2022 NBA Draft Thread – (June 23rd, 8PM, ESPN)

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you want shooters?

This guy shoots it this well - and this footage was when he was only 17 yrs old, playing pro ball in Europe..

Watch on YouTube

Will likely still be there in the 2nd round..

[playa-hater]

For the early birds on prospects.

Haven't watched anyone.. But with a list and college games rolling I may start,


https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

[GoGreen]

Might have to start looking at who's avbl at 14-17 if this crap keeps up. Yeesh.

[neno]

Jean montero my pick 4 now fits need good 2way ceiling

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Jean montero my pick 4 now fits need good 2way ceiling

I like Montero.

There's 4 PGs who could potentially go in the lottery (Montero, Tyty Washington, JD Davison, Kennedy Chandler). Montero is the best of the 4, IMO. He's still only 18 yrs old so very young, will need some time to adjust to NBA game but could definitely develop into a star PG in the league.

[Hal14]

Since we clearly need some shooting, here's some of the better shooters in the 2022 draft...

Jabari Smith Jr
Hyunjung Lee
Julian Champagnie
Ochai Agbaji
Michael Devoe
Tyty Washington
AJ Griffin
Fedor Zugic

Or we keep developing some of the shooters we have in-house: Hauser, Nesmith, Pritchard, Grant W, Tatum, Brown

[playa-hater]

Since we clearly need some shooting, here's some of the better shooters in the 2022 draft...

Jabari Smith Jr
Hyunjung Lee
Julian Champagnie
Ochai Agbaji
Michael Devoe
Tyty Washington
AJ Griffin
Fedor Zugic

Or we keep developing some of the shooters we have in-house: Hauser, Nesmith, Pritchard, Grant W

or both!

[Larry_Russell]

Some interesting propects to watch for

Jordan Hall (Kyle Anderson type) 6-7 220lbs sg-sf
Mocked late first early second round
15.5ppg
6.5 rpg
6.5 apg
1.5 spg
36% from 3
40% from 2

Watch on YouTube

Not fast or athletic but gets the job done. Very steady player. Composed



Dyson Daniels (murray/Brogdon type)- 6-6 190lbs SG
Mocked late first early second round
13 ppg
7.5 rpg
5 apg
2 steals
48%
30% from 3....ouch

Watch on YouTube

Great athlete, great defense, very nice at going downhill and posting up, good rebounder, good passer, developing shot



Wendell Moore 6-6, 220lbs 6-10 wingspan
15 ppg
5.5 rpg
4.5 apg
1.5 spg
56%
41% from 3

Watch on YouTube

A do it all wing with great athleticism and size Projected late 1st round

[GoGreen]

So, Cs traded their 1st round pick last yr. That means we have to keep or swap this year, right? Is it possible to draft a player and THEN trade him?

[Smart2Nesmith43]

So, Cs traded their 1st round pick last yr. That means we have to keep or swap this year, right? Is it possible to draft a player and THEN trade him?

No the Stepien rule is only forward looking. What happened last year is no longer relevant, the Celtics can do whatever they want with their pick. Basically the rule is that you can't have 0 first round picks in consecutive future drafts.

A much better breakdown of the Stepien rule that I can manage: https://basketball.realgm.com/article/249279/CBA-Encyclopedia-Stepien-Rule

[Larry_Russell]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4592187/wendell-moore-jr

The improvements in Wendell's career to date are spectacular.

His highschool scouting report

Moore has fine size at just over 6-5, but he has a massive wingspan that stretches to 7 feet. A defensive minded wing prospect, Moore is a good athlete that plays the game with toughness and physicality. He is loaded with potential on the defensive end, and he can guard multiple positions. Gives great effort on that side of the ball. Offensively, Moore is at his best as a slasher. He finishes well at the rim and is particularly good in transition. He’s a fairly good passer. The next step is developing as a shooter/scorer. He has shown signs, but he has to get much more consistent shooting from 3-point range. Moore is a multi-year college prospect.

Athletic Background
Wendell Moore is a 6-5, 210-pound Small Forward from Concord, NC.

Now he makes 41% of his three while shooting 3.5 per game

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/wendall-moore-jr/

Wendall Moore Jr is a solid all around player who gives great effort on both ends of the floor. He has the makings of a lock-down defender with great versatility on that end of the court and he’s an NBA level athlete.

