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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#821 » by F N 11 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:19 pm

Flores strike me as a Judge 2.0. Tough guy know it all. Things are going to heat up.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#822 » by GONYK » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:25 pm

F N 11 wrote:Flores strike me as a Judge 2.0. Tough guy know it all. Things are going to heat up.


Except Flores won games. Judge would still be here if he had Flores' record.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#823 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:26 pm

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TerrenceClarke wrote:I also want to point out that the Offense in Alabama in 2017 was ranked 15 the year daboll was thereas OC.

The telling stat is... that the year before he was there it was 15th. The year after he left it was 15th.

so he makes really no change there either....


So with the evidence... Daboll was not considered a "genius" till he got to coach a once in a life time Player.

He is directly tied to Allen in ALL of his success as a play caller. that's VERY telling on his Natural ability to call plays. I said before, this dude is like Mike Mcarthy without Farve and Rodgers... nothing special at all.

He is a highly overrated play caller and people dont want to admit it.

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He wouldn't be my first choice. I want Demeco Ryans bad.

But gotta give Schoen time. If he proves to that he isn't cut out and makes bad hires then he will be on the chopping block. But I can never blame a GM that wants to have a connection and be on the same page with there HC.


Bruh. I love Ryans, but we know the Giants wont do it.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#824 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:34 pm

F N 11 wrote:Flores strike me as a Judge 2.0. Tough guy know it all. Things are going to heat up.


you cant be serious. :lol:

Flores is a winning coach. Judge is a losing coach.

Check the stat sheet.

Flores is only gone because him and the FO were not in cohesion. Everybody knows the Dolphins ownership is garbage.

Again we are talking about a coach that gave Miami its first back to to back winning seasons in almost 20 YEARS!

You mad that he is coach with convictions and stands up for it? You dont like that he is serious?

Judge is a bum. Dont disrespect Flores to even think Judge is on his level.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#825 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:37 pm

Flores is a Young Tomlin...

But Whatever tho....

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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#826 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:37 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:I also want to point out that the Offense in Alabama in 2017 was ranked 15 the year daboll was thereas OC.

The telling stat is... that the year before he was there it was 15th. The year after he left it was 15th.

so he makes really no change there either....


So with the evidence... Daboll was not considered a "genius" till he got to coach a once in a life time Player.

He is directly tied to Allen in ALL of his success as a play caller. that's VERY telling on his Natural ability to call plays. I said before, this dude is like Mike Mcarthy without Farve and Rodgers... nothing special at all.

He is a highly overrated play caller and people dont want to admit it.

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He wouldn't be my first choice. I want Demeco Ryans bad.

But gotta give Schoen time. If he proves to that he isn't cut out and makes bad hires then he will be on the chopping block. But I can never blame a GM that wants to have a connection and be on the same page with there HC.


Bruh. I love Ryans, but we know the Giants wont do it.


Its sounds like Mara actually really wants Flores from all these reports. I just think Schoen is going to get scared off by the in fighting flores has with his GM down in Miami.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#827 » by G_K_F » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:38 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:Flores is a Young Tomlin...

But Whatever tho....

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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#828 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:46 pm

This video should be watched to understand Flores. It doesn't get any realer than this, when it comes to NFL football coaches. There is no bigger dream than a kid to come from where he comes from to be able to coach the NY FOOTBALL GIANTS!


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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#829 » by E-Balla » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:47 pm

I remember back when the Giants were one of the most well run franchises in sports... To think this all started with a kicker beating his wife at the pro bowl.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#830 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:56 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:Flores is a Young Tomlin...

But Whatever tho....

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No.


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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#831 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:58 pm

TwitterFingers wrote:
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blueNorange wrote:yes please.

Read on Twitter
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who is that guy?





I don’t know who wrote the tweet, but Daboll is incredibly overrated. The key to his success can be summed up by two words: Josh Allen

pretty wild considering when allen was drafted he was a very raw prospect with a high bust potential, but wow'd everyone during the combine.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#832 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:01 pm

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TerrenceClarke wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
He wouldn't be my first choice. I want Demeco Ryans bad.

But gotta give Schoen time. If he proves to that he isn't cut out and makes bad hires then he will be on the chopping block. But I can never blame a GM that wants to have a connection and be on the same page with there HC.


Bruh. I love Ryans, but we know the Giants wont do it.


