If It Is To Be Said. So It Be. So It Is. The First Deadline Trade Thread.

[GoCeltics123]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

[Larry_Russell]

still really intrigued by THT..

Watch on YouTube

if LA took Schroeder for him...

Thinking win-now/later-ish:

Kelly Olynyk would be perfect as a 4/5 off the bench. Don't know if a deal works, but he's a glue guy, floor spacer, and a little bit of a scorer.

JRich should be on the way out - he's blocking Romeo and Nesmith, playoff teams could use him. Don't know who'll pay up, though.

1. Josh, Schroeder to LAL
Kendrick Nunn to team X
THT to BOS

2. Smart to DAL
Brunson and Olynyk to BOS
Dwight Powell and protected DAL 1st to DET

Brunson/THT/Pritchard + Dozier IL
Brown/Romeo(/THT)
Tatum/Nesmith
Al/Grant/Bruno
Rob/Olynyk/Enes + Bol IL

Ime's forced to play the young wings, gets another vet big he can rely on, we add a young prospect with Talen and gamble on Brunson. We drop like six million under the tax, start up the repeater clock next year if we can keep Brunson, with the flexibility to get back under by trading Olynyk. Brunson helps us offensively this year - he can shoot in the midrange and finish at the rim, very different look offensively, can play on and off the ball.

IDK man, ~25% from 3 over his career with no sign of improvement?

[Larry_Russell]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

Wonder who the teams are though.

[GoCeltics123]

Read on Twitter

Woah

"Harden has been vocal to Nets figures and close contacts alike about his frustrations regarding Kyrie Irving's part-time playing status. A recent injury to Kevin Durant has exacerbated the issue, leaving Harden to shoulder the majority of the offensive burden during Brooklyn home games.

Nets coach Steve Nash's fluid rotations have also disappointed Harden, sources told B/R. Nash has favored hot-hand closing lineups, rather than a fixed crunch-time unit. "

"His new city could also be an issue. According to multiple sources, Harden has not enjoyed living in Brooklyn, compared to his days as a central Houston magnate. Outside of the change in climate, the chasm between state taxes in New York versus Texas is quite obvious as well.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I do wonder what's going to happen with Brooklyn. Harden could potentially leave and Brooklyn already said they're not resigning Irving. I think if hardened leaves they will absolutely resign Irving.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

Wonder who the teams are though.

Lakers
Clippers
Miami.
Brooklyn
New York.

The usual teams that every single person wants to play for

[Andrew McCeltic]

still really intrigued by THT..

Watch on YouTube

if LA took Schroeder for him...

Thinking win-now/later-ish:

Kelly Olynyk would be perfect as a 4/5 off the bench. Don't know if a deal works, but he's a glue guy, floor spacer, and a little bit of a scorer.

JRich should be on the way out - he's blocking Romeo and Nesmith, playoff teams could use him. Don't know who'll pay up, though.

1. Josh, Schroeder to LAL
Kendrick Nunn to team X
THT to BOS

2. Smart to DAL
Brunson and Olynyk to BOS
Dwight Powell and protected DAL 1st to DET

Brunson/THT/Pritchard + Dozier IL
Brown/Romeo(/THT)
Tatum/Nesmith
Al/Grant/Bruno
Rob/Olynyk/Enes + Bol IL

Ime's forced to play the young wings, gets another vet big he can rely on, we add a young prospect with Talen and gamble on Brunson. We drop like six million under the tax, start up the repeater clock next year if we can keep Brunson, with the flexibility to get back under by trading Olynyk. Brunson helps us offensively this year - he can shoot in the midrange and finish at the rim, very different look offensively, can play on and off the ball.

IDK man, ~25% from 3 over his career with no sign of improvement?

charmless comment

[chrisab123]

Doesn't sound like Stevens wants to replace vets with more vets who would keep our youngsters on the bench.

It depends what youngsters he wants to bring in. But the answer is not internally. Say if Romeo does develop past jobber status hes not going to be a key guy. Nesmith and Prichard have been very hit and miss. Grant Williams should be moved etc. There's ways to infuse a roster with youth but not go full Sacramento Kings. Ironically enough probably by making a deal with the Kings. Get a Bagley, Hield along with Barnes and you're now adding a potential rotation guy on your team in Bagley. He has that ceiling. Will he ever reach it? Maybe not but he does have more of a chance of hitting it than say anyone else mentioned.

[Larry_Russell]

I do wonder what's going to happen with Brooklyn. Harden could potentially leave and Brooklyn already said they're not resigning Irving. I think if hardened leaves they will absolutely resign Irving.

I feel that they would have to try at least.

I enjoy it.

Almost as much as what Philly's return will be for Simmons (not harden, and what will surely push philly fans off the edge)

Almost as much a delusional Sacramento fans that think that Buddy and Mitchell are more valuable than Brown

[chrisab123]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

Wonder who the teams are though.

Lakers
Clippers
Miami.
Brooklyn
New York.

The usual teams that every single person wants to play for

GSW can be added to that list too. New Arena, investment opportunities and weather/nightlife.