Wendall isn’t yet a finished product on the offensive end but he excels in transition and at making cuts to the basket. His ball handling is improved and he projects as as pure wing at the next level with some ability to break defenders down with the dribble.

He projects as a 3&D guy at the next level and so hitting the 3pt shot will be the make or break skill of his career.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharycohen/2021/12/30/for-2022-nba-draft-prospect-wendell-moore-jr-the-third-year-at-duke-has-been-the-charm/?sh=13150ddb2b25

https://www.nbabigboard.com/p/wendell-moore-jr

If anyone has the ability to share a few tidbits from chad ford it would be appreaciated.


Basically, this is a 20 year old. Improved all 3 seasons.
6-6 220lbs, 7 foot wingspan

Excellent defender
Good athlete

Plays a point forward role

Excellent court vision
excellent ball handler
turned into a very nice 3 point shooter

he is an ideal 3andD player who also can be a secondary/primary playmaker

[Hal14]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4592187/wendell-moore-jr

The improvements in Wendell's career to date are spectacular.

His highschool scouting report

Moore has fine size at just over 6-5, but he has a massive wingspan that stretches to 7 feet. A defensive minded wing prospect, Moore is a good athlete that plays the game with toughness and physicality. He is loaded with potential on the defensive end, and he can guard multiple positions. Gives great effort on that side of the ball. Offensively, Moore is at his best as a slasher. He finishes well at the rim and is particularly good in transition. He’s a fairly good passer. The next step is developing as a shooter/scorer. He has shown signs, but he has to get much more consistent shooting from 3-point range. Moore is a multi-year college prospect.

Athletic Background
Wendell Moore is a 6-5, 210-pound Small Forward from Concord, NC.

Now he makes 41% of his three while shooting 3.5 per game

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/wendall-moore-jr/

Wendall Moore Jr is a solid all around player who gives great effort on both ends of the floor. He has the makings of a lock-down defender with great versatility on that end of the court and he’s an NBA level athlete.

Wendall isn’t yet a finished product on the offensive end but he excels in transition and at making cuts to the basket. His ball handling is improved and he projects as as pure wing at the next level with some ability to break defenders down with the dribble.

He projects as a 3&D guy at the next level and so hitting the 3pt shot will be the make or break skill of his career.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharycohen/2021/12/30/for-2022-nba-draft-prospect-wendell-moore-jr-the-third-year-at-duke-has-been-the-charm/?sh=13150ddb2b25

https://www.nbabigboard.com/p/wendell-moore-jr

If anyone has the ability to share a few tidbits from chad ford it would be appreaciated.


Basically, this is a 20 year old. Improved all 3 seasons.
6-6 220lbs, 7 foot wingspan

Excellent defender
Good athlete

Plays a point forward role

Excellent court vision
excellent ball handler
turned into a very nice 3 point shooter

he is an ideal 3andD player who also can be a secondary/primary playmaker

Yeah Moore is good. Duke website lists him at 6'5". I'm seeing some sites list his wingspan at 6'11" but that's still really good for a guy who can play either wing spot and also run some point. I didn't realize his 3 point % was up to 41%, he must be shooting better lately, I feel like he was around 35% before. I'll have to move him up on my big board - really good PER, BPM< net rating and TS% too.

He will probably go somewhere in the 14-26 range. He's fast, too. Always looking to attack, not afraid to take it strong to the rim. Just a good all around player. I can see him being a solid glue guy. Kind of like a mix between Langford and Nesmith (and maybe Begarin too), but has the potential to be better than all of them.

He could be a solid pick for us, give us some shooting, solid defense (switchable defender too), a solid passer who can play fast, up tempo basketball. And it's not like he's going top 10 so it's a realistic pick. I'm just not sure about taking a wing in the 1st round, since we still have nesmith, langford, we've got Begarin waiting overseas, tatum, brown, richardson.

Most of the mock drafts have us taking a PG in the 1st round - either Tyty Washington, Kennedy Chandler or Jean Montero. All 3 of them are good - they're all pretty different players but all are legit lottery talents. Not sure how I feel about us taking a PG in the 1st round - I'm in wait and see mode, wait and see how the rest of the season turns out and then see where our biggest need(s) are and how each of the prospects are looking at that point. As of now, I have washington barely higher than Montero, then Chandler. Chandler might have the best combination though of speed, passing, shooting and defense (a ton of mocks have us taking him in the 13-15 range) but he is only 6'0"..

