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[thebuzzardman]

Stuck with Randle, what would be better, benching Fournier permanently so Grimes can start and Reddish off the bench, or Kemba benched with IQ starting

Grimes
RJ
Cam
Randle
Mitch

Is the lineup we should go for. Grimes was a PG in high school and in Kansas

I'd say it's a bad idea, but neither Burks nor IQ are PG's and Grime is a much better defender than either.
Fournier in THEORY is a better offensive player than Cam, and of course it's hard to find a worse defender than Fournier, but Fournier is too inconsistent on offense, where he'll give 30 points then 5, then 20, then 10. So play Cam as well.

Bench mob:
Burks
IQ
Fournier
Obi
Whoever
(until Rose comes back)

[Deeeez Knicks]

Stuck with Randle, what would be better, benching Fournier permanently so Grimes can start and Reddish off the bench, or Kemba benched with IQ starting

Grimes
RJ
Cam
Randle
Mitch

Is the lineup we should go for. Grimes was a PG in high school and in Kansas

I'd say it's a bad idea, but neither Burks nor IQ are PG's and Grime is a much better defender than either.
Fournier in THEORY is a better offensive player than Cam, and of course it's hard to find a worse defender than Fournier, but Fournier is too inconsistent on offense, where he'll give 30 points then 5, then 20, then 10. So play Cam as well.

Bench mob:
Burks
IQ
Fournier
Obi
Whoever
(until Rose comes back)

i want to see Grimes start but not at PG. Everyone played PG in HS but doesnt really mean much.

[Knicksfan1992]

Nerlens was listed as questionable the last couple games too but still played. I think he’s just permanently listed as questionable at this point.

Very apropos, as he was the most questionable FA signing of the offseason.

Honestly the Knicks have missed Nerlens a lot. He's undisciplined on defense and can be a bit wild but he's really the only player besides Grimes who causes disruption on that end. Knicks have seemingly forced way more turnovers with him back the last 2 games.

He's flawed but I think him making less than 10 million a year is more than fine given he stays healthy the rest of the way IMO.

[DOT]

Nerlens was listed as questionable the last couple games too but still played. I think he’s just permanently listed as questionable at this point.

Very apropos, as he was the most questionable FA signing of the offseason.

Honestly the Knicks have missed Nerlens a lot. He's undisciplined on defense and can be a bit wild but he's really the only player besides Grimes who causes disruption on that end. Knicks have seemingly forced way more turnovers with him back the last 2 games.

He's flawed but I think him making less than 10 million a year is more than fine given he stays healthy the rest of the way IMO.

How many backup Cs make 10 million a year?

[3toheadmelo]

Grimes
RJ
Cam
Randle
Mitch

Is the lineup we should go for. Grimes was a PG in high school and in Kansas

I'd say it's a bad idea, but neither Burks nor IQ are PG's and Grime is a much better defender than either.
Fournier in THEORY is a better offensive player than Cam, and of course it's hard to find a worse defender than Fournier, but Fournier is too inconsistent on offense, where he'll give 30 points then 5, then 20, then 10. So play Cam as well.

Bench mob:
Burks
IQ
Fournier
Obi
Whoever
(until Rose comes back)

i want to see Grimes start but not at PG. Everyone played PG in HS but doesnt really mean much.

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

[snadler]

I actually give Nerlens credit, he was the #1 overall pick and was a huge bust, but instead of folding up he's made himself into at least a rotational player..often times in all sports when a player doesn't even come close to living up to the hype, they give up completely..I think Noel off the bench is a solid piece, he's just limited

[Deeeez Knicks]

I'd say it's a bad idea, but neither Burks nor IQ are PG's and Grime is a much better defender than either.
Fournier in THEORY is a better offensive player than Cam, and of course it's hard to find a worse defender than Fournier, but Fournier is too inconsistent on offense, where he'll give 30 points then 5, then 20, then 10. So play Cam as well.

Bench mob:
Burks
IQ
Fournier
Obi
Whoever
(until Rose comes back)

i want to see Grimes start but not at PG. Everyone played PG in HS but doesnt really mean much.

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

[robillionaire]

Very apropos, as he was the most questionable FA signing of the offseason.

Honestly the Knicks have missed Nerlens a lot. He's undisciplined on defense and can be a bit wild but he's really the only player besides Grimes who causes disruption on that end. Knicks have seemingly forced way more turnovers with him back the last 2 games.

He's flawed but I think him making less than 10 million a year is more than fine given he stays healthy the rest of the way IMO.

How many backup Cs make 10 million a year?

He’s the starter

[3toheadmelo]

i want to see Grimes start but not at PG. Everyone played PG in HS but doesnt really mean much.

