Spencer 'Crypto' Dinwiddie Thread (He's Amazingly Sucky BTW)

[FAH1223]

What is going on with this guy? I don't think he's terrible - maybe he's just a bad fit? He plays a lot more like Satoransky than Westbrook or Wall.

The first few games of the season, when the team actually passed the ball, Dinwiddie put up some good numbers. The past several games, when it's been disjointed hero ball, he's been garbage.

Or maybe he's injured and sucks?

Let's trade him to Detroit for Corey Joseph and Frank Jackson

[queridiculo]

Spencer having a hard time fitting with a ball dominant two guard that can't shoot the 3 isn't that surprising.

That isn't to say I like SD that much but the ideal fit next to this version of Brad was Lonzo. Non ball dominant guards that can move the ball but play strong D and shoot the 3 well.

Dinwiddie's struggles have very little to do with Beal.

Dude's fastest pace is meandering, he doesn't defend a lick and chucks up pull up threes and step back threes as if he's some sort of Harden/Curry chimera.

[WallToWall]

What happened to the player who started the first 15 games? That player was driving to the rim, making shots and dishing it pretty well, off the drive. For whatever reason, he stopped or can no longer do this as much. Is it better opponent defense? Or is it the role he plays? Or is it him? Or all of the above?

[doclinkin]

Chemistry-wise Dinwiddie is a ball stopper. Players will swing the ball crisply while the defense scrambles to chase it, then it hits Cryptoboy and the ball sticks while he dribbles and surveys the floor and the defense re-sets. It kills momentum and fails to reward with an assist the guys who gave the ball up unselfishly.

[dlts20]

Does a crypto contract make it harder or easier to trade

[Dolevi]

What is going on with this guy? I don't think he's terrible - maybe he's just a bad fit? He plays a lot more like Satoransky than Westbrook or Wall.

The first few games of the season, when the team actually passed the ball, Dinwiddie put up some good numbers. The past several games, when it's been disjointed hero ball, he's been garbage.

Or maybe he's injured and sucks?

I gotta agree that overall Spencer isn't a bad basketball player. He has the skills and the abilities to score in many ways, he showed that in earlier in this season and we know him as a player. Sounds familiar? that's right, if you won't notice, you may think i just talked about Beal. You play with 2 gunners on the court at the same time that hugs the ball whenever they can and don't want it to leave, especially when they both play at the same time (and it's reasonable, because then they both have less shots to take, so they force themselves over the game and make bad plays from point of "pressure to get to my stats").

Beal and Dinwiddie are both that kind of player with the name "scorer". And because of that title, they want to put as many points they can in a regular game. maybe only if one of them is playing, he can be good and let the game flows, but they are both SCORERS in their Basketball DNA. If you will play them as a Point guards, you actually hurt your team's performance cause it will be hard for your teammates to get into a rythem in the game. They will create for themselves FIRST before thinking about the team, and that way other players can't get any rythem. And if you play them both at the same time - what you get is a disaster with 2 hungry players for points at the same time struggling into the pressure to impact the game in their SAME way. The result - They chasing their stats more than usual as they will get less shots. A total disaster. Not just for the team's performance but also for team's spirit and mental health (we all saw the silence at the timeout).

You need a true point guard in basketball. It doesn't mean he must be short / very fast, he just needs to be able to handle the ball (also under pressure), lead it safely to the other half court and take good decisions by sharing it with his friends, by making the right plays and passes when needed in order to maximize the team's chances to score somehow. Conclusion - he needs a high BBIQ, and he needs to be unselfish. Are Beal / Dinwiddie unselfish? I think we all know the answer for this.

Just play with Deni as a point forward until you bring a true good caliber PG for this team. As for the future that might be Deni's role if he will get better in offense overall. I think the potential is there. As for Dinwiddie - just trade him and keep Beal as your main scorer. Or you'll keep Dinwiddie at the bench as a backup for Beal, But i don't think it's a possible outcome because he won't be happy.

[DCZards]

^^^^ I disagree with most of this, Dolevi. Yes, Beal and Dinwiddie are much more scoring guards than they are point guards and playmakers. And that's a problem.

But I don't think either of them are selfish or just out there looking to get their own points or stats. I believe both Beal and Spencer are more interested in winning than scoring.(BTW, Beal is averaging a career high in assists.)

