Official Trade Thread - Part XLII

[Ruzious]

Not sure how we get in on this one? Guess it doesn't matter if the Sixers aren't interested? And would we do this?

Washington: Haliburton, Hield, Barnes + 2 firsts
Philly: Beal, Bertans, Bagley, Harrell
Sacramento: Harris, Simmons, Thybulle

I'd do it if those picks are Sac's 2022 and 2024 picks.

I'd like it even more if we could flip Barnes to a 3rd team in exchange for more picks.

Any chance we could end up with Thybulle and leave Barnes with Sacramento?

[gambitx777]

I don't understand what DM is thinking. Like if some of these offers are real? How on earth have they not jumped on them?

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[dckingsfan]

Not sure how we get in on this one? Guess it doesn't matter if the Sixers aren't interested? And would we do this?

Washington: Haliburton, Hield, Barnes + 2 firsts
Philly: Beal, Bertans, Bagley, Harrell
Sacramento: Harris, Simmons, Thybulle

I'd do it if those picks are Sac's 2022 and 2024 picks.

I'd like it even more if we could flip Barnes to a 3rd team in exchange for more picks.

Any chance we could end up with Thybulle and leave Barnes with Sacramento?

Yeah, it would be nice to be able to add a 4th team that needs Barnes although I wouldn't mind seeing Barnes playing with Kuzma.

[9 and 20]

Send Bert to one of the contenders who will talk themselves into his shooting being an asset. Lakers, maybe Dallas, maybe Philly. Just get him gone. Guy had one skill and then proceeded to pound too many half smokes, got hurt and out of shape, and now can't shoot anymore. Boo this man.

A little upset about the loss to Fats Harden and moon man Kyrie Irving. Nets are all turds, including their devious coach Vanterpool. That man was my hero and took a dump all over us. He came to us when Chris Whiteny sprained both ankles, both wrists, both shoulders, etc. Saved the day (kinda). And now poops all over us. Damn Vanterpool. Ice cold.

[thinker07]

As I ponder the situation, I am becoming more confident that the play that Shep is trying to pull off is going all in for Sabonis. Certainly Deni, probably Harrell or Bryant either directly or to a third team for a pick that goes to Indiana. Maybe one other asset. I could see Kuz somehow being involved if the Wiz think Sabonis will mostly play PF. Maybe Rui.

I'm not saying I think it's a good play, or proposing what I think would be a fair trade -- Just that I think this is what the Wiz would like to do.

[Silvie Lysandra]

i would trade beal for sabonis before i'd trade deni for sabonis

[Frichuela]

As I ponder the situation, I am becoming more confident that the play that Shep is trying to pull off is going all in for Sabonis. Certainly Deni, probably Harrell or Bryant either directly or to a third team for a pick that goes to Indiana. Maybe one other asset. I could see Kuz somehow being involved if the Wiz think Sabonis will mostly play PF. Maybe Rui.

I'm not saying I think it's a good play, or proposing what I think would be a fair trade -- Just that I think this is what the Wiz would like to do.

Yes. It appears to be the case…Let’s see how much Sabonis costs if Tommy pulls it off…

For what is worth, Sabonis was instrumental in IND’s defeat of the Lakers last night: 20 pts, 12 reb and 10 ass on 9/12 shooting including 2/2 from 3…

[Frichuela]

A few IND fans in social media are requesting a package around Kuzma+Rui in a hypothetical trade for Sabonis. In Mayo’s latest pod, some IND pundit asked for the same package…

[gambitx777]

A few IND fans in social media are requesting a package around Kuzma+Rui in a hypothetical trade for Sabonis. In Mayo’s latest pod, some IND pundit asked for the same package…

At this point I'm not trading Kuz.

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[9 and 20]

Sabonis for Rui and Kuzma is a no brainer.

I'd like to see Tommy try to trade the three guys from the Lakers for as many picks as possible. Kuzma's minutes can be taken by Deni and Rui and I don't think we'd lose much, if anything. KCP's minutes can be taken by Kispert. And Bryant and Gafford plus Gill when necessary can play center. If Tommy can get two first round picks, he can either use them in the draft or use them in a trade for Grant, Sabonis, or whoever else.

[keynote]

A few IND fans in social media are requesting a package around Kuzma+Rui in a hypothetical trade for Sabonis. In Mayo’s latest pod, some IND pundit asked for the same package…

Any trade for Sabonis has to include one of our centers going back.

[payitforward]

Not sure how we get in on this one? Guess it doesn't matter if the Sixers aren't interested? And would we do this?

Washington: Haliburton, Hield, Barnes + 2 firsts
Philly: Beal, Bertans, Bagley, Harrell
Sacramento: Harris, Simmons, Thybulle

I'd do it if those picks are Sac's 2022 and 2024 picks.

I'd like it even more if we could flip Barnes to a 3rd team in exchange for more picks.

Any chance we could end up with Thybulle and leave Barnes with Sacramento?

Do you think Sac'to would give us Haliburton & 2 R1 picks for Beal straight up? Doesn't seem super likely to me given the season Brad is having & the need to supermax him in a few months.

Maybe I'm wrong...? But, if I'm right, then obviously Harrell doesn't add a whole lot of value in the trade, b/c he is expiring. & Bertans substantially detracts from the value we'd be sending out.

OTOH, if Sac'to is really under pressure to do something "major," then I wonder what they actually would give us for Beal. &... would acquiring Beal be enough incentive for them to let go of Haliburton...?

