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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1221 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:40 am

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It’s easier to parlay Wall and a 1st into a guy like Harden IMO in the summer. Wall will be a huge expiring, a 1st is a 1st.

Also Wall helps now, last year he was shooting it at a decent clip. He certainly won’t be shooting any worse than Fox does. I can also see Wall and Maxey managing to co-exist decently, Fox no way. Bagley is not even a rotation player, he doesn’t even figure into the math.


But why would the Nets care about getting a large expiring and a first over guys that can actually help them win now? Just in a pure value sense, I'd have letting Harden walk as a more desirable outcome for them than paying Wall a ridiculous sum of money for a year and a 1st way down the road.

Honestly, if we're banking on a Harden S&T, keeping Simmons is probably our best bet.


Who says BKN has to take Wall? He’ll be expiring, add the 1st to him and move him elsewhere. OKC or SAS should be willing to get paid to take Wall for a year. Then just sign Harden outright.

Also based on what we saw last year, Wall can still play as well. So it might be just as easy (or easier?) to sell BKN on taking Wall in a S&T for a year as opposed to Simmons for 3.

Either scenario works.


This is just crazy talk. Wall is cooked and the Rockets can't give him away right now. Yet you would rather have him over Fox who say what you want about his fit clearly is still a ++ asset.

The other reality is if the Rockets could they would buy out Wall and essentially release him back into the NBA for free. The only reason why that hasn't happened is Wall doesn't want to give up too much of his current deal
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1222 » by youngcrev » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:55 pm

Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1223 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:16 pm

youngcrev wrote:Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon


Is this a connective deal you had in mind for a specific Simmons trade return?

I like Gordon as a major upgrade over what we have, but I see us losing a bit of our shooting math here. Also, Green is the only guy on the roster that can make plays defensively and hit threes so I'm a little wary about parting with him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1224 » by youngcrev » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:53 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon


Is this a connective deal you had in mind for a specific Simmons trade return?

I like Gordon as a major upgrade over what we have, but I see us losing a bit of our shooting math here. Also, Green is the only guy on the roster that can make plays defensively and hit threes so I'm a little wary about parting with him.


It wouldn't necessarily have to preclude another deal.

Kork's probably not a playoff piece, and Danny's been sitting in the oven at 400 degrees a little too long.

I like his fit in a guard trio with Maxey and Curry. I think you could feel good about having him on the floor with either. Better shooter than his raw percentages have been due to pretty much all of his volume coming from above the break (this year his volume is down, but his percentages are way up). Decent defender. Gets to the rack. Just a really nice playoff piece when healthy.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1225 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:07 pm

I honestly think Danny is kind of hard to replace (especially since Daryl wasn't in on Cam Reddish). He'd the only guy on the roster that can both space the floor and generate steals/blocks. Without him, we're looking at expanded roles for Thybulle and/or Brown and the Sixers have been playing 4-on-5 offensively each time either of them are on the court. I put a lot of value in old ass Danny Green for those reasons.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1226 » by youngcrev » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:31 pm

Danny's fine. He's just really limited offensively and no longer able to guard top perimeter players. Net positive player that plays solid team defense and spaces.

I just think Gordon is quite a bit better and fills a bigger hole for the team.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1227 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:30 pm

I wouldn't do the Kork/Green for Gordon deal. To me Gordon's impact would mirror what George Hill did for us last year which was next to nothing.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1228 » by Foshan » Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:43 am

So, some people are interested in Simons (not me so much) but let’s say he is the gamble:

Simmons / Joe(?) / Bassey (?)
Simons / Powell / (little or nance?)

Having written it out I like it even less.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1229 » by PhillyNj » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:02 pm

Sixers trade Danny Green and Jaden Springer and cash considerations for:
New Orleans trades Josh Hart.
Sixers get a quality sixth man who can pass and rebound.
Pelicans get a good defender and a young prospect.

