[Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline

[Tor_Raps]

That 2027 first is clearly the most valuable trade asset that the Lakers currently possess. The Lakers have tried, with no luck yet, to package that pick with Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn in an attempt to acquire Jerami Grant from Detroit.


i wonder if they'd do Tucker, nunn and the 2027 1st for trent?

Why would we? Lol

Pretty sure our management is expecting to compete before 2027 and probably as soon as next year lol.

[Johnny Bball]

The team as currently constructed reminds me of the Rudy Gay Raptors. Top heavy with some good pieces, but less than the sum of its parts. Getting rid of Gay unlocked something in the rest of the team, and it will likely have to occur again.

Trading for an entire bench made the difference. That wasn't because Rudy Gay sucked.

[Rodrickle]

the only asset Raps probably part with is Boucher, Birch, 22 1st and future picks.

may deal Siakam if good offer comes but looks like team is full on make the playoffs or the play in mode based on Nurse running FVV Siakam 44 min a night

Dragic's expiring contract would really help out Atlanta, who is projected to have a payroll of $145 million plus their 1st round picks.

Gallinari is only guaranteed $5 million next yr. Payroll will be early $130Ms I believe if he's waived

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[Psubs]

the only asset Raps probably part with is Boucher, Birch, 22 1st and future picks.

may deal Siakam if good offer comes but looks like team is full on make the playoffs or the play in mode based on Nurse running FVV Siakam 44 min a night

Dragic's expiring contract would really help out Atlanta, who is projected to have a payroll of $145 million plus their 1st round picks.

Gallinari is only guaranteed $5 million next yr. Payroll will be early $130Ms I believe if he's waived

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Good to know, maybe they just try to unload 1 of Capela or Bogdanovic at the deadline.

PG Trae
SG Huerter
SF Hunter
PF Collins - JJohnson
C Okongwu

Add #10 and #19.

[mdenny]

Dragic's expiring contract would really help out Atlanta, who is projected to have a payroll of $145 million plus their 1st round picks.

Gallinari is only guaranteed $5 million next yr. Payroll will be early $130Ms I believe if he's waived

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Good to know, maybe they just try to unload 1 of Capela or Bogdanovic at the deadline.

PG Trae
SG Huerter
SF Hunter
PF Collins - JJohnson
C Okongwu

Add #10 and #19.

Damn....is it really possible to get bogs? Seems to good to be true. But i guess atlanta is in cap hell. And which of bogs or trent would agree to come off the bench?

[Boselecta]

This is like going to the store with no money we have nothing to offer other than key rotation guys.

Wish we could offer 10 days there’s lots of guys out there that offer more than our bench

[Boselecta]

Without moving FVV, Pascal or OG how much can we really get back?

I actually have a weird feeling that OG might be on the move which doesn't upset me near as much as I thought it would.

I don't think he ever becomes much better than he is right now. If other teams think he can jump another level or two maybe it's in our best long term interests to move him?

Been saying this since the preseason if u can get Simmons for og + dragic you take it and run

would you move Ben Simmons for OG + Dragic

and if that trade happened, lets hypothesize that Ben Simmons is open to it (take a positive spin on this matter - no negative ones because we know what media is saying about Ben Simmons)

--> how would that trade affect this team? Ben Simmons plays the point guard and FVV plays the SG position?

--> He's not going to take away shots from FVV and Siakam - he's a pass first guy. more shots to Barnes and GTJ as well. defends at the same level as OG and doesn't move awkwardly and can handle the ball - Ben Simmons can post up better than OG. but we lose 3 point shooting for sure.

--> so we will still need to find 1-2 shooters as well unless Yuta and Svi have a shooting renaissance in the second half

[Green Backpack]

We'll be buyers if it fits the 2-4 year plan. We're not going out there and getting some washed up guy.

[NotMyKawhi]

That 2027 first is clearly the most valuable trade asset that the Lakers currently possess. The Lakers have tried, with no luck yet, to package that pick with Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn in an attempt to acquire Jerami Grant from Detroit.


i wonder if they'd do Tucker, nunn and the 2027 1st for trent?

Why would we? Lol

Pretty sure our management is expecting to compete before 2027 and probably as soon as next year lol.

We aren't competing for a championship until we get a superstar. That 2027 lakers 1st when lebron is old has value. lots of value. They obviously will be bad. That pick could help us get a superstar down the road

[NinjaBro]

Bring back Norman Powell

[Ref_from_hell]

That 2027 first is clearly the most valuable trade asset that the Lakers currently possess. The Lakers have tried, with no luck yet, to package that pick with Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn in an attempt to acquire Jerami Grant from Detroit.


i wonder if they'd do Tucker, nunn and the 2027 1st for trent?

Why would we? Lol

Pretty sure our management is expecting to compete before 2027 and probably as soon as next year lol.

We aren't competing for a championship until we get a superstar. That 2027 lakers 1st when lebron is old has value. lots of value. They obviously will be bad. That pick could help us get a superstar down the road

Gross, no thank you. I'm not giving up Trent. Especially for Lakers garbage.

