OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[HarthorneWingo]

News story about new research on omicron

https://apple.news/AH0wAaEU0Q7GmFSERz291dw

A new study suggests that current antiviral pills being used to treat COVID-19 remain effective against the highly transmissible Omicron variant, while intravenous antibody drugs appear to be "substantially" less successful.

Researchers at the University of Wisconsin-Madison report that the drugs behind the new oral pills have proved successful in lab tests, and say it would be "welcome news" if the anti-viral pills are confirmed to work against Omicron in human patients.
However, lab tests also revealed that the currently available antibody therapies, which are typically given intravenously in hospitals, are less effective against Omicron than earlier variants of the virus.

The findings, published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine, are in line with other studies that show most available antibody treatments are less effective against Omicron, according to researchers.

[Jethrobodine123]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-outbreak-pacific-islands_n_61f3ab83e4b01d3f29999e8c

COVID Hits One Of The Last Uninfected Places On The Planet

Several small Pacific nations avoided any virus outbreaks, thanks to their remote locations and strict border controls.

"Officials tested each returning passenger three times in nearby Fiji, required that they be vaccinated, and put them in quarantine with additional testing when they arrived home.

It wasn’t enough."

We're all going to get infected at some point, I'm trying to delay it until we have better medicine to avoid a hospital stay or at the very least hospitals aren't filled to the brim with covid patients.

J

[ellobo]

The latest from Katelyn Jetelina, aka Your Local Epidemiologist:

Overview of the current situation as of January 24:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affairs-jan-24

Looking ahead:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/what-now-how-pandemics-end

[Jethrobodine123]

The latest from Katelyn Jetelina, aka Your Local Epidemiologist:

Overview of the current situation as of January 24:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affairs-jan-24

Looking ahead:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/what-now-how-pandemics-end

I haven't read everything on her site but she seems to have a lot of common sense and appears to be following the science first and foremost. She makes some good points.

Thanks for posting.

J

[ellobo]

The latest from Katelyn Jetelina, aka Your Local Epidemiologist:

Overview of the current situation as of January 24:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affairs-jan-24

Looking ahead:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/what-now-how-pandemics-end

I haven't read everything on her site but she seems to have a lot of common sense and appears to be following the science first and foremost. She makes some good points.

Thanks for posting.

J

Yes, she has actual expertise in the field, she reads and analyzes all the latest research, and does a great job breaking it down for the intelligent and educated, but not expert, reader.

She seems very scrupulous about discussing the limitations of the science without discounting the substance of what we do know or what it strongly suggests, even if it isn't conclusive. Her agenda seems to be sincerely trying to understand the situation to the best of her scientific ability, based on the scientific evidence, and communicating it clearly, without spinning it to fit an agenda or narrative.

Beside the stats from the CDC and my state department of health, she's the first place I go for Covid info.

[HarthorneWingo]

The latest from Katelyn Jetelina, aka Your Local Epidemiologist:

Overview of the current situation as of January 24:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/state-of-affairs-jan-24

Looking ahead:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/what-now-how-pandemics-end

I haven't read everything on her site but she seems to have a lot of common sense and appears to be following the science first and foremost. She makes some good points.

Thanks for posting.

J

Yes, she has actual expertise in the field, she reads and analyzes all the latest research, and does a great job breaking it down for the intelligent and educated, but not expert, reader.

She seems very scrupulous about discussing the limitations of the science without discounting the substance of what we do know or what it strongly suggests, even if it isn't conclusive. Her agenda seems to be sincerely trying to understand the situation to the best of her scientific ability, based on the scientific evidence, and communicating it clearly, without spinning it to fit an agenda or narrative.

Beside the stats from the CDC and my state department of health, she's the first place I go for Covid info.

Which state?

[ellobo]

I haven't read everything on her site but she seems to have a lot of common sense and appears to be following the science first and foremost. She makes some good points.

Thanks for posting.

J

Yes, she has actual expertise in the field, she reads and analyzes all the latest research, and does a great job breaking it down for the intelligent and educated, but not expert, reader.

She seems very scrupulous about discussing the limitations of the science without discounting the substance of what we do know or what it strongly suggests, even if it isn't conclusive. Her agenda seems to be sincerely trying to understand the situation to the best of her scientific ability, based on the scientific evidence, and communicating it clearly, without spinning it to fit an agenda or narrative.

