Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late

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What sort of suspension should the coach receive?

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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#41 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:38 am

HomoSapien wrote:I mean in a one point loss for the Wizards, that's just an egregious no-call. I don't know what the best way to rectify it is. At the very least, you have to fine that coach. If I'm the Wizards, I'm at least petitioning to replay 14 seconds of the game (with the Wizards ball) with a chance to ultimately win the game again. I believe that was done once about ten years ago (with maybe the Hawks and Pacers if I'm remembering correctly)?


Looks like it was the Hawks and Heat. Here's a recap:

During overtime, the Heat’s Shaquille O’Neal, who by then was basically an oil tanker in a basketball jersey, was called for his sixth foul of the night, disqualifying him from participating in the final 51.9 seconds of the game. Shaq sat down, Al Horford hit two free throws to put the Hawks up 114-111, and that was that. Shortly thereafter, the game was over and the Hawks had won 117-111. It turned out, though, that a bookkeeping error had accidentally attributed a fourth-quarter Udonis Haslem foul to Shaq, giving him one more than he really had, meaning really he had only five fouls and should’ve been able to play that 51.9 seconds when he was forced to sit.

The Heat filed a protest afterward, which was upheld by the NBA several weeks later in January. As such, it was ruled that the Heat and Hawks would replay the final 51.9 seconds of the game when they met again in Atlanta for another Hawks-Heat game on March 8, 2008.


https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/3/7/17088350/atlanta-hawks-miami-heat-replay-nba-game-march-8-2008

To me, a version of that seems like the fairest solution here.
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#42 » by KembaWalker » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:40 am

Normally I'd hate that a team like the Nets get away with cheating like this but the middle of the pack in the east is too bloody rn. Good defense imo
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#43 » by Slacktard » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:45 am

HomoSapien wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I mean in a one point loss for the Wizards, that's just an egregious no-call. I don't know what the best way to rectify it is. At the very least, you have to fine that coach. If I'm the Wizards, I'm at least petitioning to replay 14 seconds of the game (with the Wizards ball) with a chance to ultimately win the game again. I believe that was done once about ten years ago (with maybe the Hawks and Pacers if I'm remembering correctly)?


Looks like it was the Hawks and Heat. Here's a recap:

During overtime, the Heat’s Shaquille O’Neal, who by then was basically an oil tanker in a basketball jersey, was called for his sixth foul of the night, disqualifying him from participating in the final 51.9 seconds of the game. Shaq sat down, Al Horford hit two free throws to put the Hawks up 114-111, and that was that. Shortly thereafter, the game was over and the Hawks had won 117-111. It turned out, though, that a bookkeeping error had accidentally attributed a fourth-quarter Udonis Haslem foul to Shaq, giving him one more than he really had, meaning really he had only five fouls and should’ve been able to play that 51.9 seconds when he was forced to sit.

The Heat filed a protest afterward, which was upheld by the NBA several weeks later in January. As such, it was ruled that the Heat and Hawks would replay the final 51.9 seconds of the game when they met again in Atlanta for another Hawks-Heat game on March 8, 2008.


https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/3/7/17088350/atlanta-hawks-miami-heat-replay-nba-game-march-8-2008

To me, a version of that seems like the fairest solution here.


I think the difference is that wasn't a 'missed call' it was an incorrectly filed/applied rule by officials or scorekeepers. I think those are able to be protested. The referee missing the coach having touched the ball is like missing a player stepping out of bounds with the ball.
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#44 » by deneem4 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:49 am

HomoSapien wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I mean in a one point loss for the Wizards, that's just an egregious no-call. I don't know what the best way to rectify it is. At the very least, you have to fine that coach. If I'm the Wizards, I'm at least petitioning to replay 14 seconds of the game (with the Wizards ball) with a chance to ultimately win the game again. I believe that was done once about ten years ago (with maybe the Hawks and Pacers if I'm remembering correctly)?


Looks like it was the Hawks and Heat. Here's a recap:

During overtime, the Heat’s Shaquille O’Neal, who by then was basically an oil tanker in a basketball jersey, was called for his sixth foul of the night, disqualifying him from participating in the final 51.9 seconds of the game. Shaq sat down, Al Horford hit two free throws to put the Hawks up 114-111, and that was that. Shortly thereafter, the game was over and the Hawks had won 117-111. It turned out, though, that a bookkeeping error had accidentally attributed a fourth-quarter Udonis Haslem foul to Shaq, giving him one more than he really had, meaning really he had only five fouls and should’ve been able to play that 51.9 seconds when he was forced to sit.

The Heat filed a protest afterward, which was upheld by the NBA several weeks later in January. As such, it was ruled that the Heat and Hawks would replay the final 51.9 seconds of the game when they met again in Atlanta for another Hawks-Heat game on March 8, 2008.


https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/3/7/17088350/atlanta-hawks-miami-heat-replay-nba-game-march-8-2008

To me, a version of that seems like the fairest solution here.


