Miles Bridges Arrested: Felony Domestic Violence, Wife Speaks Pg.85

[fatlever]

Ive been tempted to post a hot take about how I might not be super comfortable with Miles on a max contract for a team like us but I think I'll save it for the off-season and let it play out

remind me, what is a max contract for miles look like?
i think its fair to be concerned - contract year, super fast paced offense is inflating numbers, defense and future position still a question.. i'm always reluctant about big contracts to anyone who has yet to prove they can dominate the playoffs on both ends.
regarless, he gonna get PAID... max offers, figure out rest later. we cant lose him for nothing. so if we are scared to pay max, deal him now.

[HornetJail]

Ive been tempted to post a hot take about how I might not be super comfortable with Miles on a max contract for a team like us but I think I'll save it for the off-season and let it play out

remind me, what is a max contract for miles look like?
i think its fair to be concerned - contract year, super fast paced offense is inflating numbers, defense and future position still a question.. i'm always reluctant about big contracts to anyone who has yet to prove they can dominate the playoffs on both ends.
regarless, he gonna get PAID... max offers, figure out rest later. we cant lose him for nothing. so if we are scared to pay max, deal him now.

the projection is $29.75M in year one. Other teams can give him 5% raises for 4 years, we can give him 8% raises for 5 years.

so other teams can give him around 4/$128M (slightly higher than Hayward money), we can in theory give him 5/$172.5M

I don't think he gets either of those figures, but would not be surprised in the slightest if another team gave him 4/110 or so

[luciano-davidwesley]

Ive been tempted to post a hot take about how I might not be super comfortable with Miles on a max contract for a team like us but I think I'll save it for the off-season and let it play out

remind me, what is a max contract for miles look like?
i think its fair to be concerned - contract year, super fast paced offense is inflating numbers, defense and future position still a question.. i'm always reluctant about big contracts to anyone who has yet to prove they can dominate the playoffs on both ends.
regarless, he gonna get PAID... max offers, figure out rest later. we cant lose him for nothing. so if we are scared to pay max, deal him now.

the projection is $29.75M in year one. Other teams can give him 5% raises for 4 years, we can give him 8% raises for 5 years.

so other teams can give him around 4/$128M (slightly higher than Hayward money), we can in theory give him 5/$172.5M

I don't think he gets either of those figures, but would not be surprised in the slightest if another team gave him 4/110 or so

And this is why we are better off not offering him a max and merely matching an offer sheet. One less year commitment and smaller annual raises. Lets face it we have to go all in on this guy being a small market team and pray we can make a Melo/Miles/??? contender in the next few years.

If we go down that path with his contract lets just hope he doesn't throw a tantrum like Ben Simmons because then things get complicated. Bridges being a Klutch client is an incredibly red flag.

[JMAC3]

Ive been tempted to post a hot take about how I might not be super comfortable with Miles on a max contract for a team like us but I think I'll save it for the off-season and let it play out

remind me, what is a max contract for miles look like?
i think its fair to be concerned - contract year, super fast paced offense is inflating numbers, defense and future position still a question.. i'm always reluctant about big contracts to anyone who has yet to prove they can dominate the playoffs on both ends.
regarless, he gonna get PAID... max offers, figure out rest later. we cant lose him for nothing. so if we are scared to pay max, deal him now.

Bridges could get the same offer that Trae and SGA got but very unlikely.


SGA and Trae got which is 5/172
Donovan Mitchell got 5/163.
Jaren Jackson got 4/104
John Collins got 5/125
Mikal Bridges got 4/90

Hornets offered 4/60 reportedly so you can see why he turned that down. Collins money makes sense to me for him.

[KembaWalker]

imagine if we had gotten him to sign the dotted line on the 4yr 60 mil extension we offered lol
damn we'd be sitting pretty right now

[BigSlam]

Ive been tempted to post a hot take about how I might not be super comfortable with Miles on a max contract for a team like us but I think I'll save it for the off-season and let it play out

I’ve been one of the biggest fans of Miles from the moment I watched him at MSU and we drafted him and have been thrilled to see him evolve to where he is now late last season and this season.

All that said, I wouldn’t be comfortable paying him $30-$40mil per year.

[wilson115]

What does the demand for Jerami Grant say about the market for Miles and the kind of offer sheets he's surely getting this summer?

The Lakers, Trail Blazers, Knicks, Jazz, Wizards, Celtics, Pacers, Timberwolves and Kings have all signaled interest in the 27-year-old.

The frenzy comes one year after Pistons general manager Troy Weaver swiftly declined any inquiry about Grant's availability after the forward surprisingly chose Detroit in free agency. Sources say Detroit is now asking for two first-round picks or one first-round pick plus a high-upside young player.

That's a similar valuation Aaron Gordon garnered last season, and the parallels are clear. Like Gordon at the time of his deal to Denver, Grant still has one year remaining on his contract following this season. Sources say Grant expects to sign a lucrative extension in the ballpark of four years, $112 million this offseason.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952559-he-fits-everywhere-inside-the-market-for-nba-trade-deadlines-grand-prize

[SWedd523]

I'm of the opinion that max deals should be reserved for true Alpha guys who can win you q championship.

Is Miles going to be a top 2 player on a title team? i don't think so. Big risk locking into that deal and losing any flexibility to build because if it doesn't workout then bye bye Melo

[JMAC3]

Give him the 5 year 120... it seems like a lot, but by his third year he will look like a bargain as guys after him sign bigger and bigger contracts. Klay Thompson signed a "Max deal" and he was making 17 million per year by the final years.

