Trade Ideas for This Season

[bkohler]

The problem with trading Conley, (which I don't love, but wouldn't be opposed to), is that I don't think whoever we would get back would make the Jazz better in the next two years.

I feel like our biggest problem is our 3-6 guys (Conley, Bogey, Clarkson, Ingles) have low value for what we need to get back. Clarkson is the youngest at 29. I feel like teams that would want them are more teams trying to "go for it" like us, and those teams will only give up future picks and not win now guys.

I assume if you're trading Conley or Bogey you're in a mini tear down and aren't really "going for it" but trying to get guys who still have upside that might push you to a higher level in 2-3 years.

[red4hf]

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From the trade board...... This would be a disaster in my opinion.......

[AingesBurner]

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From the trade board...... This would be a disaster in my opinion.......

It’s going to be Conley or someone else, Bogeys shooting is too valuable.

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My guess would be Conley, as they both play the same position, and the Jazz are the ones who want further compensations. We don't have any other players that will command further compensation from the other team (excluding Gobert and Mitchell) for an exchange of players on Smart's level.

Celtics fan here (obviously). I'm along the same thought lines.

Question though, just how bad has Conley's defense become?

I haven't watched many games so someone else's opinion on the matter will be more valuable. However, even if his defense is ok, we have a very small back court with him and Mitchell and we need more size and defensive versatility.

For the record, I wouldn't be very enthusiastic about a trade centered around Conley-Smart because Smart, who I like as a player, is not a very good floor general imho. He makes very suspect decisions and he shoots at low percentages. Frankly, if this is the trade we make, we might as well have stuck with Rubio, who makes much better decisions and is also a good defender.

Rubio would have been a great fit with Bojan starting in place of Favors. The Conley trade was such an epic disaster. We would have been so much better in the playoffs these last few years with Rubio, Crowder and Allen plus whoever we draft with the 1st that went to Memphis. Brandon Clarke who Memphis took with the pick would have been a great fit with us defensively.

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It makes sense if you move Conley in a separate deal for a longer defensive wing. The problem is there aren't many teams out there looking for a pg that have a solid wing to trade. It definitely makes more sense to move Conley to the Celtics and shop Bojan and Ingles to try and find some longer defensive wing depth.

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[Inigo Montoya]

If the trade is Bojan for Smart, Schroder and a 2nd round pick, then it's a steal for the Jazz in terms of value. Having said that, we will sorely miss Bojan's shooting. If that trade happens, it seems obvious that Conley will be dealt in a following trade, and if we get Schroder, then Clarkson may be traded too, since the role of off the bench scorer could be filled by Schroder.

[red4hf]

If the trade is Bojan for Smart, Schroder and a 2nd round pick, then it's a steal for the Jazz in terms of value. Having said that, we will sorely miss Bojan's shooting. If that trade happens, it seems obvious that Conley will be dealt in a following trade, and if we get Schroder, then Clarkson may be traded too, since the role of off the bench scorer could be filled by Schroder.

I don't understand why people are so high on moving Clarkson..... He's the only other player, other than Mitchell, capable of creating his own shot...... We sorely need that.... And no, Schroder cannot replace what he does.......

[Inigo Montoya]

If the trade is Bojan for Smart, Schroder and a 2nd round pick, then it's a steal for the Jazz in terms of value. Having said that, we will sorely miss Bojan's shooting. If that trade happens, it seems obvious that Conley will be dealt in a following trade, and if we get Schroder, then Clarkson may be traded too, since the role of off the bench scorer could be filled by Schroder.

I don't understand why people are so high on moving Clarkson..... He's the only other player, other than Mitchell, capable of creating his own shot...... We sorely need that.... And no, Schroder cannot replace what he does.......

I'm not high on moving Clarkson--I've mentioned throughout the season exactly what you just mentioned. All I'm saying is that if the trade happens as is described, I can see Clarkson being moved. Not saying who is better, but both Clarkson and Schroder's roles are to provide off the bench scoring and their stats are quite similar as well.

[dr0welf]

If we traded Bogey for Smart/Schroeder it would have to be followed by another trade as previously mentioned. Unless Quinn decided to go small ball.

Maybe something like https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7520156

Trade with Sacramento and Philadelphia in the Ben Simmons flop.

This gets Philly their all star (Conley) that they say they wanted in return and a dynamic scorer in Hield.

Sacramento wins the Ben Simmons lottery and gets the flame thrower to compensate for losing Hield.

Utah gets some much needed defense in Thybulle and Barnes. Also, a PF to replace Bogey in Bagley. Don't know if Sacramento wants to give up Bagley but other options are available.

