[Lewenberg] Sources say Raptors intend to be buyers this deadline

[SurgeIblocka]

listening to Beal talk soo highly about the Raps the past few games we played them (Scotty, Nurse, Fred, style of play, team in general) has me wondering whether we are quietly talking to Washington about him. I mean I’m sure Masai is in some capacity… but how seriously?

I’m not saying I’m an advocate for this deal, but something along the lines of below may be appealing to Washington:

Beal FOR 2 FRPs + GTJ + Flynn + Dragic-to-3rd-Team Pieces (ie 2nd rounder and a young piece)

Washington gets 2-3 young players under multi year control, one of which in GTJ shows potential like he may be pretty damn good.. and a bunch of picks.

Beal isn’t THAT old, but is he THAT much better than GTJ currently is for this core? Gotta consider Beals contract too + likely renewal price long term. You only get Beal to try and play with him for 3+ years…

If Washington is open to trading Beal to us the first player after the picks they will ask for is OG.

[Spida888]

If Beal is available Morey would probably jump on it.

Problem with acquiring Beal is his next contract is going to be monstrous and he’s not a top 10 player.

So I’ll only be interested if it doesn’t cost more than 2 FRPs. He’s not worth an all in move.

[Raptorfan2012]

Yeah, I would trade anyone on this team not named Pascal or Barnes. Wonder if OG and GTJ would do the trick.

[redeye514]

listening to Beal talk soo highly about the Raps the past few games we played them (Scotty, Nurse, Fred, style of play, team in general) has me wondering whether we are quietly talking to Washington about him. I mean I’m sure Masai is in some capacity… but how seriously?

I’m not saying I’m an advocate for this deal, but something along the lines of below may be appealing to Washington:

Beal FOR 2 FRPs + GTJ + Flynn + Dragic-to-3rd-Team Pieces (ie 2nd rounder and a young piece)

Washington gets 2-3 young players under multi year control, one of which in GTJ shows potential like he may be pretty damn good.. and a bunch of picks.

Beal isn’t THAT old, but is he THAT much better than GTJ currently is for this core? Gotta consider Beals contract too + likely renewal price long term. You only get Beal to try and play with him for 3+ years…

If Washington is open to trading Beal to us the first player after the picks they will ask for is OG.

I agree, Washington would absolutely ask for OG. But the Spurs asked for OG too, and they got Poetle instead.

[redeye514]

If Beal is available Morey would probably jump on it.

Problem with acquiring Beal is his next contract is going to be monstrous and he’s not a top 10 player.

So I’ll only be interested if it doesn’t cost more than 2 FRPs. He’s not worth an all in move.

If you’re Washington, factoring where you are in the development curve and player contract situations. Is a Ben Simmons (no offence PG with MASSIVE contract to team structure around) w no picks package (Morey is stubborn and will probably ask Washington for picks!) actually better than a GTJ + Flynn + 2 FRP + 2nd Rounders package? GTJ has really upped his value this year.. super young.. good multi year team friendly contract. And Flynn is a former FRP stuck behind all star PGs (Lowry and FVV) with multiple years of a roomie scale contract left. Plus all the picks.

But I do agree on Beal not being the player to shove all you chips in on. 2 FRPs.. maybe / likely.. but def don’t go all in like he’s Kawhi.

[Tor_Raps]

Random comment but Biyombo had 22 13 5 in 29 mins for the Suns today. Might have been his best game as a nba player lol.

I'm curious why we couldn't even take a shot at someone like him as a 3rd center.

[Got Nuffin]

I love OG with all my heart but I would trade for Beal.

C Poeltl (if we somehow land him) / Precious
F Siakam / Champagnie
F Barnes / GTJ
G Beal / GTJ / J. Harris
G FVV / Banton

Any day.

[Yeezus_]

I love OG with all my heart but I would trade for Beal.

C Poeltl (if we somehow land him) / Precious
F Siakam / Champagnie
F Barnes / GTJ
G Beal / GTJ / J. Harris
G FVV / Banton

Any day.

Beal is a pending FA in 2022
Fred is a pending FA in 2023
Poeltl is a pending FA in 2023

This roster will be in cap hell so fast and it isnt even a team that screams championship.

[billy_hoyle]

I love OG with all my heart but I would trade for Beal.

C Poeltl (if we somehow land him) / Precious
F Siakam / Champagnie
F Barnes / GTJ
G Beal / GTJ / J. Harris
G FVV / Banton

Any day.

Beal is a pending FA in 2022
Fred is a pending FA in 2023
Poeltl is a pending FA in 2023

This roster will be in cap hell so fast and it isnt even a team that screams championship.

Cap going up. That looks like a contender to me, or at least has the assets to net a superstar if it stagnates.

The key is getting players on your roster, with the ability to use Bird rights to exceed the cap. If we have all our picks going forward...that roster is an enviable position to be IMO.

[Got Nuffin]

I love OG with all my heart but I would trade for Beal.

C Poeltl (if we somehow land him) / Precious
F Siakam / Champagnie
F Barnes / GTJ
G Beal / GTJ / J. Harris
G FVV / Banton

Any day.

Beal is a pending FA in 2022
Fred is a pending FA in 2023
Poeltl is a pending FA in 2023

This roster will be in cap hell so fast and it isnt even a team that screams championship.

No matter who we get on this roster, whether we are a championship contender or not depends only on one player - Scottie Barnes. If he becomes an All Star calibre player by the time he is 23 (Beal will be our oldest at 31) then that line up contends from then onwards. If not, then it doesn't matter who we recruit until that happens, we won't be anything more than a middling team.

