Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#121 » by JN61 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:54 am

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cpower wrote:he sucks, we should not play him and show the world how wiggins iso ball leading us to multiple rings.


Why is it straight to the extremes?

He's not the same player he was last year. Why does that have to result in sarcastic comments?

By what statistical measures (even eye test) has he not declined?

These people are unable to accept any kind of comments which aren't purely praising Curry. I see it constantly.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#122 » by JN61 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:59 am

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Phreak50 wrote:People wonder why Golden State and Curry are not liked.

Look at their sissy celebrations after beating one of the worst teams in the league.

They never have and never will respect their opponents. They're immature little pricks.


I was surprised to find out this was the first game winning buzzer beater of Curry's career. I don't blame him for celebrating.

I'm not surprised considering his 4th quarter statistics historically. Especially in the finals. They aren't pretty.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#123 » by WarriorGM » Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:04 pm

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rockmanslim wrote:
Phreak50 wrote:People wonder why Golden State and Curry are not liked.

Look at their sissy celebrations after beating one of the worst teams in the league.

They never have and never will respect their opponents. They're immature little pricks.


I was surprised to find out this was the first game winning buzzer beater of Curry's career. I don't blame him for celebrating.

I'm not surprised considering his 4th quarter statistics historically. Especially in the finals. They aren't pretty.


Not pretty for his opponents.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#124 » by AdagioPace » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:07 pm

he's about to be 34, it would be strange if he went the other direction (even though Lebron basically kept the same level until his mid 30s)
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#125 » by Meat » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:04 pm

Madhouse wrote:He is not declining. He is not going to reach his 2014-16 peak again but that is not declining.

that's literally the dictionary definition of declining, literally. LIT-ER-ALLY
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#126 » by Lunartic » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:50 pm

Curry is almost 34, it's reasonable he would decline.

Why are posters insisting that he's not? No one is saying he's a bad player or that he's not even top-4 still but he definitely is a bit slower and a worse shooter from his peak, that is the definition of "decline" It happens to all players, that's why we are able to observe their peak by looking at what precedes and follows it.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#127 » by JN61 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:54 pm

What is noteworthy is people has been totally ignoring Curry's poor inside finishing and it has been basically brushed under the rug by the media and the forums. His 0-3 ft FG% is worse than Westbrook's by 0.6% while having significantly lower volume on drives. His 3-10ft FG% has also cratered by 6%.

So to claim he hasn't been declining is simply living in denial. Shooting %s (3 point) are something that go up and down as players' careers go on and I wouldn't be too worried about it, unless player chucks almost 10 misses per game, but when inside scoring suffers so much it's clear indication of athletic decline and losing touch to go with it.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#128 » by Madhouse » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:10 pm

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Madhouse wrote:He is not declining. He is not going to reach his 2014-16 peak again but that is not declining.

that's literally the dictionary definition of declining, literally. LIT-ER-ALLY


Then he has been declining for years. It’s either or. If you say so Lebron has been declining since 2013 in that same sense as has KD since 2017.
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Post#129 » by Peregrine01 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:08 pm

Lately I've been seeing Curry simplify his dribble moves and now he's getting into the paint a lot better than before. He has a tendency to dance with the ball too much that gets him going east-west instead of north-south. Finishing is still a problem but I think it's a symptom of his touch being off just like his shot has been. I don't think this is a sign of massive physical decline.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#130 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:19 pm

AdagioPace wrote:he's about to be 34, it would be strange if he went the other direction (even though Lebron basically kept the same level until his mid 30s)

Lunartic wrote:Curry is almost 34, it's reasonable he would decline.

Why are posters insisting that he's not? No one is saying he's a bad player or that he's not even top-4 still but he definitely is a bit slower and a worse shooter from his peak, that is the definition of "decline" It happens to all players, that's why we are able to observe their peak by looking at what precedes and follows it.


But during this past offseason a few particularly delusional Steph/Warriors fans assured me that he had at least 4-5 prime seasons left
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#131 » by cpower » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:34 pm

JN61 wrote:
LouisLitt wrote:
cpower wrote:he sucks, we should not play him and show the world how wiggins iso ball leading us to multiple rings.


Why is it straight to the extremes?

He's not the same player he was last year. Why does that have to result in sarcastic comments?

By what statistical measures (even eye test) has he not declined?

These people are unable to accept any kind of comments which aren't purely praising Curry. I see it constantly.

Curry has slowed down a bit this season trying to adapting to different rotations, he has no ball in his hands and since Green was out, we used multiple guys to hand off the ball at the top of the key..JTA/Looney/Porter etc and to be honest i dont understand what Kerr is doing right now. Curry might have declined but its a bit too early to tell, if he still cant make his threes for the remaining of the season when Green is back and extends to next year , then i agree he is on the downhill. But this season alone he still leads the league plus minus and RAPM...i am not worried.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#132 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:41 pm

Phreak50 wrote:People wonder why Golden State and Curry are not liked.

Look at their sissy celebrations after beating one of the worst teams in the league.

They never have and never will respect their opponents. They're immature little pricks.



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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#133 » by WarriorGM » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:53 pm

Phreak50 wrote:People wonder why Golden State and Curry are not liked.

Look at their sissy celebrations after beating one of the worst teams in the league.

They never have and never will respect their opponents. They're immature little pricks.


Better to be feared than loved.

