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GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22]

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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#161 » by CobraCommander » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:30 pm

I can’t say this any clearer- Wes is starting to prove he IS the problem IMO-

The players didn’t just forget how to play ball...execution down the stretch and rotations have been embarrassing for a while

Trez and Kuz and Gaff and Deni have hid some of this BS
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#162 » by doclinkin » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:43 pm

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dlts20 wrote:Everyone keeps talking about Beal dinwitt, Wes, and Tommy, but the media really needs to start holding leonsis accountable. They love to rip Snyder but never say anything about Ted. Snyder may be misguided but at least he truly tries to win. Leonsis just puts terrible people in place and never makes any changes until years too late. Sick of this whole franchise


This. Snyder is an incompetent, narcissistic scumbag, but Snyder also actually cares about winning to some extent, and even trash owners can luck into relevance because of NFL parity, as long as they're actively trying. Ted Leonsis is an incompetent, narcisisstic scumbag, who doesn't care about winning.

I think he does care about winning. He has successfully built teams top down, and done so multiple times with the Caps. He just doesn’t know basketball like he knows hockey.


Actually I think the problem is he thinks he does know something about basketball. I don't hear him talking about creating a board to provide input to Hockey decisions the way he has with Basketball. I don't hear him requesting players to be traded from the Hockey team, like he did with John Wall. With the Wizards he meddles. When he bought these properties it seemed like he was most interested in the Basketball side of things. That very well may be the problem insasmuch as Tommy has to 2nd guess every decision he makes and try to meet that "Double Bottom Line" where it is not enough to do well on court, you must hire the candidates who are also the nicest guys. With a few exceptions of guys like Giannis and maybe Curry (I dunno, DWade and Dirk?) NBA champions are not necessarily the nicest friendliest human beings. Not saying you should hire a-holes, sure fine character counts, I am saying there is one bottom line for most fans: did you win the final NBA game played that season? Anything else lets you off the hook for handicapping yourself with the idea that, "yeah but we have good guys who are easy to root for even when they don't win".
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#163 » by Dat2U » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:48 pm

CobraCommander wrote:I can’t say this any clearer- Wes is starting to prove he IS the problem IMO-

The players didn’t just forget how to play ball...execution down the stretch and rotations have been embarrassing for a while

Trez and Kuz and Gaff and Deni have hid some of this BS


I know Wes is smarter than that. I think either rotations aren't fully in his control atm (trying to showcase guys for potential deals) or he was sending a message. Especially with Dinwiddie. Felt like he left him in there to either sink or start swimming.
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#164 » by payitforward » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:17 pm

Inasmuch as we were up by 30 at the half, & because I am an idiot, I didn't watch the last 2 quarters. Imagine my surprise this morning...!

I can't bear to read the many criticisms above -- those of Wes especially. We didn't lose this game because of rotations or any coaching decisions. Not because of ownership either, tho I am no fan of Ted's ways.

We lost the game because of turnovers. Period. They had significantly more chances to score than we did. 94 FGAs & 31 FTAs compared to our 80 shots & 40 FTAs. Duh. & even at that, they needed to shoot .871 from the line to win by a single point.
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#165 » by payitforward » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:59 pm

CobraCommander wrote:I can’t say this any clearer- Wes is starting to prove he IS the problem IMO-

The players didn’t just forget how to play ball...execution down the stretch and rotations have been embarrassing for a while...

I can't see any role for Wes in our loss last night.

CobraCommander wrote:...Trez and Kuz and Gaff and Deni have hid some of this BS

??? You could give the whole loss to "Kuz and Gaff" if you want!

I mean... the Clippers played 240 minutes last night (48 minutes of 5 players on the floor). As did the Wizards.

In their 240 minutes they turned the ball over 11 times. No one on their team committed more than 2 TOs.

The 4 guys who played most for the Clips (Coffey, Mann, Kennard & Hartenstein) played 125 of those minutes -- more than half of the total -- while committing a total of 3 turnovers.

On our side, in just about the same number of minutes (130), Kuzma, Gafford, Beal & Hachimura committed 13 turnovers.

Or, let me put it another way:

The 2 guards who played the most minutes for the Clips (Mann & Coffey) turned the ball over only 1 time in their combined 69 minutes.

The two guards who played the most minutes for us (Dinwiddie & Beal) turned the ball over 8 times in 74 minutes.

2 fewer turnovers & there is no doubt we'd have won the game. 1 less turnover in fact.
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#166 » by 80sballboy » Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:04 pm

Dat2U wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:I can’t say this any clearer- Wes is starting to prove he IS the problem IMO-

The players didn’t just forget how to play ball...execution down the stretch and rotations have been embarrassing for a while

Trez and Kuz and Gaff and Deni have hid some of this BS


I know Wes is smarter than that. I think either rotations aren't fully in his control atm (trying to showcase guys for potential deals) or he was sending a message. Especially with Dinwiddie. Felt like he left him in there to either sink or start swimming.