Thoughts?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1230 » by youngcrev » Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:34 am

Josh Hart isn't good enough at anything to bother IMO. Solid rotation piece, but not really what we need.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1231 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:06 am

If we don't move Simmons, I definitely look for Morey to still do something. Shake and Korkmaz have some value. We're always surprised at trades. Attaching a pick to Korkmaz or Milton but get us something better than expected. Pacers, Rockets, Blazers, Magic, Pistons, Knicks, and Spurs could all be potential sellers by the deadline. If I were Morey I'd pay close attention to those rosters. Look at all possibilities. Some names I'd like to see us go after are Doug McDermott, TRoss, LeVert, Powell, Christian Wood, and Derrick white.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1232 » by Sam Hinkie » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:09 am

Any interest in the following concept:

Harris, Powell, Favors to the Lakers

Haliburton, Covington, Dort, 2 future 1sts to the Sixers

Westbrook, Springer, 2 1sts to the Thunder

Barnes, THT to the Blazers

Simmons to the Kings



Sixers would have enough to max out Harden and re-sign Covington to a 3 year/$24 million contract. Dort is a friend of Harden's and is actually a great fit on the court with him.

Harden, Maxey
Curry, Haliburton
Dort, Thybulle
Covington, Niang
Embiid, Reed

This team is very good and balanced. Plus, they'd have two 1sts to add some pieces although matching salary might be an issue. I guess they'd also get a trade exception from this trade?

The idea might need some work. Think the Lakers would have to give up more which they don't have.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1233 » by the_process » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:46 pm

Sam Hinkie wrote:Any interest in the following concept:

Harris, Powell, Favors to the Lakers

Haliburton, Covington, Dort, 2 future 1sts to the Sixers

Westbrook, Springer, 2 1sts to the Thunder

Barnes, THT to the Blazers

Simmons to the Kings



Sixers would have enough to max out Harden and re-sign Covington to a 3 year/$24 million contract. Dort is a friend of Harden's and is actually a great fit on the court with him.

Harden, Maxey
Curry, Haliburton
Dort, Thybulle
Covington, Niang
Embiid, Reed

This team is very good and balanced. Plus, they'd have two 1sts to add some pieces although matching salary might be an issue. I guess they'd also get a trade exception from this trade?

The idea might need some work. Think the Lakers would have to give up more which they don't have.


There's been exactly one five team trade in league history.

But count me in?

Honestly, I think you have to cut either POR or SAC, or maybe even both. Then you can make separate deals with those two after the Harris dump is complete. The concept of using the Lakers to pay for dumping Harris is very smart.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1234 » by Tomjas » Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:50 pm

Sam Hinkie wrote:Any interest in the following concept:

Harris, Powell, Favors to the Lakers

Haliburton, Covington, Dort, 2 future 1sts to the Sixers

Westbrook, Springer, 2 1sts to the Thunder

Barnes, THT to the Blazers

Simmons to the Kings



Sixers would have enough to max out Harden and re-sign Covington to a 3 year/$24 million contract. Dort is a friend of Harden's and is actually a great fit on the court with him.

Harden, Maxey
Curry, Haliburton
Dort, Thybulle
Covington, Niang
Embiid, Reed

This team is very good and balanced. Plus, they'd have two 1sts to add some pieces although matching salary might be an issue. I guess they'd also get a trade exception from this trade?

The idea might need some work. Think the Lakers would have to give up more which they don't have.


Thunder has no need for Russ or Springer while Dort is important to them
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1235 » by PhillyNj » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:59 pm

youngcrev wrote:Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon

Pass,Gorden is owed a lot more money, is injury prone, and would be redundant Milton and Maxey.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1236 » by Kobblehead » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:00 pm

PhillyNj wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon

Pass,Gorden is owed a lot more money, is injury prone, and would be redundant Milton and Maxey.

Can you explain what you mean by that?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1237 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:55 pm

PhillyNj wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon

Pass,Gorden is owed a lot more money, is injury prone, and would be redundant Milton and Maxey.


I don't think the Rockets would ever accept that deal but if they did I'd make it.

I don't trust Korkmaz and Green is cooked the question would be how would he handle sharing a role with Curry and maybe coming off the bench at times.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1238 » by PhillyNj » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:45 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
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youngcrev wrote:Danny Green and Korkmaz for Eric Gordon

Pass,Gorden is owed a lot more money, is injury prone, and would be redundant Milton and Maxey.

Can you explain what you mean by that?

Well Gorden is owed 20 mil. Next year and some money the following year.
He misses a lot of games every year, The best ability is availability.
Gorden is pretty much just a scorer. So is Maxey and Milton,
Hope that answers your question.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1239 » by Stanford » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:32 pm

lol Eric Gordon would be the best perimeter scorer on this team
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1240 » by PhillyNj » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:23 pm

Stanford wrote:lol Eric Gordon would be the best perimeter scorer on this team

No shot. Especially in the 30 games he’s out injured.

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