From all the hopeful comments regarding Curry's possible decline it's clear there's a significant number on the scared axis.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#134 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:57 pm

Madhouse wrote:
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Madhouse wrote:He is not declining. He is not going to reach his 2014-16 peak again but that is not declining.

that's literally the dictionary definition of declining, literally. LIT-ER-ALLY


Then he has been declining for years. It’s either or. If you say so Lebron has been declining since 2013 in that same sense as has KD since 2017.
Those two have declined as well... What on earth is your definition of declining if not that the player is getting worse. That's what a decline is lol

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#135 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:00 pm

art_tatum wrote:
jg77 wrote:
HotRocks34 wrote:It's sad to see this.

Early 3Q, losing to the Rockets in SF, Steph's line:

6/2/6 with 3 TO on 1/9 FGA

He's cratering.


Lol I can just tell you're rooting for his cliff.


To be fair curry and the warriors singlehandily dismantled the harden rockets era. Now they are in a rebuild
When did they dismantle the Rockets? I remember it the other way around. The Rockets destroyed the Warriors, and would have won a title if cp3 wasnt injured. Rockets literally ended the Warriors Dynasty.

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#136 » by WarriorGM » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:09 pm

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art_tatum wrote:
jg77 wrote:
Lol I can just tell you're rooting for his cliff.


To be fair curry and the warriors singlehandily dismantled the harden rockets era. Now they are in a rebuild
When did they dismantle the Rockets? I remember it the other way around. The Rockets destroyed the Warriors, and would have won a title if cp3 wasnt injured. Rockets literally ended the Warriors Dynasty.

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#137 » by art_tatum » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:10 pm

SecondTake wrote:
art_tatum wrote:
jg77 wrote:
Lol I can just tell you're rooting for his cliff.


To be fair curry and the warriors singlehandily dismantled the harden rockets era. Now they are in a rebuild
When did they dismantle the Rockets? I remember it the other way around. The Rockets destroyed the Warriors, and would have won a title if cp3 wasnt injured. Rockets literally ended the Warriors Dynasty.

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Wut lol maybe look at the playoffs 2015-2019 they sent the rockets home 4 times, FOUR times and are the reason they got cp3, let go of capela then traded cp3 for Westbrook after tensions from not winning in the playoffs in 2019 which was the death of them.

How did the rockets dismantle the warriors?
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#138 » by Madhouse » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:14 pm

SecondTake wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Meat wrote:that's literally the dictionary definition of declining, literally. LIT-ER-ALLY


Then he has been declining for years. It’s either or. If you say so Lebron has been declining since 2013 in that same sense as has KD since 2017.
Those two have declined as well... What on earth is your definition of declining if not that the player is getting worse. That's what a decline is lol

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not to me. Curry has not reached that level anymore and it is not due to age. He was only 27 at that time and only had 1-2 peak seasons. A decline to me is consistently getting worse either due to age or injury. Just last year Curry had his best season since his age 27 season and this season he is playing at a similar level as his age 29 season. Not being able to reach the level of 1 or 2 all time great seasons is not a typical decline. Curry has been in his prime since he was 25 years old and still is in my opinion.

Lebron is a bit different to me because he reached a level of absolute peak performance much longer than Curry, in different circumstances and you could see the reasons for him not reaching it anymore, his athletic ability got worse. I don't see that with Curry and don't see him any different than last year when he was dominating. More of a big shooting slump to me.
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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#139 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:21 pm

art_tatum wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
art_tatum wrote:
To be fair curry and the warriors singlehandily dismantled the harden rockets era. Now they are in a rebuild
When did they dismantle the Rockets? I remember it the other way around. The Rockets destroyed the Warriors, and would have won a title if cp3 wasnt injured. Rockets literally ended the Warriors Dynasty.

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Wut lol maybe look at the playoffs 2015-2019 they sent the rockets home 4 times, FOUR times and are the reason they got cp3, let go of capela then traded cp3 for Westbrook after tensions from not winning in the playoffs in 2019 which was the death of them.

How did the rockets dismantle the warriors?
Ok fair enough they beat the Rockets 3 of those years, but the strongest Warriors iteration with KD then proceeded to lose to the Rockets before cp3s injury. That was the only team to ever take down the KD Warriors in the playoffs, pre cp3 injury. Everyone thought would win the title that season, easily, and only the Rockets were able to upset them

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Re: Stephen Curry is probably on a decline in his career 

Post#140 » by WarriorGM » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:22 pm

Madhouse wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Then he has been declining for years. It’s either or. If you say so Lebron has been declining since 2013 in that same sense as has KD since 2017.
Those two have declined as well... What on earth is your definition of declining if not that the player is getting worse. That's what a decline is lol

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not to me. Curry has not reached that level anymore and it is not due to age. He was only 27 at that time and only had 1-2 peak seasons. A decline to me is consistently getting worse either due to age or injury. Just last year Curry had his best season since his age 27 season and this season he is playing at a similar level as his age 29 season. Not being able to reach the level of 1 or 2 all time great seasons is not a typical decline. Curry has been in his prime since he was 25 years old and still is in my opinion.

Lebron is a bit different to me because he reached a level of absolute peak performance much longer than Curry, in different circumstances and you could see the reasons for him not reaching it anymore, his athletic ability got worse. I don't see that with Curry and don't see him any different than last year when he was dominating. More of a big shooting slump to me.


Curry is still the best player in the NBA this year. Although I guess you can choose to believe instead that Wiggins and Poole are all-stars that are on the path to the Hall of Fame like Klay and Draymond.

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