Warriors select Jonathan Kuminga with the 7th pick of the 2021 NBA Draft

[FNQ]

So you taking Franz over Kuminga in a redraft?

What does that have to do with what I said?

I didn't read what you said tbh. I'm just sick of people saying that the dubs shoulda drafted **** Franz.

I totally understand being sick of bad opinions. It’s why I responded

[Big J]

What does that have to do with what I said?

I didn't read what you said tbh. I'm just sick of people saying that the dubs shoulda drafted **** Franz.

I totally understand being sick of bad opinions. It’s why I responded

[Little Digger]

“He did give us life," Draymond Green said of Kuminga. "Hopefully, he can build on that, we can build on that, continue to get him more minutes. I think I have spoken on that before. I think in order for us to go far, he is going to have to play a part in that. He just has some things that none of us other guys bring to the table. Some of the things, the tools that he has as a basketball player as far as his quickness, his speed, his athleticism, his strength, and youth -- the majority of us don’t have that. So I think he is going to be important for us and tonight was big. He worked his minutes. Six minutes. Plus 11. He worked his minutes. That’s all you can ask for. Work your minutes, and then hopefully, they’ll grow. It was incredible to see. We needed it.”

“We needed the energy," Kerr said of Kuminga after the win. "We needed his strength and defense and speed. He came in and changed the game for us. I thought he was fantastic. Second half, we thought about it, but we wanted to give the other guys a look and see if we could continue with the way we have done getting to this point at 21-5, so we decided not to go back to him. But he was brilliant and deserves more minutes."

LD back from a long hiatus glad to see you're ok

I’m back in that I watch the games…no so much back in remember what happened …

[SpreeS]

To compare Wagner to Dunleavy its like Jordan to DeRozan…both SG, both black, both 6-6, both shooting from midrange. I dont say that Wagner will have better career, but where he is now at 20y old, his career trajectory is way higher than Dunleavy’s.

Kuminga vs Wagner. I could say one thing, I would be happy with both at this stage. To tell more about future - lottery. Work ethic is very important at this stage of career, both are gifted and skilled in own ways.

[Swift21]

He's also improved his FT shooting, which is important for his style of play. After a rough start converting only 56% in 2021, he's up to 76% in 2022, bringing his season average to 66%.

Definitely trending in the right direction there. We need Wiggins to do the same from the stripe. He's shooting 59 percent from the line this month.

[EvanZ]

Dunleavy is in the Warriors FO and was in on the Kuminga pick. That's the irony.

[Big J]

Honestly, Mobley is the the only rook I’d take over JK in a redraft. All of the other rooks are putting up numbers on stinkin trash tanking teams. Kuminga probably has an even higher upside than Mobley as well due to his athleticism and ability to handle the ball. Dude could be a mini Giannis once he figures it out.

[GSWFan1994]

Honestly, Mobley is the the only rook I’d take over JK in a redraft. All of the other rooks are putting up numbers on stinkin trash tanking teams. Kuminga probably has an even higher upside than Mobley as well due to his athleticism and ability to handle the ball. Dude could be a mini Giannis once he figures it out.

I absolutely love Kuminga and supported the pick since the beginning, but I'd draft Mobley, Barnes and Cade before him if I had the chance.

Never been high on both Jalens (Green & Suggs) though.

[Big J]

Honestly, Mobley is the the only rook I’d take over JK in a redraft. All of the other rooks are putting up numbers on stinkin trash tanking teams. Kuminga probably has an even higher upside than Mobley as well due to his athleticism and ability to handle the ball. Dude could be a mini Giannis once he figures it out.

I absolutely love Kuminga and supported the pick since the beginning, but I'd draft Mobley, Barnes and Cade before him if I had the chance.

Never been high on both Jalens (Green & Suggs) though.

Thing is, besides Mobley those guys are putting up stats on bad teams. Stick Kuminga on Det and give him 35 minutes per game and he’d put up god stats as well. Probably be picking up a bunch of bad habits while he was at it though.

[GSWFan1994]

Thing is, besides Mobley those guys are putting up stats on bad teams. Stick Kuminga on Det and give him 35 minutes per game and he’d put up god stats as well. Probably be picking up a bunch of bad habits while he was at it though.

You are correct. I agree with you.

I'd still take those 3 guys, though. I think they are on their way to being surefire All-Stars down the road.

And I think Kuminga has a good chance to reach that degree as well.

Not sure about all the other players in the same draft, need a better sample size I guess.

[EvanZ]

Honestly, Mobley is the the only rook I’d take over JK in a redraft. All of the other rooks are putting up numbers on stinkin trash tanking teams. Kuminga probably has an even higher upside than Mobley as well due to his athleticism and ability to handle the ball. Dude could be a mini Giannis once he figures it out.

Mini-Giannis is not Giannis.

[GunnerWRX]

Man some people are so toxic when others opinion is different from theirs.

[and1GS]

Yeh. Giannis without one of his most important attributes isn't exactly Giannis. It's like saying Bjelica is Boris Diaw except he can't dribble.

