Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks

[Turk Nowitzki]

I've been staying off this board just because that's what I try to do now after playoff losses but how the **** does Maurice Drayton still have a job?

[PintSizedBox10]

It's great to be competitive but I won't lie the thought of watching a rebuild sounds fun. I'm still in the camp of getting whatever we can for Rodgers and trying to win while Love is playing for peanuts. I do however think some folks are overestimating the type of package we'd receive for Rodgers.

[M-C-G]

I've been staying off this board just because that's what I try to do now after playoff losses but how the **** does Maurice Drayton still have a job?

The obvious answer is firing him too soon after the season makes MLF look bad. Pretending they are actually evaluating things, watching film and reflecting on the season in order to make a measured decision makes MLF look less bad. The end result will undoubtedly be the same, another new ST coordinator.

[M-C-G]

It's great to be competitive but I won't lie the thought of watching a rebuild sounds fun.

Yeah, I think this thought is illogical to your typical fans that have had long suffering tenures. But I am in the same boat and knew this had to happen at some point, which is why I thought it was pretty wise to draft a QB of the future, or at least start that process.

It's why so many fans will give us a 'careful what you wish for' and I get it, fandom might be tough, wins may be harder to come by and further apart, but I suspect the frustration will actually be less. Almost like a nice mental health thing to lower my expectations of this team for a couple of seasons.

[MickeyDavis]

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[WeekapaugGroove]

It's great to be competitive but I won't lie the thought of watching a rebuild sounds fun.

Yeah, I think this thought is illogical to your typical fans that have had long suffering tenures. But I am in the same boat and knew this had to happen at some point, which is why I thought it was pretty wise to draft a QB of the future, or at least start that process.

It's why so many fans will give us a 'careful what you wish for' and I get it, fandom might be tough, wins may be harder to come by and further apart, but I suspect the frustration will actually be less. Almost like a nice mental health thing to lower my expectations of this team for a couple of seasons.

Yeah not illogical at all for a Packer fans to feel this way. Sometimes you just need something/anything different. This **** feels like groundhogs day.

I'm old enough to remember when the Packers sucked and I get that if they suck again for a decade we'll be longing for the days of a 10 win season. I'm also generally not a championship or it's all a waste of time sports fan... But that's exactly how I've felt about the Packers the past 2 years to the point I really don't get much enjoyment watching a regular season win.

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[humanrefutation]

The only reason I am "Super Bowl or bust" with this team is that we've got a four time MVP at QB who is a lock for the first ballot of the HOF and one of the greatest to ever play his position. To have a player of that caliber at the most important position necessarily raises my expectations - and they've been sky high these last two seasons with HFA.

[MickeyDavis]

Just get into the playoffs in the NFL and you have a legit shot. Packers last SB was won as a #6 (when there were only 6). Tampa won as a 5 last year. Bengals and Rams are a 4, Niners a 6.

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[Ron Swanson]

If the embarrassing way the season ended served Aaron some humble pie and made him more willing to restructure/allow both him and Davante to come back, then you do it. Otherwise, **** off. I'm just sick of the drama.

Throw Love out there to sink or swim, and invest in the defense and skill positions. You can turn it around easily in the NFL if you draft well (see: Bengals), so I don't buy that "we're gonna suck for a few years" as being inevitable. Much easier when you have the established HC and front office already in place.

[Iheartfootball]

If the embarrassing way the season ended served Aaron some humble pie and made him more willing to restructure/allow both him and Davante to come back, then you do it. Otherwise, **** off. I'm just sick of the drama.

Throw Love out there to sink or swim, and invest in the defense and skill positions. You can turn it around easily in the NFL if you draft well (see: Bengals), so I don't buy that "we're gonna suck for a few years" as being inevitable. Much easier when you have the established HC and front office already in place.

I tend to agree with this. At first, I thought it may be a decade-long rebuild but that's the old NFL. There is so much parity and with a decent F.O. and coaching staff, they can be competitive. A few decent drafts and you can restock cheaply.

What I'm unsure of is how long it will be before they have another great QB. That may take some time. In this league, 9 times out of 10, the team that goes all the way has a great QB at the helm.

It will be nice to not have to worry about expectations for a while. I fully expect mediocre play for a few seasons at least (barring some drastic update in FA or a crazy great draft).

[coolhandluke121]

Yeah, no need to tank. If it happens, so be it, but they could be good with a mediocre QB and a solid run game + defense.

Bottom line, bring back any good players who want to be back and can help make it work financially. Otherwise, no offense but see ya. Personally I'm intrigued about what Douglas said about wanting to be back and not being too worried about money. If Campbell feels the same way, I'd honestly be more excited about a defense + run game paradigm than if Rodgers restructures on a big deal that kicks the can way down the road but costs them a bunch of good defenders.

[FAH1223]

If the embarrassing way the season ended served Aaron some humble pie and made him more willing to restructure/allow both him and Davante to come back, then you do it. Otherwise, **** off. I'm just sick of the drama.