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

[Ruzious]

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

A helluvalot more would have to go to Washington in order for it to make any sense for Washington. Don't ya think?

[dckingsfan]

Not sure how we get in on this one? Guess it doesn't matter if the Sixers aren't interested? And would we do this?

Washington: Haliburton, Hield, Barnes + 2 firsts
Philly: Beal, Bertans, Bagley, Harrell
Sacramento: Harris, Simmons, Thybulle

I'd do it if those picks are Sac's 2022 and 2024 picks.

I'd like it even more if we could flip Barnes to a 3rd team in exchange for more picks.

Any chance we could end up with Thybulle and leave Barnes with Sacramento?

Do you think Sac'to would give us Haliburton & 2 R1 picks for Beal straight up? Doesn't seem super likely to me given the season Brad is having & the need to supermax him in a few months.

Maybe I'm wrong...? But, if I'm right, then obviously Harrell doesn't add a whole lot of value in the trade, b/c he is expiring. & Bertans substantially detracts from the value we'd be sending out.

OTOH, if Sac'to is really under pressure to do something "major," then I wonder what they actually would give us for Beal. &... would acquiring Beal be enough incentive for them to let go of Haliburton...?

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

I think no to Beal and Sac - I don't think Sac thinks they could sign Beal in the off-season. Hence why it needs to be 3 teams.

[Ruzious]

I'd do it if those picks are Sac's 2022 and 2024 picks.

I'd like it even more if we could flip Barnes to a 3rd team in exchange for more picks.

Any chance we could end up with Thybulle and leave Barnes with Sacramento?

Do you think Sac'to would give us Haliburton & 2 R1 picks for Beal straight up? Doesn't seem super likely to me given the season Brad is having & the need to supermax him in a few months.

Maybe I'm wrong...? But, if I'm right, then obviously Harrell doesn't add a whole lot of value in the trade, b/c he is expiring. & Bertans substantially detracts from the value we'd be sending out.

OTOH, if Sac'to is really under pressure to do something "major," then I wonder what they actually would give us for Beal. &... would acquiring Beal be enough incentive for them to let go of Haliburton...?

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

I think no to Beal and Sac - I don't think Sac thinks they could sign Beal in the off-season. Hence why it needs to be 3 teams.

Agreed. What do you think of Terence Davis? He had a helluva game in Hali's absence last night and has some pretty good stats this season.

[payitforward]

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

A helluvalot more would have to go to Washington in order for it to make any sense for Washington. Don't ya think?

In a sense, obviously, as for us the trade is only about acquiring Haliburton. & the "more" would be picks, obviously.

OTOH, as just pointed out, Beal brings a risk -- can he be re-signed? -- which lowers his value in a trade (in truth... this might have to be worked out in advance for any trade to be possible).

[Andrew McCeltic]

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

A helluvalot more would have to go to Washington in order for it to make any sense for Washington. Don't ya think?

If you get 2 unprotected Sacramento 1sts (!! they're dumb enough to do it) and keep Rui, Hield/Barnes/Hali is a decent return for Beal. The picks and Hali are a big return, Barnes is a good short-term piece. Hield's an issue, but it's possible his market changes in a year or two if his percentages go up. It just throws off your roster construction, too many guards.

[Ruzious]

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

A helluvalot more would have to go to Washington in order for it to make any sense for Washington. Don't ya think?

If you get 2 unprotected Sacramento 1sts (!! they're dumb enough to do it) and keep Rui, Hield/Barnes/Hali is a decent return for Beal. The picks and Hali are a big return, Barnes is a good short-term piece. Hield's an issue, but it's possible his market changes in a year or two if his percentages go up. It just throws off your roster construction, too many guards.

As was said, it'd have to be a 3-team trade - with Beal going to another team.

[dckingsfan]

Do you think Sac'to would give us Haliburton & 2 R1 picks for Beal straight up? Doesn't seem super likely to me given the season Brad is having & the need to supermax him in a few months.

Maybe I'm wrong...? But, if I'm right, then obviously Harrell doesn't add a whole lot of value in the trade, b/c he is expiring. & Bertans substantially detracts from the value we'd be sending out.

OTOH, if Sac'to is really under pressure to do something "major," then I wonder what they actually would give us for Beal. &... would acquiring Beal be enough incentive for them to let go of Haliburton...?

If they sent us Haliburton, Barnes & Bagley, & we sent them Beal, Hachimura & Gill (just to make it 3 for 3 -- no roster shuffling), what else would have to be attached, & in which direction?

I think no to Beal and Sac - I don't think Sac thinks they could sign Beal in the off-season. Hence why it needs to be 3 teams.

Agreed. What do you think of Terence Davis? He had a helluva game in Hali's absence last night and has some pretty good stats this season.

Puzzled. It started off soooo poorly but this month he looks brilliant. I really can't figure him out.

[Andrew McCeltic]

A helluvalot more would have to go to Washington in order for it to make any sense for Washington. Don't ya think?

If you get 2 unprotected Sacramento 1sts (!! they're dumb enough to do it) and keep Rui, Hield/Barnes/Hali is a decent return for Beal. The picks and Hali are a big return, Barnes is a good short-term piece. Hield's an issue, but it's possible his market changes in a year or two if his percentages go up. It just throws off your roster construction, too many guards.

As was said, it'd have to be a 3-team trade - with Beal going to another team.

Yeah I thought it was a Beal to Philly, Ben to SAC scenario..