[Larry_Russell]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4592187/wendell-moore-jr

The improvements in Wendell's career to date are spectacular.

His highschool scouting report

Moore has fine size at just over 6-5, but he has a massive wingspan that stretches to 7 feet. A defensive minded wing prospect, Moore is a good athlete that plays the game with toughness and physicality. He is loaded with potential on the defensive end, and he can guard multiple positions. Gives great effort on that side of the ball. Offensively, Moore is at his best as a slasher. He finishes well at the rim and is particularly good in transition. He’s a fairly good passer. The next step is developing as a shooter/scorer. He has shown signs, but he has to get much more consistent shooting from 3-point range. Moore is a multi-year college prospect.

Athletic Background
Wendell Moore is a 6-5, 210-pound Small Forward from Concord, NC.

Now he makes 41% of his three while shooting 3.5 per game

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/wendall-moore-jr/

Wendall Moore Jr is a solid all around player who gives great effort on both ends of the floor. He has the makings of a lock-down defender with great versatility on that end of the court and he’s an NBA level athlete.

Wendall isn’t yet a finished product on the offensive end but he excels in transition and at making cuts to the basket. His ball handling is improved and he projects as as pure wing at the next level with some ability to break defenders down with the dribble.

He projects as a 3&D guy at the next level and so hitting the 3pt shot will be the make or break skill of his career.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharycohen/2021/12/30/for-2022-nba-draft-prospect-wendell-moore-jr-the-third-year-at-duke-has-been-the-charm/?sh=13150ddb2b25

https://www.nbabigboard.com/p/wendell-moore-jr

If anyone has the ability to share a few tidbits from chad ford it would be appreaciated.


Basically, this is a 20 year old. Improved all 3 seasons.
6-6 220lbs, 7 foot wingspan

Excellent defender
Good athlete

Plays a point forward role

Excellent court vision
excellent ball handler
turned into a very nice 3 point shooter

he is an ideal 3andD player who also can be a secondary/primary playmaker

Yeah Moore is good. Duke website lists him at 6'5". I'm seeing some sits list his wingspan at 6'11" but that's still really good for a guy who can play either wing spot and also run some point. I didn't realize his 3 point % was up to 41%, he must be shooting better lately, I feel like he was around 35% before. I'll have to move him up on my big board - really good PER, net rating and TS% too.

He will probably go somewhere in the 14-26 range. He's fast, too. Always looking to attack, not afraid to take it strong to the rim. Just a good all around player. I can see him being a solid glue guy. Kind of like a mix between Langford and Nesmith, but has the potential to be better than both of them.

He could be a solid pick for us, give us some shooting, solid defense (switchable defender too), a solid passer who can play fast, up tempo basketball. And it's not like he's going top 10 so it's a realistic pick. I'm just not sure about taking a wing in the 1st round, since we still have nesmith, langford, we've got Begarin waiting overseas, tatum, brown, richardson.

Most of the mock drafts have us taking a PG in the 1st round - either Tyty Washington, Kennedy Chandler or Jean Montero. All 33 of them are good - they're all pretty different players but all are legit lottery talents. Not sure how I feel about us taking a PG in the 1st round - I'm in wait and see mode, wait and see how the rest of the season turns out and then see where our biggest need(s) are and how each of the prospects are looking at that point. As of now, I have washington barely higher than Montero, then Chandler. Chandler might have the best combination though of speed, passing, shooting and defense (a ton of mocks have us taking him in the 13-15 range) but he is only 6'0"..

I am way higher on Moore than any of the Points in the draft.

18 players in NCAA in last 30 years were able to do at least
15ppg
5.5rpg
4.5apg
39% from 3

Notable names
D. Russell
Grant Hill
Tyrese Haliburton (this is who I see watching Wendell, only bigger, longer and stronger)
Ayo
Fultz
Wiggins

Wendell is older which is the only reason his stock is low enough to be a target.

[Hal14]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4592187/wendell-moore-jr

The improvements in Wendell's career to date are spectacular.