[Larry_Russell]

Doesn't sound like Stevens wants to replace vets with more vets who would keep our youngsters on the bench.

It depends what youngsters he wants to bring in. But the answer is not internally. Say if Romeo does develop past jobber status hes not going to be a key guy. Nesmith and Prichard have been very hit and miss. Grant Williams should be moved etc. There's ways to infuse a roster with youth but not go full Sacramento Kings. Ironically enough probably by making a deal with the Kings. Get a Bagley, Hield along with Barnes and you're now adding a potential rotation guy on your team in Bagley. He has that ceiling. Will he ever reach it? Maybe not but he does have more of a chance of hitting it than say anyone else mentioned.

Been looking at Kings fans posts, we dont have enough talent to be able to get any of their guys.

[Larry_Russell]

still really intrigued by THT..

Watch on YouTube

if LA took Schroeder for him...

Thinking win-now/later-ish:

Kelly Olynyk would be perfect as a 4/5 off the bench. Don't know if a deal works, but he's a glue guy, floor spacer, and a little bit of a scorer.

JRich should be on the way out - he's blocking Romeo and Nesmith, playoff teams could use him. Don't know who'll pay up, though.

1. Josh, Schroeder to LAL
Kendrick Nunn to team X
THT to BOS

2. Smart to DAL
Brunson and Olynyk to BOS
Dwight Powell and protected DAL 1st to DET

Brunson/THT/Pritchard + Dozier IL
Brown/Romeo(/THT)
Tatum/Nesmith
Al/Grant/Bruno
Rob/Olynyk/Enes + Bol IL

Ime's forced to play the young wings, gets another vet big he can rely on, we add a young prospect with Talen and gamble on Brunson. We drop like six million under the tax, start up the repeater clock next year if we can keep Brunson, with the flexibility to get back under by trading Olynyk. Brunson helps us offensively this year - he can shoot in the midrange and finish at the rim, very different look offensively, can play on and off the ball.

IDK man, ~25% from 3 over his career with no sign of improvement?

charmless comment

Lol, nice.

[chrisab123]

Read on Twitter

Woah

"Harden has been vocal to Nets figures and close contacts alike about his frustrations regarding Kyrie Irving's part-time playing status. A recent injury to Kevin Durant has exacerbated the issue, leaving Harden to shoulder the majority of the offensive burden during Brooklyn home games.

Nets coach Steve Nash's fluid rotations have also disappointed Harden, sources told B/R. Nash has favored hot-hand closing lineups, rather than a fixed crunch-time unit. "

"His new city could also be an issue. According to multiple sources, Harden has not enjoyed living in Brooklyn, compared to his days as a central Houston magnate. Outside of the change in climate, the chasm between state taxes in New York versus Texas is quite obvious as well.

This dude is dying to go to Miami. He was probably pissed that NYC shut down their strip clubs for a while. Im convinced that Miami is #1 with a bullet for Harden.

[chrisab123]

Doesn't sound like Stevens wants to replace vets with more vets who would keep our youngsters on the bench.

It depends what youngsters he wants to bring in. But the answer is not internally. Say if Romeo does develop past jobber status hes not going to be a key guy. Nesmith and Prichard have been very hit and miss. Grant Williams should be moved etc. There's ways to infuse a roster with youth but not go full Sacramento Kings. Ironically enough probably by making a deal with the Kings. Get a Bagley, Hield along with Barnes and you're now adding a potential rotation guy on your team in Bagley. He has that ceiling. Will he ever reach it? Maybe not but he does have more of a chance of hitting it than say anyone else mentioned.

Been looking at Kings fans posts, we dont have enough talent to be able to get any of their guys.

I disagree with that. Hield is a net negative there and Bagley racked up his fair share of DNPs

[Larry_Russell]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

Wonder who the teams are though.

Lakers
Clippers
Miami.
Brooklyn
New York.

The usual teams that every single person wants to play for

Yeah, Maybe.

Lakers I get
Brooklyn too if he thinks he can win.

Will any of those teams outside of NYK give him the contact he wants though?

[GoCeltics123]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

Wonder who the teams are though.

Lakers
Clippers
Miami.
Brooklyn
New York.

The usual teams that every single person wants to play for

Lol fair.

Apparently he wants to be a #1 or #2 option though so those teams will probably pass on him. And apparently a 4 year $112 million extension (yikes). I can totally see the Wizards for him

[playa-hater]

Since the team is struggling so badly with no quick fix I think the main goal is just getting under the cap. I wouldn't expect much in the way of returns assuming the Celtics even make any trades. I still don't think smart is going anywhere

Sounds to me that Stevens and Udoka are not on the same page. Stevens brought Udoka in partly to develop the Celtics young talent. Instead Udoka leans on the vets (Richardson, Schroder, Horford) and benches the young players (Langford, Nesmith, Pritchard, Hauser etc.).

I am expecting Stevens to move Schroder, Richardson and maybe but less likely Horford. I think Langford, Nesmith, Pritchard and Hauser get a ton of playing time the 2nd half of the year mainly because Udoka is going to have no choice.