There's no doubt there are guys playing certain minutes to showcase them for a trade so that doesn't help the coach or the winning. Everyone knows what Neto can do. You don't need to play him because he's not going to help you last night. But it's definitely not a great formula to win. In some ways, they are tanking until the trade deadline.
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#167 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:31 pm

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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#168 » by WallToWall » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:04 am

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1. For the wizards, it shouldn’t have come down to that. We pissed the game away.
2. What happened to the ref review?
3. What happened to the coaches challenge?
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#169 » by FAH1223 » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:22 am

WallToWall wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
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1. For the wizards, it shouldn’t have come down to that. We pissed the game away.
2. What happened to the ref review?
3. What happened to the coaches challenge?

They burned their last timeout inbounding the ball so no challenge
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#170 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:26 am

WallToWall wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
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1. For the wizards, it shouldn’t have come down to that. We pissed the game away.
2. What happened to the ref review?
3. What happened to the coaches challenge?


Really it just comes down to your number one point, the rest is just loser talk. Mayo as per usual covering for Beal, trying to deflect blame on what was at best a bang-bang call. Hell, Beal got away with a foul on Gary Harris is Orlando on a last second shot. Point is sometimes calls go your way, sometimes they don't, its your job as a player to make sure you aren't put in those situations. Even if we go by the report, lets not act as if Beal made a smart play whether on the switch or by getting handsy like that.

Once again though this is about Beal's ego and pride. Just like last night bitching about having to come back into the game, saying your are either born a with dog in you or you're not (just belly-laughing funny coming from him), talking about his free agency status, etc., etc. Instead of him manning up and saying hey this is my team, I've got to be accountable to get our team in line when things are going sideways, he pins it on everybody else. He's been with the team 10 years and hasn't grown and ounce in any type of leadership respect or anyone taking him serious, because his actions speak louder than anything he says in a post game presser.

Beal has had his time to become what he's been given every chance to become with this franchise, box score stats aside, and he's refused to step up to the challenge.
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#171 » by queridiculo » Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:10 pm

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FAH1223 wrote:
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1. For the wizards, it shouldn’t have come down to that. We pissed the game away.
2. What happened to the ref review?
3. What happened to the coaches challenge?

They burned their last timeout inbounding the ball so no challenge


Yeah, but don't they typically check whether the foul occurred prior to the shot or not regardless?

That said, the Wizards lost the game irrespective of the blown call.
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#172 » by dlts20 » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:23 pm

When I saw the shot, I didn't think that it should count the way they have been calling it the last few years but unlike them losing to the Nets with the assistant coach cheating, I didn't care about this one. We deserved to lose and hopefully it causes some change that wouldn't have happened otherwise
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#173 » by CobraCommander » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:26 pm

80sballboy wrote:
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CobraCommander wrote:I can’t say this any clearer- Wes is starting to prove he IS the problem IMO-

The players didn’t just forget how to play ball...execution down the stretch and rotations have been embarrassing for a while

Trez and Kuz and Gaff and Deni have hid some of this BS


I know Wes is smarter than that. I think either rotations aren't fully in his control atm (trying to showcase guys for potential deals) or he was sending a message. Especially with Dinwiddie. Felt like he left him in there to either sink or start swimming.


There's no doubt there are guys playing certain minutes to showcase them for a trade so that doesn't help the coach or the winning. Everyone knows what Neto can do. You don't need to play him because he's not going to help you last night. But it's definitely not a great formula to win. In some ways, they are tanking until the trade deadline.

Why do you think they are tanking? They had a 35 point lead lol

The lost to Boston in a healthy rout

Lost to Chicago on a 3 at buzzer....

I’m not buying the tanking of a 500 team lol
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Re: GT #48: Clippers @ Bullets 7 PM (NBCSW/980 AM) [1/25/22] 

Post#174 » by CobraCommander » Thu Jan 27, 2022 11:29 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:I can’t say this any clearer- Wes is starting to prove he IS the problem IMO-

The players didn’t just forget how to play ball...execution down the stretch and rotations have been embarrassing for a while...

I can't see any role for Wes in our loss last night.

CobraCommander wrote:...Trez and Kuz and Gaff and Deni have hid some of this BS

??? You could give the whole loss to "Kuz and Gaff" if you want!

I mean... the Clippers played 240 minutes last night (48 minutes of 5 players on the floor). As did the Wizards.

In their 240 minutes they turned the ball over 11 times. No one on their team committed more than 2 TOs.

The 4 guys who played most for the Clips (Coffey, Mann, Kennard & Hartenstein) played 125 of those minutes -- more than half of the total -- while committing a total of 3 turnovers.

On our side, in just about the same number of minutes (130), Kuzma, Gafford, Beal & Hachimura committed 13 turnovers.

Or, let me put it another way:

The 2 guards who played the most minutes for the Clips (Mann & Coffey) turned the ball over only 1 time in their combined 69 minutes.

The two guards who played the most minutes for us (Dinwiddie & Beal) turned the ball over 8 times in 74 minutes.

2 fewer turnovers & there is no doubt we'd have won the game. 1 less turnover in fact.

No that’s not what I’m saying that game...I’m saying in the season Wes has not coached great for a while. We lost to Charlotte, Cleveland and other even tier talent teams.

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