Embiid is the Best Big man in the Game

eyeatoma · Post #161 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:13 am

You can say the exact same thing about Jokic fans. Yeah, they're not obsessed at all.

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Bum Adebayo · Post #162 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:05 pm

It has always been about playoffs performance, nobody should use RS performance as a reference to evaluate players, defense is a joke most of the time and stat padding is rampant.
Embiid simply needs to prove he has better stamina and improved clutch play in playoffs, right now it's looking good though.

rzzzzz · Post #163 » by **rzzzzz** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm

God Squad wrote:Sixers fans are way to invested in this topic, borderline obsessive.

Just celebrating. Embiid is now giving us what we’ve longed hoped for, but dared not expect.

Cubbies2120 · Post #164 » by **Cubbies2120** » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:27 am

Hussien Fatal wrote:People bringin up Jokic game is hilarious, yes he balled out but he needed Overtime and 41 minutes while Joel scored 50 in regulation 27 minutes(3 blocks). If Joel played more than 2 minutes in the 4th he woulda had 60. Also Joel shot a better percentage last night. So in 14 more minutes Jokic scored 1 less point. Joel was simply more impressive.

At least Jokic didn't blow a 20+ point lead to the same Clippers B-squad :lol:

eyeatoma · Post #165 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:29 am

For the Jokic stans to say that we're obsessed with Embiid, but always quick to come to the thread to say I told you so. LMAO! Seems pretty sus

Hussien Fatal · Post #166 » by **Hussien Fatal** » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:31 am

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:People bringin up Jokic game is hilarious, yes he balled out but he needed Overtime and 41 minutes while Joel scored 50 in regulation 27 minutes(3 blocks). If Joel played more than 2 minutes in the 4th he woulda had 60. Also Joel shot a better percentage last night. So in 14 more minutes Jokic scored 1 less point. Joel was simply more impressive.

At least Jokic didn't blow a 20+ point lead to the same Clippers B-squad

Joel 90 points in 2 games. But to me this is the worst list of the season for the Sixers up 24 and a L. But get back to me when Jokic scores 90 points in a two game span.

Jazz9 · Post #167 » by **Jazz9** » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:32 am

God Squad wrote:Sixers fans are way to invested in this topic, borderline obsessive.

Seriously...

We get it, you think your guy's the best.
The majority of us don't, let it go.

Cubbies2120 · Post #168 » by **Cubbies2120** » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:52 am

Hussien Fatal wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:People bringin up Jokic game is hilarious, yes he balled out but he needed Overtime and 41 minutes while Joel scored 50 in regulation 27 minutes(3 blocks). If Joel played more than 2 minutes in the 4th he woulda had 60. Also Joel shot a better percentage last night. So in 14 more minutes Jokic scored 1 less point. Joel was simply more impressive.

At least Jokic didn't blow a 20+ point lead to the same Clippers B-squad

Joel 90 points in 2 games. But to me this is the worst list of the season for the Sixers up 24 and a L. But get back to me when Jokic scores 90 points in a two game span.

Get back to me when Embiid wins MVP, or makes it out of the 2nd round 8-)

johanliebert · Post #169 » by **johanliebert** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:32 pm

Had to go to the 3rd page for an Embiid thread. If Jokic was putting up these stats we’d know what the narrative would be. Unlike Jokic the stats here pass the eye test and he does it with less talent around him.

Sgt Major · Post #170 » by **Sgt Major** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:40 pm

Yeah, Philly's supporting cast is worse than Denver's.

Maybe in Dimension X

Johnny Firpo · Post #171 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:43 pm

johanliebert wrote:Had to go to the 3rd page for an Embiid thread. If Jokic was putting up these stats we’d know what the narrative would be. Unlike Jokic the stats here pass the eye test and he does it with less talent around him.

How in the world the stats do not match the eye-test with Jokic? Never even mind your other statement, that's ludicrous. :lol:

ShouldaPaidBG · Post #172 » by **ShouldaPaidBG** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:13 pm

Embiid's skill level is proof of the Process. I hate everyone that complained and caused the Sixers to fire Hinkie. We missed out on a potential marvel.

ty 4191 · Post #173 » by **ty 4191** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:40 pm

Hussien Fatal wrote: All Joel needs to do is play the rest of the season and the MVP is his.

Yeah. Good luck with that, homes... :lol:

(He's missed 310 of the Sixers 639 games since his career started.)

ty 4191 · Post #174 » by **ty 4191** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:49 pm

johanliebert wrote:Jokic does it with less talent around him.

This is actually quantifiably false.

Denver's Win Shares minus Jokic this year: 15.1. Jokic accounts for 35% of the team's value.

76ers Win Shares minus Embiid this year: 19.9. Embiid accounts for 24% of the team's value.

BrianFitz · Post #175 » by **BrianFitz** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:54 pm

BostonCouchGM wrote:unlike Jokic, who I love, Embiid actually plays solid defense. He's clearly the league's best center

If you don't think Jokic plays "solid defense" then it's clear you just don't watch Nuggets games.

BrianFitz · Post #176 » by **BrianFitz** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:55 pm

ty 4191 wrote:
johanliebert wrote:Jokic does it with less talent around him.

This is actually quantifiably false.

Denver's Win Shares minus Jokic this year: 15.1. Jokic accounts for 35% of the team's value.

76ers Win Shares minus Embiid this year: 19.9. Embiid accounts for 24% of the team's value.

But the statistics you posted verify what he said.

Lockdown504090 · Post #177 » by **Lockdown504090** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:56 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:It has always been about playoffs performance, nobody should use RS performance as a reference to evaluate players, defense is a joke most of the time and stat padding is rampant.
Embiid simply needs to prove he has better stamina and improved clutch play in playoffs, right now it's looking good though.

To me, watching them all this year is that he plays these low minutes and they run every single thing with the goal of getting him the ball. Then he comes off the floor, and they dont know what theyre doing because everything is running through joel. Not good.

Then when it gets to the playoffs and teams play defense, they still dont know what to do, and joel is tired because hes playing 38 minutes instead of 32, AND he has to be the defensive anchor. They need to get him doing less and playing longer, and playing more defense. That goes for him Giannis(when he starts bricking fts and making bad decisions due to fatigue) Jokic, Ja morant. Personally, i think they are all doing WAY too much offensively in the minutes theyre on the floor(giannis this goes for the least)

ty 4191 · Post #178 » by **ty 4191** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:00 pm

BrianFitz wrote:But the statistics you posted verify what he said.

You have it backwards. Embiid's teammates are more valuable than Jokic' this season.

maxpower8888 · Post #179 » by **maxpower8888** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:38 pm

ty 4191 wrote:
BrianFitz wrote:But the statistics you posted verify what he said.

You have it backwards. Embiid's teammates are more valuable than Jokic' this season.

You have it backwards, that's exactly what the poster was saying when he said Jokic does it with less.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #180 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:46 pm

The Sixers have been 6th defensively over the last 15 games, ie. Embiid is back to being elite defensively. Thybulle has missed several games over that stretch.

Joel Embiid is the best Big Man in the game