[Ref_from_hell]

The team as currently constructed reminds me of the Rudy Gay Raptors. Top heavy with some good pieces, but less than the sum of its parts. Getting rid of Gay unlocked something in the rest of the team, and it will likely have to occur again.

Trading for an entire bench made the difference. That wasn't because Rudy Gay sucked.

The Rudy Gay thing is interesting, but I don't see any raptors on this team that remind me of Rudy Gay in terms of his inefficiency and crappy defense. I will admit moving him did unlock more of DD and Kyle, but you're right the return definitely helped our depth.

Again, this doesn't really resemble the raptors with Rudy. This is more like a team with five or six good players that needs more depth. There is no Rudy Gay on this roster. For a while I thought it was Pascal, but he has proven me wrong this season.

[mdenny]

Why would we? Lol

Pretty sure our management is expecting to compete before 2027 and probably as soon as next year lol.

We aren't competing for a championship until we get a superstar. That 2027 lakers 1st when lebron is old has value. lots of value. They obviously will be bad. That pick could help us get a superstar down the road

Gross, no thank you. I'm not giving up Trent. Especially for Lakers garbage.

I will never understand what a team fan of any kind would be happy about getting a pick 5 or 6 years from now. I mean....you're looking at that player having a meaningful contribution in 7 or 8 years lol. Also....it's extremely unlikely the Lakers will take that long to recover from the post LeBron phase. They will only be bad for 2 maybe 3 years tops. It's still LA. They will always be able to build their team through free agency.

[DelAbbot]

Whose absence on this team would unlock the rest of the team?

The team as currently constructed reminds me of the Rudy Gay Raptors. Top heavy with some good pieces, but less than the sum of its parts. Getting rid of Gay unlocked something in the rest of the team, and it will likely have to occur again.

[Parataxis]

We aren't competing for a championship until we get a superstar. That 2027 lakers 1st when lebron is old has value. lots of value. They obviously will be bad. That pick could help us get a superstar down the road

Gross, no thank you. I'm not giving up Trent. Especially for Lakers garbage.

I will never understand what a team fan of any kind would be happy about getting a pick 5 or 6 years from now. I mean....you're looking at that player having a meaningful contribution in 7 or 8 years lol. Also....it's extremely unlikely the Lakers will take that long to recover from the post LeBron phase. They will only be bad for 2 maybe 3 years tops. It's still LA. They will always be able to build their team through free agency.

Because getting distant future picks helps build continuity. Especially if it's likely that those distant picks will be in the lottery.

Just one won't really do much, but if you get a pipeline of future picks coming through, those picks eventually become near future (and then present) picks, which allows you to build a team focused on competing, but knowing that you still have draft lottery involvement coming down the line.

It's extremely long term thinking, and you need to already be a team that can compete in the present for it to really be worth it. But if you've got that all together, it's a recipe for being constantly relevant.

(Speaking in general terms, not specifically to a Raptors/Lakers trade)

[mdenny]

Whose absence on this team would unlock the rest of the team?

The team as currently constructed reminds me of the Rudy Gay Raptors. Top heavy with some good pieces, but less than the sum of its parts. Getting rid of Gay unlocked something in the rest of the team, and it will likely have to occur again.

I agree with ref from hell. Don't think we have a player like that. They are usually poor defenders with extremely high offensive usage. None of our guys really fit that bill. In years past I think Demar was like that. Ja Morant faced those questions this season but seems to be proving them wrong now.

I remember there were even questions about Kawhi in his only season with us. Our ball movement was better and the offense more fluid when he didn't play.

[PerfectJab]

Don't get the obsession with Poeltl. He adds a win or two but doesn't move the needle whatsoever.

I think the objective is to obtain stability at the 5 at a potentially cheap price.

Not so much about moving the needle as it is about allowing others to do what they do without having to worry about that position.

[LoveMyRaps]

Our frontcourt is more than fine w/ Scottie/Pascal/Precious/Boucher/Birch.

It's clear that we need to acquire another guard. Ideally a combo guard that can handle the ball, shoot, and be a playmaker.

[Merit]

Don't get the obsession with Poeltl. He adds a win or two but doesn't move the needle whatsoever.

Remember when Gasol first arrived, he didn't score much but suddenly the three point shooting % of the team went way up. I think Poeltl with his passing might that have kind of positive chemistry effect on our offense.

edit - not as good as Gasol, but like that

If Turner wasn't hurt I'd rather have him though because of his 3 pt shooting.

He’s also Pascal’s good friend and the raps have shown they can unlock shooting in players.

[Merit]

I don’t think we get a big. I think they are after a guard.

That would be good too. As long as Birch comes back and stays healthy. A combo guard who can spell Fred at the point and also shoot would be ideal.

I just hope we don't get yet another development project, who we hope can learn to shoot later. We need a guy who can play right now.

Was it you who suggested Gary Harris? Sounds like a good match for the type of player you’re referring to. Plus he gets lots of deflections.