Fact is, Beal and Dinwiddie HAVE to look for their shots because they are by far the two best and most capable Zards at creating shots for themselves. (Personally, I'd like to see Dinwiddie be even more aggressive in looking for his shot.) The lack of players with the ability to create for themselves is one of this team's major weaknesses.

The Zards desperately need a playmaking PG...someone capable of taking that responsibility off of Beal and Dinwiddie so that they can play their more natural--at least in Beal's case--off-the-ball roles.

[WallToWall]

There should be a rotation between Beal and Din. We have a good problem - finding time for 2 capable SG's who can create their own shots and, if the shot is not there, pass the ball. They cant play together. So why not give more minutes to whoever is having the better game? If we plan to keep Beal and Din past the trade deadline, then we should focus on adding an effective true PG to the team.

[FAH1223]

Look what Beal did to this man

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[NatP4]

Not a good culture in DC anymore. Need a massive overhaul. It’s so obviously time to move on from Beal and rebuild.

This organization needs young core players that create excitement for the future.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Not a good culture in DC anymore. Need a massive overhaul. It’s so obviously time to move on from Beal and rebuild.

This organization needs young core players that create excitement for the future.

Honestly as much as I’ve dumped on Dinwiddie this season, and he still does a lot of stupid basketball that has nothing to do with Beal, all roads lead to Beal with this team.

The well has been poisoned with Beal. You don’t think the players on this team haven’t looked at the box score, haven’t noticed the play of Bradley Beal on the court? What kind of signal does it send to other players when a franchise has bent this far over backwards to accommodate a player like Beal based on what he’s giving this team? I’m going to make an educated guess and say it’s not a good look.

[Troubadour]

Can someone help me understand why Dinwiddie is so much better in games when Beal doesn't play?

[penbeast0]

He has the ball in his hands more and isn't deferring to the established star? That's the conventional wisdom anyway.

[Troubadour]

He has the ball in his hands more and isn't deferring to the established star? That's the conventional wisdom anyway.

It's just interesting because the shooting splits are so much worse with Beal out there too. My working theory is that Dinwiddie would be great in a sixth man role for the Raptors. Still working out what the trade would be.

[FAH1223]

He has the ball in his hands more and isn't deferring to the established star? That's the conventional wisdom anyway.

It's just interesting because the shooting splits are so much worse with Beal out there too. My working theory is that Dinwiddie would be great in a sixth man role for the Raptors. Still working out what the trade would be.

Beal told Dinwiddie to STFU and ever since then he’s played bad next to Beal

That’s all I can gather listening to this

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[ozthegap]

He has the ball in his hands more and isn't deferring to the established star? That's the conventional wisdom anyway.

It's just interesting because the shooting splits are so much worse with Beal out there too. My working theory is that Dinwiddie would be great in a sixth man role for the Raptors. Still working out what the trade would be.

Beal told Dinwiddie to STFU and ever since then he’s played bad next to Beal

That’s all I can gather listening to this

Watch on YouTube

Didn’t Paul Pierce say something similar right after he left. Something to the effect of there are players on the roster who aren’t open to doing things in a different way than they’re used to doing them. Beal is the only person left from that team but I always felt he was talking mainly about wall and Beal anyway

[9 and 20]

It's definitely approaching dumpster fire levels. Players are a half step from calling each other out in the media. The 'star' player playing like garbage and calling out the offseason's big free agent/trade acquisition. The team's two Euro forwards probably hate each other - one a recent draft pick and the other a recent big re-signing. Probably another conflict or two simmering.

The guy who is playing the best, Kuzma, seems like kind of a space cadet. Shows up to games looking like Voltron. He's not really the leader type, you might say.

The newly re-signed center who's playing well gets benched so two impending free agents can play more?? Inmates running the asylum is right.

If they were playing well and not getting along, that's one thing, but the stink is now off the court, too.

Tommy and Wes should have been on top this.

[payitforward]

Spencer Dinwiddie hasn't been as bad as everyone would like to make out. Not saying he's been terrific.

Overall, he has certainly played better than Brad.

[Frichuela]

Not a surprise, it's obvious that this locker room is having issues..

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265607/Spencer-Dinwiddie-Speaking-Up-In-Washington-Wasnt-Welcomed

[Frichuela]

Oh dear...

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