There is also no such thing as a cap hell if you are a contending team unless your owners are avoiding the luxury tax.

[dgr81]

Random comment but Biyombo had 22 13 5 in 29 mins for the Suns today. Might have been his best game as a nba player lol.

I'm curious why we couldn't even take a shot at someone like him as a 3rd center.

The raptors don't have a point guard to help someone like biyombo score.

[Tor_Raps]

Random comment but Biyombo had 22 13 5 in 29 mins for the Suns today. Might have been his best game as a nba player lol.

I'm curious why we couldn't even take a shot at someone like him as a 3rd center.

The raptors don't have a point guard to help someone like biyombo score.

Good point in regards to the scoring but I don't think he would have been used here for that purpose. It would have been for rim protection/injury insurance against teams that have a Center worth matching up against.

Biyombo always seemed like a great guy that loved his time here. Plus with the African connection, seemed like a no brainer lol.

[tecumseh18]

Random comment but Biyombo had 22 13 5 in 29 mins for the Suns today. Might have been his best game as a nba player lol.

I'm curious why we couldn't even take a shot at someone like him as a 3rd center.

The raptors don't have a point guard to help someone like biyombo score.

Good point in regards to the scoring but I don't think he would have been used here for that purpose. It would have been for rim protection/injury insurance against teams that have a Center worth matching up against.

Biyombo always seemed like a great guy that loved his time here. Plus with the African connection, seemed like a no brainer lol.

The Raptors CANNOT bring in another player right now except under the league's emergency Covid protocol exception. We're just under the tax, and must clear our repeater tax status this year. Also, MLSE probably wants to share in the substantial booty from all the taxpaying teams to be divvied up among the non-taxpaying teams at the end of this season).

We can only hope that Dragic gives back a bit on his buy-out, and Raps will be in a position to be players in the buy-out market.

[SurgeIblocka]

Beal is no Kawhi and nowhere near it. He would be a 1 year rental at best and I am not sure even with him based on what we have to give up that we are guaranteed to even be in conference finals. Beal does not guarantee we are a contender. OG is averaging 17 ppg and Beal is averaging 21.1 ppg. We would lose significant defence so this 4 points per game would help but does not put us in contender status because Beal’s defence sucks. Im not sold on selling any valuable young asset like OG for a 1 year rental who is not a strong defensive player along with their O.

[Psubs]

The raptors don't have a point guard to help someone like biyombo score.

Good point in regards to the scoring but I don't think he would have been used here for that purpose. It would have been for rim protection/injury insurance against teams that have a Center worth matching up against.

Biyombo always seemed like a great guy that loved his time here. Plus with the African connection, seemed like a no brainer lol.

The Raptors CANNOT bring in another player right now except under the league's emergency Covid protocol exception. We're just under the tax, and must clear our repeater tax status this year. Also, MLSE probably wants to share in the substantial booty from all the taxpaying teams to be divvied up among the non-taxpaying teams at the end of this season).

We can only hope that Dragic gives back a bit on his buy-out, and Raps will be in a position to be players in the buy-out market.

I would think they have a buyout agreement in place where he gives up like $3 million (if not traded), so he is allowed to stay home and get paid.

[will]

Would be overjoyed to see a reunion with Yakub Purrtl.

[Tor_Raps]

Good point in regards to the scoring but I don't think he would have been used here for that purpose. It would have been for rim protection/injury insurance against teams that have a Center worth matching up against.

Biyombo always seemed like a great guy that loved his time here. Plus with the African connection, seemed like a no brainer lol.

The Raptors CANNOT bring in another player right now except under the league's emergency Covid protocol exception. We're just under the tax, and must clear our repeater tax status this year. Also, MLSE probably wants to share in the substantial booty from all the taxpaying teams to be divvied up among the non-taxpaying teams at the end of this season).

We can only hope that Dragic gives back a bit on his buy-out, and Raps will be in a position to be players in the buy-out market.

I would think they have a buyout agreement in place where he gives up like $3 million (if not traded), so he is allowed to stay home and get paid.

Hilarious how Dragic is in the "position of power" here. If the dude refuses to play or is being cancerous to the team while he is here, fine his ass.

We could have actually him on the court or at the very least, use his roster spot. I find this whole situation pathetic from our end and something that was to be expected pre-Masai.

[ParadoxJ]

What we buying, more chevrons?

[Tha Cynic]

Random comment but Biyombo had 22 13 5 in 29 mins for the Suns today. Might have been his best game as a nba player lol.

I'm curious why we couldn't even take a shot at someone like him as a 3rd center.

Because Biyombo would not have come here, and the Raptors have a different philosophy. He was looking for a situation where a team actually values a traditional 5. The Raptors don't play that way. That's why he chose the Suns when he was ready to return after his father passed away. The Suns rely more on a tradition style of game. Another good fit for him would have been a team like the Cavs.

In fact a lot of good teams are now moving away from the whole 3 point shooting game that everyone thought this league would turn into.

[Chandan]

Beal is no Kawhi and nowhere near it. He would be a 1 year rental at best and I am not sure even with him based on what we have to give up that we are guaranteed to even be in conference finals. Beal does not guarantee we are a contender. OG is averaging 17 ppg and Beal is averaging 21.1 ppg. We would lose significant defence so this 4 points per game would help but does not put us in contender status because Beal’s defence sucks. Im not sold on selling any valuable young asset like OG for a 1 year rental who is not a strong defensive player along with their O.

that depends on if beal is having a off year, not trying too hard or dealing with injury. He was close to a 30ppg scorer last 2 years. His efficiency has dropped dramatically across the board this year.