[beyonder]

Smart/Shroeder for Bogdanovic without FRP is pretty horrible. The last thing the Jazz need are 2 small guards that are iffy at shooting
Smart is listed as 6'4 but he is rather 6'2 and who will start instead of Bogey?
I would rather give Bogdanovic, Conley and even Clarkson for Barnes, Haliburton (3 team with PHI)

[@ndrew]

Trade with Boston seems more like a trade because of trade. Does not solve anything until something else happens. So why not just trade Bogey for perimeter defensive player?

[beyonder]

I was thinking of something like:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9uk4z3z



Bagley is something the Jazz would need to swallow but it's just 1 year.
PHI is shooting for the moon - not sure if this is enough but they get rid of Tobias contract. Not sure SAC wants Simmons that much.

[red4hf]

I was thinking of something like:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9uk4z3z



Bagley is something the Jazz would need to swallow but it's just 1 year.
PHI is shooting for the moon - not sure if this is enough but they get rid of Tobias contract. Not sure SAC wants Simmons that much.

So 76ers trade Simmons and don't get Haliburton? Yeah, seems totally legit......

[SoCalJazzFan]

While we are focused on a defensive wing, in reality we need a defensive wing who can also shoot, if they are in the starting rotation, as we still have Gobert who, other than setting screens, is ineffective outside of about 7 feet. If we get a purely defensive player, then while we might not be abused on defense, we might on offense.

[SoCalJazzFan]

I was thinking of something like:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9uk4z3z



Bagley is something the Jazz would need to swallow but it's just 1 year.
PHI is shooting for the moon - not sure if this is enough but they get rid of Tobias contract. Not sure SAC wants Simmons that much.

Question, how do you capture and insert the ESPN trade machine image? Do you do it on your phone with an edited screen shot, or desktop?

[AingesBurner]

I was thinking of something like:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9uk4z3z



Bagley is something the Jazz would need to swallow but it's just 1 year.
PHI is shooting for the moon - not sure if this is enough but they get rid of Tobias contract. Not sure SAC wants Simmons that much.

Question, how do you capture and insert the ESPN trade machine image? Do you do it on your phone with an edited screen shot, or desktop?

I doubt we would get Hali unless sending out a 1st.

[bkohler]

I was thinking of something like:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9uk4z3z



Bagley is something the Jazz would need to swallow but it's just 1 year.
PHI is shooting for the moon - not sure if this is enough but they get rid of Tobias contract. Not sure SAC wants Simmons that much.

Question, how do you capture and insert the ESPN trade machine image? Do you do it on your phone with an edited screen shot, or desktop?

I doubt we would get Hali unless sending out a 1st.

Hali’s the real prize of this trade, even with a first the 76ers would just cutout the jazz and keep him.

[beyonder]

I was thinking of something like:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9uk4z3z



Bagley is something the Jazz would need to swallow but it's just 1 year.
PHI is shooting for the moon - not sure if this is enough but they get rid of Tobias contract. Not sure SAC wants Simmons that much.

So 76ers trade Simmons and don't get Haliburton? Yeah, seems totally legit......

Indeed - if PHI is so high on Haluburton - they don't need Jazz/Conley for the trade
At the same time I still think the Jazz starting 5 needs to be bigger and you cannot do it without trading Conley for a big guard/wing (Donovan and Mike are just too small to play together)

[Wolverine]

If the trade is Bojan for Smart, Schroder and a 2nd round pick, then it's a steal for the Jazz in terms of value. Having said that, we will sorely miss Bojan's shooting. If that trade happens, it seems obvious that Conley will be dealt in a following trade, and if we get Schroder, then Clarkson may be traded too, since the role of off the bench scorer could be filled by Schroder.

I don't understand why people are so high on moving Clarkson..... He's the only other player, other than Mitchell, capable of creating his own shot...... We sorely need that.... And no, Schroder cannot replace what he does.......

Because he is an inefficient chucker who plays no D. He's been horrible this season and was unplayable in the playoffs.

Conley + Clarkson for Simmons

[red4hf]

If the trade is Bojan for Smart, Schroder and a 2nd round pick, then it's a steal for the Jazz in terms of value. Having said that, we will sorely miss Bojan's shooting. If that trade happens, it seems obvious that Conley will be dealt in a following trade, and if we get Schroder, then Clarkson may be traded too, since the role of off the bench scorer could be filled by Schroder.

I don't understand why people are so high on moving Clarkson..... He's the only other player, other than Mitchell, capable of creating his own shot...... We sorely need that.... And no, Schroder cannot replace what he does.......

Because he is an inefficient chucker who plays no D. He's been horrible this season and was unplayable in the playoffs.

Conley + Clarkson for Simmons

Yeah, and Philadelphia does that why?