Great find, but a booking error vs physical interference
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#45 » by GSP » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:49 am

DISGRACEFUL

A Kyrie Harden backcourt is so atrocious on defense that their assistance coaches have to cheat to get 'stops" lmaoooooo
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Post#46 » by AbeVigodaLive » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:50 am

Did Washington already use their review? Did they use it later?
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Post#47 » by deneem4 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:51 am

[/quote]
I think the difference is that wasn't a 'missed call' it was an incorrectly filed/applied rule by officials or scorekeepers. I think those are able to be protested. The referee missing the coach having touched the ball is like missing a player stepping out of bounds with the ball.[/quote]

The coach a tipped the ball out of a players hand, the floor can’t warp to put a player out of bounds
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#48 » by KembaWalker » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:55 am

Replaying the end for a scorers error doesn't surprise me but replaying an ending for a missed referee call is a can of worms the league would NEVER open
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#49 » by Slacktard » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:55 am

deneem4 wrote:

I think the difference is that wasn't a 'missed call' it was an incorrectly filed/applied rule by officials or scorekeepers. I think those are able to be protested. The referee missing the coach having touched the ball is like missing a player stepping out of bounds with the ball.[/quote]

The coach a tipped the ball out of a players hand, the floor can’t warp to put a player out of bounds[/quote]

Referees can make horrible calls/noncalls, not see what everyone else sees.
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#50 » by Dupp » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:58 am

“Video not available in your country” dunno why utoob is like this.

Anyway if it’s as said in the op nets should lose the game and the coach should be suspended from being on the sidelines for a long time. 20 games minimum.
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#51 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:00 am

KembaWalker wrote:Replaying the end for a scorers error doesn't surprise me but replaying an ending for a missed referee call is a can of worms the league would NEVER open


To me, this isn't about the missed call it's about essentially rectifying the act of cheating. It should be more about sending a message to the coaching staff/Nets than punishing a ref. Missed calls happen, but deciding to stick your hand out there to disrupt a play is a choice.
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#52 » by CptCrunch » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:03 am

HomoSapien wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Replaying the end for a scorers error doesn't surprise me but replaying an ending for a missed referee call is a can of worms the league would NEVER open


To me, this isn't about the missed call it's about essentially rectifying the act of cheating. It should be more about sending a message to the coaching staff/Nets than punishing a ref. Missed calls happen, but deciding to stick your hand out there to disrupt a play is a choice.


This is far from cheating. This is still a missed call. An incorrect assignment of player who last touched the ball. In this case it would likely be a technical + possession. Might issue a double technical or something then possession since this is just next level bad.

Cheating would be not counting made basket in the case of Harden's dunk getting not scored deliberately.
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Post#53 » by Ckay » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:03 am

Dupp wrote:“Video not available in your country” dunno why utoob is like this.

Anyway if it’s as said in the op nets should lose the game and the coach should be suspended from being on the sidelines for a long time. 20 games minimum.

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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#54 » by Dupp » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:03 am

Slacktard wrote:
deneem4 wrote:

I think the difference is that wasn't a 'missed call' it was an incorrectly filed/applied rule by officials or scorekeepers. I think those are able to be protested. The referee missing the coach having touched the ball is like missing a player stepping out of bounds with the ball.


The coach a tipped the ball out of a players hand, the floor can’t warp to put a player out of bounds[/quote]

Referees can make horrible calls/noncalls, not see what everyone else sees.
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This isn’t a missed call it’s blatant cheating. Everyone that’s ever played basketball at any level knows it’s not possible to miss that call.

A lot of dodgy stuff in the rockets vs warriors playoffs series
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#55 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:05 am

CptCrunch wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:Replaying the end for a scorers error doesn't surprise me but replaying an ending for a missed referee call is a can of worms the league would NEVER open


To me, this isn't about the missed call it's about essentially rectifying the act of cheating. It should be more about sending a message to the coaching staff/Nets than punishing a ref. Missed calls happen, but deciding to stick your hand out there to disrupt a play is a choice.


This is far from cheating. This is still a missed call. An incorrect assignment of player who last touched the ball. In this case it would likely be a technical + possession.

Cheating would be not counting made basket in the case of Harden's dunk getting not scored deliberately.


I don't have a dog in this race, but I don't see how it's far from cheating. There's no world, where an assistant coach should be purposely interfering with the game. It's not like he accidentally stuck his hand out and interfered in the play. He knew exactly what he was doing, and got away with it because he wasn't caught.
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Re: Nets Assistant Steals The Ball Late 

Post#56 » by Chinook » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:05 am

The way you fix it is by basically black-balling that coach, not by replaying the game. If it were the last couple seconds and obviously flipped the score, that's one thing. That's not what happened here. This is basic cheating, and like with most cheating in the NBA, the results stand and the perpetrator gets the punishment. Basically let it be known that cheating will cost you your job and income so no one tries it again.
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Post#57 » by deneem4 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:16 am

Dupp wrote:
Slacktard wrote:
deneem4 wrote:

I think the difference is that wasn't a 'missed call' it was an incorrectly filed/applied rule by officials or scorekeepers. I think those are able to be protested. The referee missing the coach having touched the ball is like missing a player stepping out of bounds with the ball.


The coach a tipped the ball out of a players hand, the floor can’t warp to put a player out of bounds


Referees can make horrible calls/noncalls, not see what everyone else sees.
[/quote]



This isn’t a missed call it’s blatant cheating. Everyone that’s ever played basketball at any level knows it’s not possible to miss that call.

A lot of dodgy stuff in the rockets vs warriors playoffs series[/quote]


That’s the refs deciding what call to make, that happens, obviously not to that extreme with Durant, he was clearly out, but someone….refs didn’t make the call….but someone INTERFERES in this play….it’s a huge difference
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Post#58 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:17 am

Ben Taylor isn't competent. Give him his walking papers. Asst coach needs to be suspended for a long time.

That is so bush league it makes the NBA look like a joke compared to the NFL.
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Post#59 » by deneem4 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:19 am

a coach on an nfl sideline tipped a catch out of a players hand and the refs didn’t call it, resulting in an interception…..
That’s a missed call?
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Post#60 » by 7 Footer » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:23 am

And the refs didnt even review it LOL
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