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

He’s shown a lot of growth since then. Either way we do not have any other better option. Kemba and Burks sucks. IQ is more of a SG. And Mcbride is super raw and more of a SG like Marcus Smart. Use Grimes at the point until you get someone better.

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[DOT]

i want to see Grimes start but not at PG. Everyone played PG in HS but doesnt really mean much.

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

I just find it kind of funny

Grimes is basically everything melo has been saying RJ is

And RJ is closer to what melo thinks Grimes is.

[robillionaire]

I actually give Nerlens credit, he was the #1 overall pick and was a huge bust, but instead of folding up he's made himself into at least a rotational player..often times in all sports when a player doesn't even come close to living up to the hype, they give up completely..I think Noel off the bench is a solid piece, he's just limited

He wasn’t the #1 overall pick he was selected 6th

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I actually give Nerlens credit, he was the #1 overall pick and was a huge bust, but instead of folding up he's made himself into at least a rotational player..often times in all sports when a player doesn't even come close to living up to the hype, they give up completely..I think Noel off the bench is a solid piece, he's just limited

He wasn’t the #1 overall pick he was selected 6th

Taken 9 picks in front of Giannis, bust.

[robillionaire]

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[Deeeez Knicks]

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

He’s shown a lot of growth since then. Either way we do not have any other better option. Kemba and Burks sucks. IQ is more of a SG. And Mcbride is super raw and more of a SG like Marcus Smart. Use Grimes at the point until you get someone better.

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There's more to playing PG then just passing. I am not saying Grimes is bad or bad passer either.. He's just not a PG and its not really his strength. Just about every guard plays pg in HS and the lower levels so it doesnt really say much.

Even the person your referencing is saying Grimes is better with someone setting the table for him.

There's a lot to running point. Its better to develop Grimes in the position he's better suited for. He can still make plays and throw some dimes, but more as a secondary guy

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[thebuzzardman]

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

I just find it kind of funny

Grimes is basically everything melo has been saying RJ is

And RJ is closer to what melo thinks Grimes is.

Brunson
Grimes
RJ
Obi
Mitch

[3toheadmelo]

He also did in college. He’s been throwing some nice dimes lately. He has some playmaking ability. Rather see what he can do at point instead of IQ and Kemba/Burks. Plus we get to put RJ at SG. He’s too small to guard 3’s, which is what we need Cam to do.

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

I just find it kind of funny

Grimes is basically everything melo has been saying RJ is

And RJ is closer to what melo thinks Grimes is.

I think it’s funny you’re running with the straw man argument again


Grimes is in the 66th percentile among wings in assist%. He’s also in the 82nd percentile in assist to usage at his position, meaning that he actually creates a lot the more he has the ball in his hands. You’re thinking like Thibs just planting him in a corner and running with the 3 and D narrative when advanced stats say otherwise

[3toheadmelo]

It seemed like he struggled as a PG in college and did much better as a SG. He put up 2 apg and 2 TO at Kansas?

He can make some plays but is still not close to an NBA PG. I would just let him focus on defending, shooting and making secondary plays, rather then put too much on his plate in a role he can't really play. Develop him at SG rather then the wrong position.

He’s shown a lot of growth since then. Either way we do not have any other better option. Kemba and Burks sucks. IQ is more of a SG. And Mcbride is super raw and more of a SG like Marcus Smart. Use Grimes at the point until you get someone better.

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There's more to playing PG then just passing. I am not saying Grimes is bad or bad passer either.. He's just not a PG and its not really his strength. Just about every guard plays pg in HS and the lower levels so it doesnt really say much.

Even the person your referencing is saying Grimes is better with someone setting the table for him.

There's a lot to running point. Its better to develop Grimes in the position he's better suited for. He can still make plays and throw some dimes, but more as a secondary guy

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I’m not saying Grimes is a future PG. i think he’s a combo guard, kinda like Jamal Murray. I just want to see what he can do. We don’t have any better option at the moment, like I said in my post.

[dakomish23]

I don't think there is enough talk about the heat. they were a top 4 top 5 seed in the east by most experts before the season, but too top heavy and with no deph. yet, here they are. a million injuries and covid quarantines and they are the freaking number 1 seed.
spoelstra and riley are just incredible.

And they’re trying to add Christian Wood somehow

[moocow007]

Noel arriving in the arena

...and Noel 1 minute after being inserted into the game

[dakomish23]

Honestly the Knicks have missed Nerlens a lot. He's undisciplined on defense and can be a bit wild but he's really the only player besides Grimes who causes disruption on that end. Knicks have seemingly forced way more turnovers with him back the last 2 games.

He's flawed but I think him making less than 10 million a year is more than fine given he stays healthy the rest of the way IMO.

How many backup Cs make 10 million a year?

He’s the starter

Not for long