[BigSlam]

Chaaaaaaaaa-chinggggggggg:

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[JDR720]

I don't think he is a max contract player. Poor defender, average shooter, average playmaker. He doesn't do anything notable at an elite level. The one thing he's got going for him is he does manage a good FG%. He's a really good fit with Melo too.

But unfortunately we have to keep him, even on a max contract. Which he is definitely going to be offered. He needs to improve to be worth it though, mainly his defense and 3pt shooting.

[BigSlam]

I don't think he is a max contract player. Poor defender, average shooter, average playmaker. He doesn't do anything notable at an elite level. The one thing he's got going for him is he does manage a good FG%. He's a really good fit with Melo too.

But unfortunately we have to keep him, even on a max contract. Which he is definitely going to be offered. He needs to improve to be worth it though, mainly his defense and 3pt shooting.

This is an amazingly unbelievable take to me.

I mean, I don’t think he’s a max player - I think that is reserved for MVP caliber players like James and Durant and Curry and Doncic and Jokic etc (and hopefully LaMelo one day).

But you make Miles sound like a scrub.

[Bassman]

Miles is a keeper, no question, no brainer. The market will dictate his value. Our best chance to have a value contract was this off-season. We decided to go too low (being cautious) and it wasn’t nearly enough. Now, we must keep Miles no matter the price. He is foundational to our future. As someone said, if you don’t want to sign for BIG money, make that deal now. Personally, I see Miles continuing to improve, even this year from last year. Needs to tighten up his defense. Miles is one of our anchors, along with Melo, and currently Rozier. Those three are so dynamic, they give us a chance to win any game. Need our defensive stopper/shot blocker/rebounder in the middle, which I hope someday is Kai but that is a huge unknown.

[Liver_Pooty]

I don't think he is a max contract player. Poor defender, average shooter, average playmaker. He doesn't do anything notable at an elite level. The one thing he's got going for him is he does manage a good FG%. He's a really good fit with Melo too.

But unfortunately we have to keep him, even on a max contract. Which he is definitely going to be offered. He needs to improve to be worth it though, mainly his defense and 3pt shooting.

Whew. Talking about Miles like he's Stanley Johnson or something.

[MasterIchiro]

There's a rule that will limit his contract figure. When a team makes an offer to a restricted free agent, they can't use that cap space for other moves for 72? hours during which time other targets fall off the board. As a restricted free agent playing for a team budgeted far below the luxury tax, the threat of matching deters a team needing cap for other free agents. Notice no team made an offer to Lauri Markannen because Bulls put themselves in a position to match. Matching will not put the Hornets in the tax. So I don't think any team with cap freezes a max slot knowing the Hornets will match and I think Miles ends up comping with John Collins who put up 20-10 in one season prior to his restricted free agency. Hornets can't lowball Bridges but I don't think Hornets have to worry about a funny number given matching restrictions. Hornets will offer him market value and won't be forced to pay more because freezing cap limits other moves a team with max cap space can make.

[JMAC3]

We offered 4/60... he was never accepting that. We messed up on the offer.

Realistically it should have been 4/85. Now I think it falls somewhere in the 4/100 or 5/125 range.

25 Million for a guy that scores 20 ppg and is 24 years is old is a good move.

[amcoolio]

We basically maxed Rozier, we will max Miles.

PJ will be a cap casualty though, some team will pay him more than we can afford to. I don't see MJ going into the tax unless the Hornets are a title contender, which is possible if the team learns defense in the next few years and stays healthy. The hope is Bouknight is good by the time Hayward/Batum is off the books

[HornetJail]

I don't think he is a max contract player. Poor defender, average shooter, average playmaker. He doesn't do anything notable at an elite level. The one thing he's got going for him is he does manage a good FG%. He's a really good fit with Melo too.

But unfortunately we have to keep him, even on a max contract. Which he is definitely going to be offered. He needs to improve to be worth it though, mainly his defense and 3pt shooting.

Whew. Talking about Miles like he's Stanley Johnson or something.

lol i thought you bumped a post from like 18 months ago

what is that take?

[Liver_Pooty]

I don't think he is a max contract player. Poor defender, average shooter, average playmaker. He doesn't do anything notable at an elite level. The one thing he's got going for him is he does manage a good FG%. He's a really good fit with Melo too.

But unfortunately we have to keep him, even on a max contract. Which he is definitely going to be offered. He needs to improve to be worth it though, mainly his defense and 3pt shooting.

Whew. Talking about Miles like he's Stanley Johnson or something.

lol i thought you bumped a post from like 18 months ago

what is that take?

Lol dunno. Everyone is entitled to opinion, but sheesh.

[JDR720]

I don't see the issue with the post. What, specifically, is too harsh about it?

He is a poor defender. I feel like this is pretty obvious. He has the tools to defend, but he falls asleep too often.
Average shooter. He shoots 33% from 3. That is pretty average. He can get hot and go 5-6, or he can go 1-8.
Average playmaker. He averages 3.6 assists per 36 minutes. The same as Cody Martin. This can probably be upgraded to "Above Average" at least for SF/PF's.

"Doesn't do anything notable at an elite level" can probably be debated. Obviously he is a great dunker, but I didn't count that as "notable". He's probably close to an elite finisher though, so I'll give you that.

He needs to improve to be worth a max contract. Mainly his defense and 3pt shooting. Seems like an obvious thing to say. And obviously not saying he is a scrub or Stanley Johnson. Those guys aren't worth a minimum contract, let alone a max one. Which Miles could be...if he improves and takes another leap like he did during the latter part of last season.