His highschool scouting report


Now he makes 41% of his three while shooting 3.5 per game

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/wendall-moore-jr/



https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharycohen/2021/12/30/for-2022-nba-draft-prospect-wendell-moore-jr-the-third-year-at-duke-has-been-the-charm/?sh=13150ddb2b25

https://www.nbabigboard.com/p/wendell-moore-jr

If anyone has the ability to share a few tidbits from chad ford it would be appreaciated.


Basically, this is a 20 year old. Improved all 3 seasons.
6-6 220lbs, 7 foot wingspan

Excellent defender
Good athlete

Plays a point forward role

Excellent court vision
excellent ball handler
turned into a very nice 3 point shooter

he is an ideal 3andD player who also can be a secondary/primary playmaker

Yeah Moore is good. Duke website lists him at 6'5". I'm seeing some sits list his wingspan at 6'11" but that's still really good for a guy who can play either wing spot and also run some point. I didn't realize his 3 point % was up to 41%, he must be shooting better lately, I feel like he was around 35% before. I'll have to move him up on my big board - really good PER, net rating and TS% too.

He will probably go somewhere in the 14-26 range. He's fast, too. Always looking to attack, not afraid to take it strong to the rim. Just a good all around player. I can see him being a solid glue guy. Kind of like a mix between Langford and Nesmith, but has the potential to be better than both of them.

He could be a solid pick for us, give us some shooting, solid defense (switchable defender too), a solid passer who can play fast, up tempo basketball. And it's not like he's going top 10 so it's a realistic pick. I'm just not sure about taking a wing in the 1st round, since we still have nesmith, langford, we've got Begarin waiting overseas, tatum, brown, richardson.

Most of the mock drafts have us taking a PG in the 1st round - either Tyty Washington, Kennedy Chandler or Jean Montero. All 33 of them are good - they're all pretty different players but all are legit lottery talents. Not sure how I feel about us taking a PG in the 1st round - I'm in wait and see mode, wait and see how the rest of the season turns out and then see where our biggest need(s) are and how each of the prospects are looking at that point. As of now, I have washington barely higher than Montero, then Chandler. Chandler might have the best combination though of speed, passing, shooting and defense (a ton of mocks have us taking him in the 13-15 range) but he is only 6'0"..

I am way higher on Moore than any of the Points in the draft.

18 players in NCAA in last 30 years were able to do at least
15ppg
5.5rpg
4.5apg
39% from 3

Notable names
D. Russell
Grant Hill
Tyrese Haliburton (this is who I see watching Wendell, only bigger, longer and stronger)
Ayo
Fultz
Wiggins

Wendell is older which is the only reason his stock is low enough to be a target.

Yeah I kind of see the Haliburton comparison. If Moore ends up being that good and we take him in the 11-16 range, could be really nice. Moore and Brown on the wings, Tatum at the 4, rob at the 5. Moore with versatility to play some at the 1.

Keep in mind though, with that stat breakdown - those other guys played a full season of college basketball (non conference games + conference games + conference tourney + NCAA or NIT tourney). The deeper you go into the schedule, the harder the games get. Moore's Duke team is only about 1/3 of the way through their conference schedule so his numbers could drop a little bit by the time the season is completely over. Also, AJ Griffin's minutes have been much higher the3se past few games, coming back from a knee injury. Rest of the season, as long as Griffin stays healthy he could take away some of those points, rebounds and assists (Griffin was only getting like 12 mins a game early in the season but now is getting like 24 mins a game). Griffin is a projected top 10 pick.

[BostonCouchGM]

Moore is probably sub 6'5". And lots of his production is a result of an easy schedule and so much attention being paid to Banchero, Williams and Griffin. He is definitely going to be a solid role player but I'm no longer seeing him as a near lottery pick. The shooting is deceptive due to small sample size. If he had gone 0-3 instead of 3-3 from three last game he'd be shooting 36% which is where I think he realistically lands. It's kinda sad that we are envisioning wanting and needing Moore after recently drafting Langford and Nesmith, two similar players that don't get enough minutes and can't develop. There isn't a PG better than Pritchard in this year's draft either. But maybe it comes down to Ime (and Brad) simply do not like PP and Nesmith for whatever reason so we probably DO need to consider drafting those positions at the end of the day.

Personally, I'm hoping we can get Jovic, Baldwin or Duren since all can probably play the 4 as we're so deep at the 2.

[Duke4life831]

Ya Moore is the exact kind of player I can see Boston taking and the exact kind of player I can see Boston fans being pissed off they drafted him 2-3 years later.