Just my opinion.

please don't tease me..

[greenroom31]

Didn't see Bulpett's article posted here yet (maybe I missed it) so here it is: https://heavy.com/sports/boston-celtics/nba-trade-deadline-brad-stevens/

Some quotes from the article:

At this stage, sources are indicating that first-year head of basketball operations Brad Stevens is at the very least looking to unload some salary cap burden (as he did in moving Juancho Hernangomez last week) and clear a path for Payton Pritchard, Aaron Nesmith and Romeo Langford to get more playing time.

The first two of the latter trio were essentially buried when the Celtics acquired Schroder and Richardson in the offseason. The idea was to get more experience around Tatum and Brown, and the vets have had some very good games. But, for many reasons, the mix hasn’t yet worked to a satisfactory extent. Much can be attributed to poor execution, but there is clearly a need for the kind of shooting the young three have shown in flashes.

Word is 19-year-old center Alperen Sengun was the Celts’ guy if they had kept the pick — and OKC ended up making him the choice and dealing him to Houston.

“He’s a tough kid,” said one NBA personnel man of the 6-9 Sengun. “He’s a little raw, but he’s been playing with adults overseas for years. He’s going to be good. Him and (Rob) Williams would be a really good tandem.”

[playa-hater]

Jerami Grant giving the Pistons a list of teams he wants to go to is funny.

Who do he think he is? A star? Lol

are we on that list??

[ddb]

Based on the move we've already seen (Bol Bol & Dozier) with the purpose of getting closer to below the tax line, I find it hard to believe that Brad Stevens is going to do ANYTHING this season that brings back significant money. He's going to unload a couple guys in exchange for whatever draft capital he can get, plus a couple more fringe NBA players who won't be in Bostons long-term plans.

Smart as usual, has his name flying around in trade rumors....Nothing new there. Happens every year. The only difference is Brad Stevens is at the helm now calling the shots. So there's more intrigue around the possibility of a Smart deal because we don't know if Smart was a Danny guy or a Danny/Brad guy. I have a feeling that Smart is far more a Danny guy and if the right deal is on the table, Brad will trade him. But again, even if a big trade involving Smart goes down, it would have to be for a player making equal to or less money...or to a team with a good size TPE. Then you have to factor in how trading smart makes Tatum/Brown feel? Moving Smart is a bold move, could be the right move, but you HAVE to bring back an impact player with a strong personality in return....No idea who that player could be????

Schroder is gone. 2 2nd rd picks is what I predicted months ago. I stand by that...Sadly, maybe even 1 2nd round pick is what Boston ends up with.
I can see Kanter and/or Bruno or Bol being dumped.

I think Richardson/Horford are being discussed, but that's more Brad setting the tone for this offseason. Gauging what their value will be this offseason.
I'm thinking the goal post-deadline is for Tatum, Brown, Williams, Richardson, Horford, Pritchard, Grant, Nesmith, Romeo, and probably Smart to remain on the roster. Because again, I cannot see Brad just trading Smart to trade Smart. It would have to be a good balanced trade...

Back to Smart. Which teams would want a player like Smart? It would have to be a team that feels that Smart is the missing piece. Remember, he just signed a good sized ticket this past offseason.
Off the top of my head I came up with the following teams that could make sense to acquire Smart.

-Memphis
-Dallas
-Lakers (gross)
-Bulls
-Suns
-Utah
-Denver


What could a possible trade look like? Here's what I came up with. And just because I share this doesn't mean I like this. Some I like more than others....

Memphis: Marcus Smart for Tyus Jones & Tyrell Terry.
I don't mind this trade for Boston. Tyus Jones is a good player. Natural PG. Pretty good defender and a really steady PG. Ideally, a backup PG, but I think he could start for Boston for the remainder of the season. Terry is a young player, major upside as a shooter. Take a chance on him even though he hasn't proven anything yet...still only 21 and in his 2nd season.

Dallas: Marcus Smart for Kleber & Burke. I don't like this deal for Boston at all.

Lakers: Marcus Smart/Langford for Horton-Tucker/Nunn. Sure why not. Especially if Horton-Tucker has the upside people seem to think he has.

Bulls: Smart & Nesmith for White & Jones Jr. I sorta like this trade for Boston. Coby White is going to end up being a really good 6th man. But he could start for now and have an opportunity to play with the Js. He's more of a scorer, but this season should be all about building value. Jones Jr would be a FUN 4....Having him fly around would be impactful..

Suns: Smart for Cam Payne & Jalen Smith. Not sure I like this for Boston.

Utah: Smart for Ingles & a 1st rd pick. Not sure I like it for Boston. Or Smart/Schroder for Bogdanovic. Weirdly, I love this for Boston...the 2nd trade. I've always liked Bogdanovic. 6'7, 18ppg. 40% from 3. Handles pretty well and would take A LOT of pressure off the J's. Easy to flip this offseason if it doesn't work out, or as part of a bigger trade (Beal).

Denver: Smart/Bruno for Morris/NNaji/Campazzo. Sign me up.