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Yo somebody just reminded me Randle has Bernard King number lol.
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robillionaire wrote:nedleeds wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:
But even KP wasn't the hit that we got really hopeful for after we saw his rookie year. He never really developed the way we dreamed, even before the knee injury.
I kind of disagree. Even with our terrible player development he was the 2nd best shot effector in the league behind Gobert with far more offensive upside. He was on his way to the All Star game and was injured literally **** canning Giannis. Also was a budding rapist. Anyway, the ACL I think really hosed his lateral movement and his defense hasn't been the same.
Yeah I think people don’t remember how good he was to start off that season before the injuries kicked in and then the ACL
I mean even now just quickly checking the box score he has 22 pts in the 3rd. What do we have to show for it? Zilch
Maybe the Mavs team plane will crash like in that movie and their 1st rounder next year will be #1. Then we can have a movie about it 10 years later.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
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Julius actually the complete opposite of Most Improved Player right now.
As a wise man once said… “Gotta laugh hard so as not to cry folks!”
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nedleeds wrote:robillionaire wrote:nedleeds wrote:
I kind of disagree. Even with our terrible player development he was the 2nd best shot effector in the league behind Gobert with far more offensive upside. He was on his way to the All Star game and was injured literally **** canning Giannis. Also was a budding rapist. Anyway, the ACL I think really hosed his lateral movement and his defense hasn't been the same.
Yeah I think people don’t remember how good he was to start off that season before the injuries kicked in and then the ACL
I mean even now just quickly checking the box score he has 22 pts in the 3rd. What do we have to show for it? Zilch
Maybe the Mavs team plane will crash like in that movie and their 1st rounder next year will be #1. Then we can have a movie about it 10 years later.
It’s top 10 protected so just abandon all hope

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Zenzibar wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:Zenzibar wrote:
Correct. Leon and staff were unconvincing with their dubious free agency plan. As you mentioned and with the most cap space sheez. Noel, Kemba and Fournier were bullsht and Randle was signed 6 months too soon.
Leon has to take the fall for this summer's cap space travesty. The only way to redeem himself is pull the trigger on Fournier, Randle and Kemba. Make a decision on Mitch, cause Jericho is fkn beast and would love Kenny Payne with more time with him.
All of them should go and that's not me, that's Jeff VanGundy saying it.
surprised the media hasn't ripped into Leon
pretty annoying IMO that Leon won't speak to the media. I think he's only talked to the media once, and that was during the Thibs press conference. he can't answer for the sh*t team he put together/wasted FA money
our only hope is if Dolan is really pissed off
Leon is in the shadows Bro. The last time I saw him was fake jumping in the draft room after picking Obi. Fk.
But he signed off on Fournier, Kemba, Noel and signing Randle 6 months earlier when you didn't have to. Why? To save Dolan money?
Dolan's is part of a family that owns 2 of the most expensive franchises in the NBA along with Cablevision. Leon needs to be called out too. Randle signed for less total money and Leon bit on it.
Leon's team HAS to convince him to move Fournier, Kemba and Randle.
Wait who is Dolan related to that owns another team?
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WargamesX wrote:Zenzibar wrote:knickstape4ever wrote:
surprised the media hasn't ripped into Leon
pretty annoying IMO that Leon won't speak to the media. I think he's only talked to the media once, and that was during the Thibs press conference. he can't answer for the sh*t team he put together/wasted FA money
our only hope is if Dolan is really pissed off
Leon is in the shadows Bro. The last time I saw him was fake jumping in the draft room after picking Obi. Fk.
But he signed off on Fournier, Kemba, Noel and signing Randle 6 months earlier when you didn't have to. Why? To save Dolan money?
Dolan's is part of a family that owns 2 of the most expensive franchises in the NBA along with Cablevision. Leon needs to be called out too. Randle signed for less total money and Leon bit on it.
Leon's team HAS to convince him to move Fournier, Kemba and Randle.
Wait who is Dolan related to that owns another team?
Larry Dolan - Cleveland Guardians

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F N 11 wrote:Yo somebody just reminded me Randle has Bernard King number lol.
Disgraceful