Throw Love out there to sink or swim, and invest in the defense and skill positions. You can turn it around easily in the NFL if you draft well (see: Bengals), so I don't buy that "we're gonna suck for a few years" as being inevitable. Much easier when you have the established HC and front office already in place.

I tend to agree with this. At first, I thought it may be a decade-long rebuild but that's the old NFL. There is so much parity and with a decent F.O. and coaching staff, they can be competitive. A few decent drafts and you can restock cheaply.

What I'm unsure of is how long it will be before they have another great QB. That may take some time. In this league, 9 times out of 10, the team that goes all the way has a great QB at the helm.

It will be nice to not have to worry about expectations for a while. I fully expect mediocre play for a few seasons at least (barring some drastic update in FA or a crazy great draft).

Yeah, no need to tank. If it happens, so be it, but they could be good with a mediocre QB and a solid run game + defense.

Bottom line, bring back any good players who want to be back and can help make it work financially. Otherwise, no offense but see ya. Personally I'm intrigued about what Douglas said about wanting to be back and not being too worried about money. If Campbell feels the same way, I'd honestly be more excited about a defense + run game paradigm than if Rodgers restructures on a big deal that kicks the can way down the road but costs them a bunch of good defenders.

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[jakecronus8]

I’m getting the sense that most of Packers fans are ready to move on from Rodgers. If he can’t be the same guy in the postseason it doesn’t justify the salary.

[tski1972]

The only reason I am "Super Bowl or bust" with this team is that we've got a four time MVP at QB who is a lock for the first ballot of the HOF and one of the greatest to ever play his position. To have a player of that caliber at the most important position necessarily raises my expectations - and they've been sky high these last two seasons with HFA.

This just happened the last two seasons and the results have been “bust”.

“fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

[FAH1223]

I’m getting the sense that most of Packers fans are ready to move on from Rodgers. If he can’t be the same guy in the postseason it doesn’t justify the salary.

But the suits in the front office don't have faith in Love yet. I doubt LaFleur does either.

They will advocate for what's best for their jobs and even if they can't stand the 12 circus, they'll put up with it for another year or two.

[MickeyDavis]

I’m getting the sense that most of Packers fans are ready to move on from Rodgers. If he can’t be the same guy in the postseason it doesn’t justify the salary.

But the suits in the front office don't have faith in Love yet. I doubt LaFleur does either.

They will advocate for what's best for their jobs and even if they can't stand the 12 circus, they'll put up with it for another year or two.

That's a key. If they truly believe Love is a solid starter now they wouldn't hesitate to move on. Just as they did with Favre/Rodgers. They saw enough of Rodgers to have confidence in him. Obviously he wasn't MVP caliber out of the gate. And Love still has time to improve. My gut feeling is Love hasn't shown enough in practice to be given the keys yet. Of course if AR wants to bolt then the decision is made for us. Sure we don't have to trade him if he wants to be traded but we will.

[th87]

Bridgewater makes no sense, I'm sorry. The Packers aren't going to contend if Rodgers leaves, so playing a 29 year old journeyman would be stupid. Love is going into his third year and 100% needs to be the guy. Let him show off what he can or can't do. Maybe he shows enough and looks like the clear guy going forward, or maybe he bombs and the Packers are looking at Stroud or Young in 2023.

Either way, they need to play Love and preferably without an average vet looking over his shoulder. See: Tua and Fitzmagic.

I mentioned up above, if they think Love is ready, that is my preference. I also think having Bridgewater(or insert any vet here) be the guy that starts after Rodgers even for a half season takes a tone of pressure off Love. They go from loathing that they don't have Rodgers to looking forward to when they get to see Love make some starts.

But I get your point, just don't see us doing that.

Bridgewater would win us 8-9 games. Would rather win 4 or so with Love, load up in the next draft, and then see what's up at the end of next season. If Love somehow wins 9, we have hit the jackpot again, and the analysis changes.

[M-C-G]

Bridgewater would win us 8-9 games. Would rather win 4 or so with Love, load up in the next draft, and then see what's up at the end of next season. If Love somehow wins 9, we have hit the jackpot again, and the analysis changes.

I don't like that I am 'championing' for Bridgewater, because I don't really want to, but with that said, I feel like his skill set is a great fit for MLF playcalling and given the state of the nfc north, I really wouldn't be shocked if we are able to bring most everyone back AND the team doesn't think Love is ready to start yet (again, this is my personal preference), he could sneak us into the playoffs.

All comes down to how ready the front office feels Love is.

[Treebeard]

Via Packers.com (Jan 25)

The Green Bay Packers signed QB Kurt Benkert, WR Chris Blair, CB Kabion Ento (kay-be-on N-toe), QB Danny Etling, S Innis Gaines, LB La'Darius Hamilton, C Michal Menet (Michael MEN-et), K JJ Molson, T/G Cole Van Lanen and LB Ray Wilborn. General Manager Brian Gutekunst announced the transactions Tuesday.

All of the players spent time on the Packers' practice squad this season.