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If It Is To Be Said. So It Be. So It Is. The First Deadline Trade Thread.

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Post#381 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:01 pm

fallguy wrote:
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fallguy wrote:Gobert could finally give Ime that three-big lineup you know he wants to roll out.



Schroder
Smart
Horford
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Gobert

Wet dream for Ime


Love the shooting on display there too.



Strong finishing at the rim.
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Post#382 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:02 pm

thebirdman wrote:Conley and Horford are in the deal as well...

Interesting
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Post#383 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:03 pm

thebirdman wrote:Conley and Horford are in the deal as well...

Conley is old but I'm not going to lie, his leadership and shooting could be huge for the team

Also I doubt Utah wants Horford for Bogdanovic and Conley, unless they want to unload Conley
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Post#384 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:04 pm

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Read on Twitter


Not sure if this is credible at all, but Smart for Bogdanovic does make sense. Issue is he's 32 and we'd have to pay him after next year.



Makes no sense to me personally,

I like BB alot, but who is the PG?


This seems like Danny posturing to me.

Richardson, Schroder and 2-2nds, Yes I am in.


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Post#385 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:04 pm

I personally do that Utah trade. I know some people still believe smart will turn into a great offensive player but I personally think he's only going to get worse from here. On top of that his defense isn't what it used to be.

Of course as someone mentioned above you include Dennis Schroeder that doesn't leave any point guards besides Pritchard
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Post#386 » by jeremym480 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:06 pm

I iike Bojan a lot. The first thing that really pops in my mind when I think of him is how Boston ran him off the court in the playoffs when he was with Washington (you know, one of the last fun Celtics teams? *pours one out for them) then the very next year (the year Cleveland won the title *vomits) he guarded Lebron as well as anyone in the playoffs that year. In my opinion, that's kind of where his career turned from mostly a low-level starter/bench scorer to a solid starter/big shot maker.

I think he would be a great fit on this team, even at the expense of losing Smart but my main concern is his age. I mean, 32 isn't old but I'd rather try to parlay guys like Smart and Horford into younger guys who can grow with the Jays. Also, he's just not a needle mover, same for Conley. I think they're both really good players but are they going to help us win a championship? Sadly, I don't think so.
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Post#387 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:07 pm

Conley, BB and Azubuiki
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Smart, Horford and Schroder and 1 2nd


Although I bet that Utah flips Horford for a better player than what we have, almost guarantee that happening, lol. I also cannot see why they would really want Horford? Perhaps a 3rd team comes in on this as the above deal also has Utah taking in almost 7 million MORE in salary than Boston

Its a very risky deal though, IMO. and I only am ok with trading Smart because Richardson is here. 85% of the defender Marcus is but 115% of the offensive player he is.

BB could leave in a year and Conley is 34 and under contract for 2 more years after this one.
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Post#388 » by Bohemian » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:11 pm

It seems like a realistic trade and maybe it happens. Conley and Bogdanovic fix 2 glaring needs: PG and shooting.

Let's do this.
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Post#389 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:12 pm

Bohemian wrote:It seems like a realistic trade and maybe it happens. Conley and Bogdanovic fix 2 glaring needs: PG and shooting.

Let's do this.

I don't really see Utah doing it though. Conley is one thing, but Bogdanovic too? Feels like they're adding salary to downgrade the team.
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Post#390 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:15 pm

I have a rumor that it's rumor season. Take from that what you will, but my sources are impeccable.
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Post#391 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:17 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Bohemian wrote:It seems like a realistic trade and maybe it happens. Conley and Bogdanovic fix 2 glaring needs: PG and shooting.

Let's do this.

I don't really see Utah doing it though. Conley is one thing, but Bogdanovic too? Feels like they're adding salary to downgrade the team.


Be left with
Smart/Schroder
Mitchell/Clarkson
Ingles/Gay
O'Neal/Pachal
Gobert/Horford

I dont think that is really a downgrade, and instead a much more balanced roster.

And knowing Danny, one of the guys probably has bad hips or knees.
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Post#392 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:21 pm

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Probably because Smart is owed $77M over the next 4 years and Bogdanovic is $20M/1 year?

I would be surprised if we left ourselves with only Pritchard as a true PG on the roster, but who knows?

I guess, if you regard Smart's contract as a negative. With the way salaries go up every year, I don't really think it will be regarded badly, personally.



I don't know, $20M a year is a decent amount to pay for the ~5th best guy on a contending team...


Very easy to dump on OKC for cap room....if they do something like this for expiring contracts that they can dump it does bode very well for them being a player in FA
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Post#393 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:21 pm

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Post#394 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:24 pm

A Smart/Schroder for Bogdanovic deal I believe gets the Celtics under the tax so.................

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Post#395 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:26 pm

We already have our PG in Pritchard. If he was starting and getting 30 mpg he'd have FVV numbers. However, neither he nor any PG you get in a trade will actually run/initiate the offense since Tatum seemingly needs the ball to ISO so stressing about PG makes no sense. In that regard, getting Bojan for Smart DOES accomplish a couple things. It gives us better spacing and another guy who can hit threes off of Tatum, Brown and PP. And it gets us out from under that awful Smart contract.

All that said, the easier solution would be to just start PP and Nesmith and move Smart to the 2nd unit to be our super 6th man. It solves all our issues. The fact that this hasn't happened means to me, that Smart would not be receptive and Brad and Ime are cowards and inept. If true, it also means the narrative that Smart is all about team and this great leader, are laughably false.

Bojan is an embarrassing defender though. If Brown was still an elite defender this wouldn't concern me but he isn't. And losing Smart's defense on top of it creates a problem that might negate the effect on offense. We'd turn into the Jazz and the Jazz would turn into us. Essentially a pointless trade for both teams imho. But because we'd get off Smart's contract we'd come out ahead?
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Post#396 » by keevsnick1 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:28 pm

I don't know for certain that Smart straight up for Bogey is a trade I'd do. You wanna trade 4.5 years of a 27 year old for 1.5 years of a 32 year old? That's....not a great value proposition. And this coming from a guy who isn't the biggest fan of Smart.

Then you add in Schroder? That leaves the C's with no PG. I think in that scenario you'd have to have draft assets coming back from Utah, not from Boston.
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Post#397 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:29 pm

I don't know if we should even deal with Utah, I didn't want Danny out, one thing he's going to do is win a trade if nothing else! No! Finna leave POBO looking dumb!
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Post#398 » by Bill Lumbergh » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:30 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:A Smart/Schroder for Bogdanovic deal I believe gets the Celtics under the tax so.................

Anything's Possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If they somehow did this, they'd have to bring in another PG from somewhere. I really don't think it moves the needle all that much, but admittedly, what we've got is pretty stale.
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Post#399 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:31 pm

NuckyPowell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:A Smart/Schroder for Bogdanovic deal I believe gets the Celtics under the tax so.................

Anything's Possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If they somehow did this, they'd have to bring in another PG from somewhere. I really don't think it moves the needle all that much, but admittedly, what we've got is pretty stale.

It's a rumor. Who knows?

They could pick up someone like IT at vet min and find their PG next year. I still would be shocked if it happened.
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Post#400 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:34 pm

I don't know how I make it through this time every season! I keep reading even though I hate it! It's harder this season because POBO could do anything, I have no history to base expectations.
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