Jalyen Brown vs Pascal Siakam

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[YogurtProducer]

You forgot Jaylen being a far better defender. Brown destroyed him in their playoff matchup. It's close, but Jaylen's 2 years younger and the better 2 way player. You put Brown on the Raptors and he's a top ten scorer eg 27-30 ppg.

Brown's also missed 40%+ of the season with covid and then a hamstring issue.
Tatum+Brown are currently the best scoring duo in the NBA but they've played only 50% of the schedule together due to both having covid and injuries earlier this year.
They've also won 8 of their last 10.

You put brown on the raptors and nobody touches the ball. Siakam’s playmaking has been on another level this year.

If brown and Tatum are so good then why do they always underperform as a team? They’ve practically got the same record as a raptors team who have no bench and only have about 5 or 6 legit nba players. They get theirs but they impact the entire team negatively with their selfishness.

Hot take: Siakam is a better player than Tatum or Brown. Sure, he does not have as sexy of a game as either of them, but he is just better in most aspects of basketball. 3 point shooting is really the only argument you would have for the Celtics over Siakam.

[gp2015]

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What is the point of posting a video clip 1.5 years ago? Are they both the exact same players they were before and haven't developed at all since then?

A lot of players could have stopped Pascal during that time. He could barely dribble the ball without turning it over.

[TravisScott55]

Siakam

[jlokine]

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it's been reported by many that siakam was not comfortable in the bubble and it reflected in his play, you can actually compare his bubble numbers to prebubble numbers. so you're going to compare 2 players where one of them has already came out and said he wasnt mentally in the best place when they played in a bubble environment... 1.5yrs ago? and even last year he got covid and then wound up having to had shoulder surgery this past off season..

[Floody100]

I think his jump in playmaking has separated him from Jaylen Brown at this point

Why be a playmaker when your one of the best scorers in the league though ?

[God Squad]

Meh. Pascal probably. Same tier IMO.

[Floody100]

You forgot Jaylen being a far better defender. Brown destroyed him in their playoff matchup. It's close, but Jaylen's 2 years younger and the better 2 way player. You put Brown on the Raptors and he's a top ten scorer eg 27-30 ppg.

Brown's also missed 40%+ of the season with covid and then a hamstring issue.
Tatum+Brown are currently the best scoring duo in the NBA but they've played only 50% of the schedule together due to both having covid and injuries earlier this year.
They've also won 8 of their last 10.

You put brown on the raptors and nobody touches the ball. Siakam’s playmaking has been on another level this year.

If brown and Tatum are so good then why do they always underperform as a team? They’ve practically got the same record as a raptors team who have no bench and only have about 5 or 6 legit nba players. They get theirs but they impact the entire team negatively with their selfishness.

Hot take: Siakam is a better player than Tatum or Brown. Sure, he does not have as sexy of a game as either of them, but he is just better in most aspects of basketball. 3 point shooting is really the only argument you would have for the Celtics over Siakam.

I can understand the argument between Brown & Siakam but comparing Siakam to Tatum is laughable. If Siakam was defended the way Tatum was the Raptors would looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

[pingpongrac]

You put brown on the raptors and nobody touches the ball. Siakam’s playmaking has been on another level this year.

If brown and Tatum are so good then why do they always underperform as a team? They’ve practically got the same record as a raptors team who have no bench and only have about 5 or 6 legit nba players. They get theirs but they impact the entire team negatively with their selfishness.

Hot take: Siakam is a better player than Tatum or Brown. Sure, he does not have as sexy of a game as either of them, but he is just better in most aspects of basketball. 3 point shooting is really the only argument you would have for the Celtics over Siakam.

I can understand the argument between Brown & Siakam but comparing Siakam to Tatum is laughable. If Siakam was defended the way Tatum was the Raptors would looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

Teams have literally been doubling Siakam and packing the paint against him the last two seasons which is why he has worked so much on his playmaking. Tatum could learn a thing or two from Siakam by being more unselfish on a consistent basis rather than taking 5+ heavily contested turnaround jumpers most nights.

Maybe watch a few Raptors games before you start talking about things you know little about.

[Saint Lazarus]

You forgot Jaylen being a far better defender. Brown destroyed him in their playoff matchup. It's close, but Jaylen's 2 years younger and the better 2 way player. You put Brown on the Raptors and he's a top ten scorer eg 27-30 ppg.

