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blueNorange wrote:mpharris36 wrote:blueNorange wrote:avoid flores recuse he will want watson and f that
not testing picks for a guy with soo much dirt
No way Watson will be QBing the giants...not with his history.
that’s who flores wants and that’s why he got fired from miami
also because he’s an **** like all of bill’s protégés
mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
I think you just are upset we didn't get Peters...all the HC candidates will have some flaws. Josh Allen was considered very raw coming out of college. You have to give him some credit regardless what you say.
The bills were joke franchise until Schoen got there...from all reports he is smart, works hard, and should reshape the org. I will trust him to make the decisions until he proves otherwise.
There were ass before Beane got there get it correct. Beane is the shot caller not him. Im not giving Daboll nothing lol. He has done nothing to prove he is a head coach worthy at all.
My Only hope is that the reports are true about him contacting Flores this week to talk. Bring in Flores and I will be a little bit easier, but Daboll? nah. Im not feeling it. We done this whole give some unproven dude a shot and we failed like 3 times in a row so far. Nothing about the dude give me hope that he has what it take to lead the giants.
And what was Beane first move when he got to buffalo? I will wait...
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:
There were ass before Beane got there get it correct. Beane is the shot caller not him. Im not giving Daboll nothing lol. He has done nothing to prove he is a head coach worthy at all.
My Only hope is that the reports are true about him contacting Flores this week to talk. Bring in Flores and I will be a little bit easier, but Daboll? nah. Im not feeling it. We done this whole give some unproven dude a shot and we failed like 3 times in a row so far. Nothing about the dude give me hope that he has what it take to lead the giants.
And what was Beane first move when he got to buffalo? I will wait...
What was Lynch first move? Exactly...
You know what the difference is?
Peters ran the operation without the title. Schoen didnt. What track record can you point to the dude that he will be a better GM than peters?. I'll wait. Like what Credit can you exculsivley give to him what Gems is he responsible for? Again the 49ers own media even says Peters is really calling the shots and that Lynch smooth transition into GM is really about peters. The reality is this move has the typical Giants connection because of gettlemen and Beane.....- smh. Thats the reason why Schoen had the inside track for months. Like I said Same ol Giants.
Peters would have been the first 100% outside hire with NO connections to the giants in anyway.
mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
And what was Beane first move when he got to buffalo? I will wait...
What was Lynch first move? Exactly...
You know what the difference is?
Peters ran the operation without the title. Schoen didnt. What track record can you point to the dude that he will be a better GM than peters?. I'll wait. Like what Credit can you exculsivley give to him what Gems is he responsible for? Again the 49ers own media even says Peters is really calling the shots and that Lynch smooth transition into GM is really about peters. The reality is this move has the typical Giants connection because of gettlemen and Beane.....- smh. Thats the reason why Schoen had the inside track for months. Like I said Same ol Giants.
Peters would have been the first 100% outside hire with NO connections to the giants in anyway.
The schoen connection is completely overplayed...DG and Schoen never overlapped once.
This is an outside hire bro. Again you can make the argument Peters is better...but to act like Schoen isn't a qualified strong candidate is really tough to debate because he is well liked throughout the whole league.
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:
What was Lynch first move? Exactly...
You know what the difference is?
Peters ran the operation without the title. Schoen didnt. What track record can you point to the dude that he will be a better GM than peters?. I'll wait. Like what Credit can you exculsivley give to him what Gems is he responsible for? Again the 49ers own media even says Peters is really calling the shots and that Lynch smooth transition into GM is really about peters. The reality is this move has the typical Giants connection because of gettlemen and Beane.....- smh. Thats the reason why Schoen had the inside track for months. Like I said Same ol Giants.
Peters would have been the first 100% outside hire with NO connections to the giants in anyway.
The schoen connection is completely overplayed...DG and Schoen never overlapped once.
This is an outside hire bro. Again you can make the argument Peters is better...but to act like Schoen isn't a qualified strong candidate is really tough to debate because he is well liked throughout the whole league.
The Overlap is the former GM and The Bills GM are best buds and worked together for years. Its CLEARLY Obvious this Schoen thing was in the works BEFORE the season ended. That talk is EVERYWHERE. Peters made it a legit race< but Schoen was the frontrunner the WHOLE time and you KNOW this. What does that tell you. THERE IS A CONNECTION SOMEWHERE.
You honestly think that Schoen is that much of a stud that the Giants were after him simply on merit alone? if thats the case the whole league would have been chasing him not just the Giants. Every Report said Schoen had the inside track, and since his record is NOT as impressive as peters...What does that tell you? dont fool yourself into thinking anything otherwise. There is connections and some good words put in by a "friend" for sure.
mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
The schoen connection is completely overplayed...DG and Schoen never overlapped once.
This is an outside hire bro. Again you can make the argument Peters is better...but to act like Schoen isn't a qualified strong candidate is really tough to debate because he is well liked throughout the whole league.