He is a good college athlete, I would rank him probably average at the NBA level. Definitely wouldnt call him fast or explosive. He's a good defender, not an excellent one. I know pretty much every game the K tells the broadcast crew that Moore is vying for defensive awards, but its clear the coaching staff doesn't even view him that way. For the majority of the season he was guarding the 2nd best perimeter player and since AJ has been put into the starting lineup, Moore now guards the worst perimeter player. Keels and AJ are handed the harder assignments.

When it comes to his shooting, it has no doubt improved but it is far from a strength. Ya I know he is at 41% for the season, but you need to look at how he is getting to that number. For instance he went 3 straight games without making a 3 and 2 of them he didnt even attempt one. The reason I say that is because its not a normal weapon in his arsenal. Moore's 3s (especially against actual competition) are essentially set shot 3s. Wide open with no defenders around him. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying he is a horrible shooter and the form isnt bad. But it is very slow and I wouldnt take the small sample size of just this year (and again how he's getting the majority of them) as him being a good shooter. He was a 28% 3pt shooter his first 2 years at Duke. I think its going to take quite sometime for his 3pt shot to be anything close to consistent against NBA defenders.

Dont get me wrong I like Moore and I think he will be a solid late 1st round guy. But I dont see the fit at all with you guys.

[playa-hater]

The last time we picked in the top 10 we got Tatum. before that J Brown. Wehoiuld e ale to get another good one..

Anything but pick 14 please.. Bad luck number!

[winsomme2]

Jean montero my pick 4 now fits need good 2way ceiling

I like Montero.

There's 4 PGs who could potentially go in the lottery (Montero, Tyty Washington, JD Davison, Kennedy Chandler). Montero is the best of the 4, IMO. He's still only 18 yrs old so very young, will need some time to adjust to NBA game but could definitely develop into a star PG in the league.

Blake Wesley is jumping up my chart. Long, scoring and passing PG who plays solid D as well.

He is my current binkie.

[Larry_Russell]

Ya Moore is the exact kind of player I can see Boston taking and the exact kind of player I can see Boston fans being pissed off they drafted him 2-3 years later.

He is a good college athlete, I would rank him probably average at the NBA level. Definitely wouldnt call him fast or explosive. He's a good defender, not an excellent one. I know pretty much every game the K tells the broadcast crew that Moore is vying for defensive awards, but its clear the coaching staff doesn't even view him that way. For the majority of the season he was guarding the 2nd best perimeter player and since AJ has been put into the starting lineup, Moore now guards the worst perimeter player. Keels and AJ are handed the harder assignments.

When it comes to his shooting, it has no doubt improved but it is far from a strength. Ya I know he is at 41% for the season, but you need to look at how he is getting to that number. For instance he went 3 straight games without making a 3 and 2 of them he didnt even attempt one. The reason I say that is because its not a normal weapon in his arsenal. Moore's 3s (especially against actual competition) are essentially set shot 3s. Wide open with no defenders around him. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying he is a horrible shooter and the form isnt bad. But it is very slow and I wouldnt take the small sample size of just this year (and again how he's getting the majority of them) as him being a good shooter. He was a 28% 3pt shooter his first 2 years at Duke. I think its going to take quite sometime for his 3pt shot to be anything close to consistent against NBA defenders.

Dont get me wrong I like Moore and I think he will be a solid late 1st round guy. But I dont see the fit at all with you guys.

Interesting.

Thanks.

[Hal14]

Jean montero my pick 4 now fits need good 2way ceiling

I like Montero.

There's 4 PGs who could potentially go in the lottery (Montero, Tyty Washington, JD Davison, Kennedy Chandler). Montero is the best of the 4, IMO. He's still only 18 yrs old so very young, will need some time to adjust to NBA game but could definitely develop into a star PG in the league.

Blake Wesley is jumping up my chart. Long, scoring and passing PG who plays solid D as well.

He is my current binkie.

I know Notre Dame plays him at the 1 sometimes, but Wesley is definitely more of a 2-guard in the NBA, IMO. I think it's just because Notre Dame doesn't have many other good options to play PG.

I like Wesley, though. Makes some freshman mistakes here and there but love the upside. He reminds me of Jaylen Brown, but with better passing - but Wesley is not as good a finisher at the rim as Brown - and Wesley is an inch shorter..