Brown's also missed 40%+ of the season with covid and then a hamstring issue.
Tatum+Brown are currently the best scoring duo in the NBA but they've played only 50% of the schedule together due to both having covid and injuries earlier this year.
They've also won 8 of their last 10.

You put brown on the raptors and nobody touches the ball. Siakam’s playmaking has been on another level this year.

If brown and Tatum are so good then why do they always underperform as a team? They’ve practically got the same record as a raptors team who have no bench and only have about 5 or 6 legit nba players. They get theirs but they impact the entire team negatively with their selfishness.

Hot take: Siakam is a better player than Tatum or Brown. Sure, he does not have as sexy of a game as either of them, but he is just better in most aspects of basketball. 3 point shooting is really
the only argument you would have for the Celtics over Siakam.

Siakam is the best player to come out of Africa. Hakeem who?

[Floody100]

Hot take: Siakam is a better player than Tatum or Brown. Sure, he does not have as sexy of a game as either of them, but he is just better in most aspects of basketball. 3 point shooting is really the only argument you would have for the Celtics over Siakam.

I can understand the argument between Brown & Siakam but comparing Siakam to Tatum is laughable. If Siakam was defended the way Tatum was the Raptors would looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

Teams have literally been doubling Siakam and packing the paint against him the last two seasons which is why he has worked so much on his playmaking. Tatum could learn a thing or two from Siakam by being more unselfish on a consistent basis rather than taking 5+ heavily contested turnaround jumpers most nights.

Maybe watch a few Raptors games before you start talking about things you know little about.

Oh stop it he has not & you know it.

[BostonCouchGM]

Two low BBIQ players that are no longer above average defenders like they’re capable of being. I’d rather have Siakam because he’s a proven champion and seems to know his role better. Also it’s harder to find 4s with his skills in todays league. Anyone can be a high usage chucker if allowed to be, and put up scoring numbers like Jaylen

[Asianiac_24]

Pascal. Jaylen Brown, I feel, is one of those floor raisers that limits your ceiling due to their usage and average efficiency, similar to a Westbrook. Not good enough to lead a team to a championship, but doesn’t have the skill set to complement a true #1 and do the other things

[pingpongrac]

I can understand the argument between Brown & Siakam but comparing Siakam to Tatum is laughable. If Siakam was defended the way Tatum was the Raptors would looking at a top 5 draft pick next year.

Teams have literally been doubling Siakam and packing the paint against him the last two seasons which is why he has worked so much on his playmaking. Tatum could learn a thing or two from Siakam by being more unselfish on a consistent basis rather than taking 5+ heavily contested turnaround jumpers most nights.

Maybe watch a few Raptors games before you start talking about things you know little about.

Oh stop it he has not & you know it.

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Siakam has been doubled just as frequently as Tatum this season (slightly less per game but a slightly higher percentage of possession) and has produced a lot more effectively.

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[blackcosmos]

Brown is often injured. So Spicy P

[Johnny Bball]

Can’t miss with either and would be happy with either. I think Brown has untapped upside still.

[Fencer reregistered]

i think siakam's flexibility to guard 1 through 5 gives him the edge.

Which of those positions do you think Jaylen can't guard?

To the eye test, for example, he does OK on guys like Giannis or Embiid. (To the extent anybody does OK on them, of course ...)

[tdotrep2]

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pascal was getting locked down by scrubs on brooklyn the series earlier. dude was garbage in the bubble he slacked off and didnt touch a ball thinking the season was over. prior siakam put up big numbers vs the celtics hes too big for brown, he's cooked him before

[BuddyBuckets]

Who is this Jalen Brown?

You mean Jaylen Brown, all star shooting guard for the Boston Celtics?

"OP means Jaylen Brown, for anyone confused"

^^^This would be what you said, except done with some class.

And no, no-one was confused.

[Floody100]

Two low BBIQ players that are no longer above average defenders like they’re capable of being. I’d rather have Siakam because he’s a proven champion and seems to know his role better. Also it’s harder to find 4s with his skills in todays league. Anyone can be a high usage chucker if allowed to be, and put up scoring numbers like Jaylen

Just a heads up. Not only does this guy have no idea what the f*** he’s talking about he also doesn’t represent the Celtic fan base as well.