The Overlap is the former GM and The Bills GM are best buds and worked together for years. Its CLEARLY Obvious this Schoen thing was in the works BEFORE the season ended. That talk is EVERYWHERE. Peters made it a legit race< but Schoen was the frontrunner the WHOLE time and you KNOW this. What does that tell you. THERE IS A CONNECTION SOMEWHERE.
You honestly think that Schoen is that much of a stud that the Giants were after him simply on merit alone? if thats the case the whole league would have been chasing him not just the Giants. Every Report said Schoen had the inside track, and since his record is NOT as impressive as peters...What does that tell you? dont fool yourself into thinking anything otherwise. There is connections and some good words put in by a "friend" for sure.
People thought Abrams was a shoe in until a few weeks ago...
The bears were after Schoen.
Minnesota may land Poles.
Its interesting that Peters hasn't been interviewed for any other job. I don't know what that means.
K-DOT wrote:I think it's always hard to tell how good someone's gonna be when you don't know what input they had on moves made by others
But Schoen seems to be highly regarded, so hopefully it works out for y'all.
mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
The schoen connection is completely overplayed...DG and Schoen never overlapped once.
This is an outside hire bro. Again you can make the argument Peters is better...but to act like Schoen isn't a qualified strong candidate is really tough to debate because he is well liked throughout the whole league.
The Overlap is the former GM and The Bills GM are best buds and worked together for years. Its CLEARLY Obvious this Schoen thing was in the works BEFORE the season ended. That talk is EVERYWHERE. Peters made it a legit race< but Schoen was the frontrunner the WHOLE time and you KNOW this. What does that tell you. THERE IS A CONNECTION SOMEWHERE.
You honestly think that Schoen is that much of a stud that the Giants were after him simply on merit alone? if thats the case the whole league would have been chasing him not just the Giants. Every Report said Schoen had the inside track, and since his record is NOT as impressive as peters...What does that tell you? dont fool yourself into thinking anything otherwise. There is connections and some good words put in by a "friend" for sure.
People thought Abrams was a shoe in until a few weeks ago...
The bears were after Schoen.
Minnesota may land Poles.
Its interesting that Peters hasn't been interviewed for any other job. I don't know what that means.
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:
The Overlap is the former GM and The Bills GM are best buds and worked together for years. Its CLEARLY Obvious this Schoen thing was in the works BEFORE the season ended. That talk is EVERYWHERE. Peters made it a legit race< but Schoen was the frontrunner the WHOLE time and you KNOW this. What does that tell you. THERE IS A CONNECTION SOMEWHERE.
You honestly think that Schoen is that much of a stud that the Giants were after him simply on merit alone? if thats the case the whole league would have been chasing him not just the Giants. Every Report said Schoen had the inside track, and since his record is NOT as impressive as peters...What does that tell you? dont fool yourself into thinking anything otherwise. There is connections and some good words put in by a "friend" for sure.
People thought Abrams was a shoe in until a few weeks ago...
The bears were after Schoen.
Minnesota may land Poles.
Its interesting that Peters hasn't been interviewed for any other job. I don't know what that means.
The anger will wear off soon cause, but under no circumstances do I want Daboll as the coach. Nah.... Im good.
mpharris36 wrote:Dion Dawkins, Tredavious White...this idea that the bills are just Josh Allen is crazy. They were the AFC east doormat for years.
TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:Dion Dawkins, Tredavious White...this idea that the bills are just Josh Allen is crazy. They were the AFC east doormat for years.
Thats It? Two players vs basically a whole roster and a HOF player ?
Also what Proof you had the he had anything to do with it? So what the point. You keep dancing around you can point to Peters, but what can you point to exclusively Him? I'll wait....
mpharris36 wrote:TerrenceClarke wrote:mpharris36 wrote:Dion Dawkins, Tredavious White...this idea that the bills are just Josh Allen is crazy. They were the AFC east doormat for years.
Thats It? Two players vs basically a whole roster and a HOF player ?
Also what Proof you had the he had anything to do with it? So what the point. You keep dancing around you can point to Peters, but what can you point to exclusively Him? I'll wait....
They had the #1 defensive in the league this year
This year, the Bills were the league’s top-ranked squad in total defense for the final 15 weeks of the regular season, and also led the league in the following categories:
Total yards allowed per play (4.6)
Passing yards per play (4.65)
First downs allowed per game (16.7)
Third down conversion rate allowed (30.8%)
ed oliver
Tremaine Edmunds
White
he brought in some really nice vet safties that have played well.
Josh Allen and the leagues best defense...we could do a lot worse.
Again that can't be your argument because what proof do we have any of the not top decision makers are making each pick. I get Peters is heavily involved...but Lynch is still the GM. Just like Beane is but Schoen gets a lot of credit from Beane as well.
Schoen moved on to the Miami Dolphins in 2008 as one of the Dolphins’ national scouts before becoming their assistant director of college scouting in 2013. It was there that Schoen got his first experience in the drafting process. He served as their director of player personnel from 2014 through 2016.