just use it to trade for a bench player when you can use it for a star.

If Duncan can get hot in the playoffs, he is way more valuable than anyone we can get for him straight up right now.

I think we ride it out with Duncan, It's not like we don't have any other shooters right now. We have Struss and to a lesser degree Martin and Vincent. There is no question Duncan needs a change of scenery but the timing just doesn't suit us right now. Moving him in the off season can get us much more in return.

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It’s literally our only avenue to improve. He has to go if we want to get better.

In the short term yes, but long term no. If a whale comes available this off season, let's say Donavan Mitchell, We would need Duncan's salary to make it work. That is a very valuable contract and we should not just use it to trade for a bench player when you can use it for a star.

If Duncan can get hot in the playoffs, he is way more valuable than anyone we can get for him straight up right now.

I think we ride it out with Duncan, It's not like we don't have any other shooters right now. We have Struss and to a lesser degree Martin and Vincent. There is no question Duncan needs a change of scenery but the timing just doesn't suit us right now. Moving him in the off season can get us much more in return.

This Is a good point and also wouldn’t surprise me. I think Mitchell’s time with the Jazz is up within the next year or 2, maybe even this offseason.

Robinson Herro and Tucker with picks would match salary and assets I would say.

Lowry
Mitchell
Jimmy
Martin/Strus
Bam

Or we go big like some want:

Lowry
Mitchell
Jimmy
Bam
Yurt

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JRich smart Horford etc. available. Basically everyone but brown Tatum and Williams

Hell nah lmao

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Lowry/Smart
Strus/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Yurt or Dedmon

That’s deep and great fits in the 1st and 2nd unit. Martin more than likely falls out of the rotation in the playoffs

Why do we need Smart?

per 75 poss
Smart 12.7 PTS | 4.4 TRB | 5.8 AST | 2.4 stocks | 30.4% 3P
Vincent 15.3 PTS | 3.4 TRB | 4.8 AST | 2.0 stocks | 38.6% 3P

And Caleb should definitely see PT in the playoffs. He's probably our best 3&D player after PJ and he has good handles.

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Kia Rookie Ladder: Evan Mobley holds No. 1 spot as season enter 2nd half

1. Evan Mobley, Cleveland Cavaliers

Season stats: 14.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.6 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 3.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 1
Draft pick: No. 3 overall

2. Cade Cunningham, Detroit Pistons

Season stats: 15.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 15.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 2
Draft pick: No. 1 overall

3. Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors

Season stats: 14.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.5 apg
Since last Ladder: 12.0 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.0 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 3
Draft pick: No. 4 overall

4. Franz Wagner, Orlando Magic

Season stats: 15.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.8 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 5.5 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 4
Draft pick: No. 8 overall

5. Josh Giddey, Oklahoma City Thunder

Season stats: 11.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 6.4 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.5 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 5
Draft pick: No. 6 overall

6. Herbert Jones, New Orleans Pelicans

Season stats: 9.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.9 apg
Since last Ladder: 14.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 6
Draft pick: No. 35 overall

7. Jalen Green, Houston Rockets

Season stats: 15.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 3.3 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 7
Draft pick: No. 2 overall

8. Omer Yurtseven, Miami Heat

Season stats: 6.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.2 apg
Since last Ladder: 17.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 3.7 apg
Last Ladder’s rung: 9
Draft pick: Undrafted (2020)

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Love that recent line by Yurt. He keeps that up for half a season and he's an allstar. Imagine benching a guy playing like an allstar.

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JRich smart Horford etc. available. Basically everyone but brown Tatum and Williams

Hell nah lmao

We need a backup 4 for our soon to be 37 year old Tucker and the fanbase keeps trading for more guards with Dipo around the corner and 6’5 200 pound Martin forced to play out of position as the current backup 4. Smdh

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JRich smart Horford etc. available. Basically everyone but brown Tatum and Williams

Hell nah lmao

We need a backup 4 for our soon to be 37 year old Tucker and the fanbase keeps trading for more guards with Dipo around the corner and 6’5 200 pound Martin forced to play out of position as the current backup 4. Smdh

Hey I’ve been clamoring for Barnes wood Turner and Grant all season

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JRich smart Horford etc. available. Basically everyone but brown Tatum and Williams

Hell nah lmao

I’m just here to share the new brother, don’t shoot the messenger

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Lowry/Smart
Strus/Dipo
Jimmy/Herro
Tucker/Martin
Bam/Yurt or Dedmon

That’s deep and great fits in the 1st and 2nd unit. Martin more than likely falls out of the rotation in the playoffs

Why do we need Smart?

per 75 poss
Smart 12.7 PTS | 4.4 TRB | 5.8 AST | 2.4 stocks | 30.4% 3P
Vincent 15.3 PTS | 3.4 TRB | 4.8 AST | 2.0 stocks | 38.6% 3P

And Caleb should definitely see PT in the playoffs. He's probably our best 3&D player after PJ and he has good handles.

I just don’t trust some of these young guys in the playoffs, Martin to a lesser extent than Gabe though.

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JRich smart Horford etc. available. Basically everyone but brown Tatum and Williams

Hell nah lmao

We need a backup 4 for our soon to be 37 year old Tucker and the fanbase keeps trading for more guards with Dipo around the corner and 6’5 200 pound Martin forced to play out of position as the current backup 4. Smdh

Agreed, any trade needs to be bringing back a back up 4 or a good enough player to become a starting 4.

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Maybe they view Morris as the backup 4, I personally don’t think he should crack the rotation if he ever comes back. Or maybe the like Martin there idk. Where does martin play other than there if we’re at full strength? A consolidation trade has to happen.