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knickstape4ever wrote:WargamesX wrote:Zenzibar wrote:
Leon is in the shadows Bro. The last time I saw him was fake jumping in the draft room after picking Obi. Fk.
But he signed off on Fournier, Kemba, Noel and signing Randle 6 months earlier when you didn't have to. Why? To save Dolan money?
Dolan's is part of a family that owns 2 of the most expensive franchises in the NBA along with Cablevision. Leon needs to be called out too. Randle signed for less total money and Leon bit on it.
Leon's team HAS to convince him to move Fournier, Kemba and Randle.
Wait who is Dolan related to that owns another team?
Larry Dolan - Cleveland Guardians
Aren’t they a perpetual bad team too?
Also I had to look them up, I had no idea they changed their name. Good
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F N 11 wrote:Yo somebody just reminded me Randle has Bernard King number lol.
I'm reminded of it every time he takes the court.
Tonight was ooogly. But the Heat are a championship caliber team that is very well coached. We couldn't handle their defense which they executed perfectly.
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BugginOut wrote:nedleeds wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:We’ve also played better teams than G league squads who were missing everyone due to Covid protocols. Our record is an aberration. We are a terrible team.
wE beAT tHE cliPpeRs thOugH!
Yeah I forgot that the Wolves and the Pelicans are powerhouse teams.
Clippers have a better record than us and we beat Dallas who are the hottest team in the league right now without Kemba. This is a terrible take
Did u really just say w.o Kemba? LOL or was that a typo...
There's no way anyone can think we're a better team with Kemba
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robillionaire wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:I couldn't watch.
Did Cam get actual 10 mins when the game mattered or just garbage time 10 mins?
Also does anyone got a vid of his highlights and RJs, wanna check them out.
It was garbage time
Stupid Thibs man....


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Da_Mane_Man wrote:I haven't really given this much thought until tonight but Leon Rose has to be on the hot seat. Dude signed off on big money for Randle and Fournier (which was the most egregious one) and the team fell apart. I get that he couldn't have seen the Randle thing coming, but the Fournier one hurts. We're stuck with that contract now.
Fournier kind of getting what vets who are "ok" get. I mean, even Luke Kennard getting 17 million.
I mean, it's not a good deal. It's the kind of deal not smart teams do, but I think it's movable. Not easily, but not impossible.
Randle's is going to be difficult.

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nedleeds wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:robillionaire wrote:
They drafted an all star with KP and he tore an ACL and got traded for late firsts and Dennis brick jr, even the hits turn into misses if you just give it enough time
But even KP wasn't the hit that we got really hopeful for after we saw his rookie year. He never really developed the way we dreamed, even before the knee injury.
I kind of disagree. Even with our terrible player development he was the 2nd best shot effector in the league behind Gobert with far more offensive upside. He was on his way to the All Star game and was injured literally **** canning Giannis. Also was a budding rapist. Anyway, the ACL I think really hosed his lateral movement and his defense hasn't been the same.
He was definitely intriguing, and produced well in certain areas (rim protection, 3P% for a second), but was too awful offensively on the whole to be chalked up as a real foundational piece for purposes of the point I was trying to make. The idea of KP as a foundational piece was always more theory than fact to me.
In the year he made the all-star team and got hurt, his TS% was .539. League average in 2017-18 was .552.
And then he got hurt and there was no longer even a chance at him being that guy, but his performance even up to that point was already really worrisome. For me at least. He really seemed like he was going to be the guy that broke the cycle for us, but he was a fraud.

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god shammgod wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:I couldn't watch.
Did Cam get actual 10 mins when the game mattered or just garbage time 10 mins?
Also does anyone got a vid of his highlights and RJs, wanna check them out.
game was over
Thibs man... we trade for a guy who wanted more minutes, Thibs dumbass plays him LESS minutes.


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The question here is what our FO thinks is the right price for Julius.
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Worst_to_First wrote:
The question here is what our FO thinks is the right price for Julius.
The right price = The best offer
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This is Randle telling Knicks I don't want to be the leader of this team. Somethings not adding up. The man goes from being force fed offense on the court to checked out on the bench. Paying fines to avoid media. Aura of sadness.
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Thibs and Randle vs the front office and the rest of the team. Thibs going to die on that Randle tree with them template rotations. You can bench Kemba and Fournier but Randle get put back in 1-15. Guys tuning him out, period.
Ty Lue benched his starters to start second half and the clippers came back down 30 plus. Thibs is just an outdated bad coach.
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