Its sounds like Mara actually really wants Flores from all these reports. I just think Schoen is going to get scared off by the in fighting flores has with his GM down in Miami.


This would mean Mara would have to overule him if he is that scared. I truly, truly hope he gets a FAIR chance. Cause if so...HE should be the favorite imo. We all know there is things he learned to do different since he got fired.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#833 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:01 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:Flores even has a winning record against BB. Which no other former BB coach has ever done. You really cant make this schit up. smh

bro, brian flores is not getting the job so just stop.

he wants a trash person in watson and the giants aren't in a position to trade draft picks.

and if flores does get the job then it shows that mara still has final say.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#834 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:04 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:
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sure He can get some credit, but the point remains who is Daboll without Allen? we have evidence that he is not much. Like I said before, many star OCs get busy without Generational QBs or even star ones, they make the most of what they have and the offense still clicks. We have no evidence of that with Daboll.

Think about this. A Coach who led Miami to back to back winning seasons since 2002-2003 and the whole NFL world was shocked that he was fired. A coach who has PROVEN he can lead a football team.... Has to beat out the "lock" the "frontrunner" OC who we have no evidence can do what Flores did. How does that work?

IF this process was truly genuine, it should be the OTHER WAY around. This is what ticks me off the most.

People are worried about Flores Offense? Like I said before. Just Hire KEN DORSEY away from the Bills for OC. Thats a clear promotion for him. Its that simple.

This is nepotism as its best if we being honest here based on ALL reports.



we will probably find out soon. :lol:

Do you have his offensive ranks when he was an OC for all those years? Tough to think if he was that bad of a coordinator he would have kept getting OC job throughout the league and at the most prestigious college.

Do you have his offensive rankings from his years? Sorry to lazy too look that up right now but you referenced we have evidence that he is not much. Are there offensive rankings for those teams. And then if there are we need to dive deep into those numbers. What kind of personnel did he have..ect?


it was dead last in 2009 with Browns as OC

and it was the 4th worst offense in 2010 with the browns as OC.

When he was the OC in Miami 2011 it was 22

He was fired and the next year in KC when he was the OC it was 24th

IJS. :lol:

football in the year 2022 is not the same football for 10 years ago, so if this is all you got .. then buddy you got chit.

with the cheifs his qb situation was a bunch of mike glennon's.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#835 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:06 pm

terrenceclark says daboll is overrated yet wants the guy that went through 3 oc's and 4 o-line coaches in miami and still doesn't have an identity on offense, so he's gonna hire his new england friend who also doesn't have an identity on offense.

you want to talk overrated? it's brian flores.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#836 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:09 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:Flores is a Young Tomlin...

But Whatever tho....

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if this is true, then teams would be lining up for him.

but it's the opposite, flores is begging for a job.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#837 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:13 pm

can't wait till friday when daboll is named head coach.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#838 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:14 pm

overrated is clinging onto flores' w/l record instead of looking at:

- the players didn't like him
- the coaching staff didn't like him
- the front office got tired of him

but but but but but but but but he beat bill belichek.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#839 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:15 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:
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He wouldn't be my first choice. I want Demeco Ryans bad.

But gotta give Schoen time. If he proves to that he isn't cut out and makes bad hires then he will be on the chopping block. But I can never blame a GM that wants to have a connection and be on the same page with there HC.


Bruh. I love Ryans, but we know the Giants wont do it.


Its sounds like Mara actually really wants Flores from all these reports. I just think Schoen is going to get scared off by the in fighting flores has with his GM down in Miami.


I just read this on Big Blue Interactive who Eric the Admin said is a plugged in person and says is Legit. :o

There are three types of personnel guys who get to GM. The talent evaluator, the architect, and the "yes men". The Giants finalist were all yes men. No one can honestly tell you they got the best talent evaluator in the league and if they do they're being kind to a friend. Joe is a no-ego guy who is a good information gatherer. He does exactly what is asked. Maras didn't want a strong personality with experience. They wanted someone green, someone they could influence with little resistance. They got their guy.


If thats the case then it makes sense why Mara is the one who made the call himself personally....

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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#840 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:18 pm

wow guys the guy that's been trashing joe schoen and brian daboll is posting garbage to fit his trash narrative, it must be true!!!!

i've never seen someone take an L and not realize he's holding it.
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