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RandlesCornrows wrote:Fox is available and we certainly have tons of assets, so I’d be shocked if Leon isn’t involved. We got two point guards that’s broken down. Acquiring Fox would give us that big step forward for sure. Obviously he’s a poor shooter, but he’s someone that can score 25ppg and run an offense. Would be our best PG since who? Clyde?
Question is would the Kings want Randle or Obi as a starting piece. Are they still looking to rebuild or want to compete. I think Leon is committed to Randle and with a point guard like Fox, Randle becomes extremely valuable since De’Aaron is ball dominate.
randle wont become valuable u bugging Randle's dumb ass needs to go in that trade
I’d assume guys like Obi Toppin, Quentin Grimes, Mitchell Robinson, IQ, Miles McBride, multiple picks, even Randle would be discussed in a deal. Not all together but 2/3 pieced together. I’d want to keep Q Grimes the most cause he’s that piece that would be MASSIVE in a playoff series so keeping him out is absolutely necessary, but I can see the kings being all over Grimes to replace Buddy.
But keeping Randle with a core of:
Julius Randle
De’Aaron Fox
R.J. Barrett
Cam Reddish
Quentin Grimes/Immanuel Quickley (assuming one is dealt)
After a deal would be pretty damn legit surrounded with 3&D role players. Since these guys are not even near their prime except Randle, and not sure if Fox is still peaking. That’s a team that can compete for a long time.
Honestly I feel we’re the perfect trade target for anyone willing to trade their star to I feel confident a trade for Fox will happen.
Spree2Houston wrote:Ask for Davion Mitchell. The guy who will be the best of the trio
Jay10 wrote:People want to get rid of Randle, and at the same time want the shorter version of him in Fox?
You should be asking yourself why a second year player in Haliburton and a rookie in Mitchell were picked when they just gave Fox a $100M+ extension if the organization had faith in him as a player.
Speed only serves a purpose in the regular season, but when the games really matter he's going to get exposed in the half court for not being able to shoot, the same way Russell Westbrook has been getting exposed over the years.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
nedleeds wrote:Jay10 wrote:People want to get rid of Randle, and at the same time want the shorter version of him in Fox?
You should be asking yourself why a second year player in Haliburton and a rookie in Mitchell were picked when they just gave Fox a $100M+ extension if the organization had faith in him as a player.
Speed only serves a purpose in the regular season, but when the games really matter he's going to get exposed in the half court for not being able to shoot, the same way Russell Westbrook has been getting exposed over the years.
It's not their fault. Nobody watches Kings games or looks at his numbers. He's shooting 25% from 3. Makes Quickley look like Ray Allen from 3. As horrific as IQs floater has been so far and his 2 point shooting he's still better than Fox.
Even if he isn't better, IQ is 2 years younger and makes $6.4 million over the next *TWO* years.
Fox will make $63 million over those 2 years ... LOL.
robillionaire wrote:death, taxes, and the Knicks not having a PG.
robillionaire wrote:nedleeds wrote:Jay10 wrote:People want to get rid of Randle, and at the same time want the shorter version of him in Fox?
You should be asking yourself why a second year player in Haliburton and a rookie in Mitchell were picked when they just gave Fox a $100M+ extension if the organization had faith in him as a player.
Speed only serves a purpose in the regular season, but when the games really matter he's going to get exposed in the half court for not being able to shoot, the same way Russell Westbrook has been getting exposed over the years.
It's not their fault. Nobody watches Kings games or looks at his numbers. He's shooting 25% from 3. Makes Quickley look like Ray Allen from 3. As horrific as IQs floater has been so far and his 2 point shooting he's still better than Fox.
Even if he isn't better, IQ is 2 years younger and makes $6.4 million over the next *TWO* years.
Fox will make $63 million over those 2 years ... LOL.
IQ is the best free throw shooter in the NBA (or close to it) so it will make stats like efg% and ts% greatly inflated, clearly he is not anywhere near fox around the rim or just raw fg% and 2pt% and this is very misleading
Chanel Bomber wrote:robillionaire wrote:nedleeds wrote:It's not their fault. Nobody watches Kings games or looks at his numbers. He's shooting 25% from 3. Makes Quickley look like Ray Allen from 3. As horrific as IQs floater has been so far and his 2 point shooting he's still better than Fox.
Even if he isn't better, IQ is 2 years younger and makes $6.4 million over the next *TWO* years.
Fox will make $63 million over those 2 years ... LOL.
IQ is the best free throw shooter in the NBA (or close to it) so it will make stats like efg% and ts% greatly inflated, clearly he is not anywhere near fox around the rim or just raw fg% and 2pt% and this is very misleading
The point of TS% is specifically to incorporate free throws and threes.
Two free throws made (which is basically an IQ trip to the line) are essentially a made basket. That counts for something.
There's nothing misleading or inflating about going to the line and converting your free throws. It ends a possession, same as a Fox lay-up at the basket or a Fox brick.
TerrenceClarke wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:robillionaire wrote:
IQ is the best free throw shooter in the NBA (or close to it) so it will make stats like efg% and ts% greatly inflated, clearly he is not anywhere near fox around the rim or just raw fg% and 2pt% and this is very misleading
The point of TS% is specifically to incorporate free throws and threes.
Two free throws made (which is basically an IQ trip to the line) are essentially a made basket. That counts for something.
There's nothing misleading or inflating about going to the line and converting your free throws. It ends a possession, same as a Fox lay-up at the basket or a Fox brick.
Bro. You know what the overall point here with that is tho. IQ is not in the same league as Fox as player period. If you even try to act like IQ is a better NBA Player than Fox I might can't take you serious no more in your analysis.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
Chanel Bomber wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:The point of TS% is specifically to incorporate free throws and threes.
Two free throws made (which is basically an IQ trip to the line) are essentially a made basket. That counts for something.
There's nothing misleading or inflating about going to the line and converting your free throws. It ends a possession, same as a Fox lay-up at the basket or a Fox brick.
Bro. You know what the overall point here with that is tho. IQ is not in the same league as Fox as player period. If you even try to act like IQ is a better NBA Player than Fox I might can't take you serious no more in your analysis.
I don't know what the bigger point is, when people make the argument that free throws inflate TS%, when the point of TS% is precisely to integrate FTs (and 3s).
I didn't say that IQ is better than Fox.
What I do know is that he's $153 million cheaper, and that neither player has been a difference-maker in the NBA.
I prefer my inefficient on-ball guards to be cheap and not take up 25% of the cap is all.
Fox so far hasn't proven to drive winning as an on-ball player despite having elite 3-point shooters around him, and his numbers suggest that he can't be effective in an off-ball role. I'm not committing 25% of my cap for the next 4.5 years to a player I hope one day will figure it out and impact winning. That's not a reasonable or smart gamble at all in my opinion.