As for JK. I have been blown away by his development and Kerr's staff has done a great job with him. I get annoyed when he doesn't play, sure, but they learned from botching it with Wiseman and hired a full staff that understands how to relate and develop young talent.

With both of the rookies I really expected nothing this year. Kuminga, if I'm being real, I expected nothing for 2-3 years. We're looking at a situation where he could be a 20 mpg player with starter upside next season. That's of course assuming he really focuses in on understanding scheme and rotations. There will be growing pains, but we will likely lose a chunk of our bench this off-season (doubt we can afford OPJ, Iggy may retire, Bjelica may not be a fit and JTA could have his QO yanked while we prioritize signing GP2) so rolling out a seasoned Kuminga and Poole in that second unit would be a phenomenal start to building depth.

[Big J]

Honestly, a better comp might be a Bron tbh. Little less height than Giannis, but a better jimmy. He's just a little less refined than Bron when he came into the league.

[Big J]

Man some people are so toxic when others opinion is different from theirs.

Completely agree.

[DonaldSanders]

Honestly, Mobley is the the only rook I’d take over JK in a redraft. All of the other rooks are putting up numbers on stinkin trash tanking teams. Kuminga probably has an even higher upside than Mobley as well due to his athleticism and ability to handle the ball. Dude could be a mini Giannis once he figures it out.

Agreed. Minga's first step + hops are elite, special, and rare. Mobley I think will be the only player better than him in 5 years but as shocking as it may sound Kuminga has the potential to be the best player in both this year and last year's draft. I think Mobley has the best chance to be the best player, but I don't think we can limit JK's potential yet.

Honestly, Mobley is the the only rook I’d take over JK in a redraft. All of the other rooks are putting up numbers on stinkin trash tanking teams. Kuminga probably has an even higher upside than Mobley as well due to his athleticism and ability to handle the ball. Dude could be a mini Giannis once he figures it out.

I absolutely love Kuminga and supported the pick since the beginning, but I'd draft Mobley, Barnes and Cade before him if I had the chance.

Never been high on both Jalens (Green & Suggs) though.

I like Barnes a lot but he's not posting insane stats or anything. Weak shooting %s which were expected, negative on/off (but so is Kuminga, Cade, and Mobley right now, I just think Barnes is getting a little too much credit). I think Barnes getting a full year of college at age 19 makes him a bit more mature & ready compared to Minga... the G League Ignite didn't seem that amazing in terms of the quality of ball played. Cade is more polished but I don't see as much upside.

Kuminga is still only 19 & is a year behind Cade/Barnes/Mobley. You gotta factor just how young he is, he won't be 20 until next season! Considering how little he has gotten quality coaching and how fast he is responding to it now, I am sooooo hyped for Kuminga. I ordered one of the silly trading cards for him from warriors.com and got a Kuminga shirt. I would have gotten a jersey but they were sold out! I was actually happy to see that.

[FNQ]

Man, the potential with Kuminga is incredible. I know there have been some concerns about his work ethic and attitude but the kid is only 19. That's only a year removed from senior prom! Some more quality time with Iguodala should help him figure out how to approach the game and deal with NBA life.

I don’t know that I want Iguodala teaching him much. Iguodala is such a freak that you can’t really emulate him, you don’t want Kuminga reaching like he does. Learn from Dray, the positional guy who has to play bigger than his height, because Kuminga will have that same hurdle to clear, IMO

Especially dont want Iguodala around while Kuminga gains his shooting stroke

Iguodala the stripper can never be duplicated. Otherwise you will rack up reach-in fouls like Steph.

Poole does it too

Funny enough, the next guy with fastest hands aside from Dray, might be Moody.. he’s done it a couple times in NBA, a lot of times in college

[EvanZ]

Moody also has huge hands especially for his size. Kuminga got kinda small hands.

[GunnerWRX]

I don’t know that I want Iguodala teaching him much. Iguodala is such a freak that you can’t really emulate him, you don’t want Kuminga reaching like he does. Learn from Dray, the positional guy who has to play bigger than his height, because Kuminga will have that same hurdle to clear, IMO

Especially dont want Iguodala around while Kuminga gains his shooting stroke

Iguodala the stripper can never be duplicated. Otherwise you will rack up reach-in fouls like Steph.

Poole does it too

Funny enough, the next guy with fastest hands aside from Dray, might be Moody.. he’s done it a couple times in NBA, a lot of times in college

GP2 is pretty good at stripping too. I kind of feel he is #2 behind Iguodala instead of Draymond.

Poole is decent but I am more impressed with his chase-down breaking lobs. One of these days he might get a chase down block LeBron style in the Finals.

[HiRez]

Feels to me like Kuminga has been slipping on defense lately, and the numbers bear it out as well. Guys are getting by him and he's still too slow reading on help defense, or unsure of who he's supposed to switch onto (or not). He hasn't had a block in 8 games and hasn't had a steal in 6. In Defensive EPM, he's gone from +1.4 to -0.5 in the last couple weeks.

On offense he's still strangely passive for long stretches, standing on the perimeter and watching instead of making himself available slashing. And he's still not really proactively going after rebounds.