Beside the stats from the CDC and my state department of health, she's the first place I go for Covid info.

Which state?

I'm from NYC, but have lived in CT for quite a while.

The CT department of health has daily reports for the state as a whole, and weekly 7-day case averages by city (although the data is a week old when they post it).

The CDC website has 7-day rolling averages by county for a bunch of different metrics (cases, hospitalizations, deaths, positivity rate, etc.) that are usually up to date within a day or two.

To clarify, I look to these government sites for data, especially local data, but not necessarily for guidance. That's why I like Katelyn Jetelina's site, because she's a scientist analyzing, synthesizing and vetting research and data from many sources. It's not half-baked media reports of research and data, and not government guidance that is from a public health perspective (rather than an individual health perspective, which is what I care about) at best, and tainted by political and economic considerations at worst.

Edit: I just discovered that my city has a good dashboard with daily and 7-day average data. It's nice to have specific city data because that's where I live and work, and the situation in my specific city isn't necessarily the same as the county or state as a whole.

[HarthorneWingo]

Gov. Hochul extends NYS indoor mask mandate until February 10. I don't recall everyone being masked-up at MSG during the recent home stand.

[BKlutch]

For Wingo and the other ancients, Joni Mitchell just wrote she stands with Neil Young.

https://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=1592

I Stand With Neil Young!

Posted January 28, 2022

I’ve decided to remove all my music from Spotify. Irresponsible people are spreading lies that are costing people their lives. I stand in solidarity with Neil Young and the global scientific and medical communities on this issue. —Joni Mitchell

Read An Open Letter to Spotify: A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy.

[BKlutch]

Gov. Hochul extends NYS indoor mask mandate until February 10. I don't recall everyone being masked-up at MSG during the recent home stand.

When I was at the Garden last Sunday to see them play the Clips, the policy was proof of vaccination or wear a mask.

The entire family next to me, 5 African Americans including kids, parents, and grandfather, all wore masks. I wore mine, even though I've been boosted.

[HarthorneWingo]

Gov. Hochul extends NYS indoor mask mandate until February 10. I don't recall everyone being masked-up at MSG during the recent home stand.

When I was at the Garden last Sunday to see them play the Clips, the policy was proof of vaccination or wear a mask.

The entire family next to me, 5 African Americans including kids, parents, and grandfather, all wore masks. I wore mine, even though I've been boosted.

Wow. So a patron could conceivably have COVID and still get in if they wore a surgical mask? No test either?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Gov. Hochul extends NYS indoor mask mandate until February 10. I don't recall everyone being masked-up at MSG during the recent home stand.

When I was at the Garden last Sunday to see them play the Clips, the policy was proof of vaccination or wear a mask.

The entire family next to me, 5 African Americans including kids, parents, and grandfather, all wore masks. I wore mine, even though I've been boosted.

Wow. So a patron could conceivably have COVID and still get in if they wore a surgical mask? No test either?

I was at UBS arena Tuesday night(2nd time in 2 weeks) and there was no one enforcing any mask rule at all. Hardly anyone was wearing their mask. It was ridiculous. No one is enforcing it anywhere I have been lately.

[BKlutch]

Gov. Hochul extends NYS indoor mask mandate until February 10. I don't recall everyone being masked-up at MSG during the recent home stand.

When I was at the Garden last Sunday to see them play the Clips, the policy was proof of vaccination or wear a mask.

The entire family next to me, 5 African Americans including kids, parents, and grandfather, all wore masks. I wore mine, even though I've been boosted.

Wow. So a patron could conceivably have COVID and still get in if they wore a surgical mask? No test either?

Seems so. But wait, there's more...

About 4 months ago a friend of mine went to Barclays to see the Nyets play. He said checking was spotty and he had no idea who was vaxxed and some didn't wear masks, so he tried to stay away from the maskless. He wore a mask at all times except when eating.

About 3 days later, he tested positive for Covid. He is boosted, so his symptoms were a sore throat and cough, but no fever. A week later, he had bronchitis on top of Covid, but did well with antibiotics.

Of course, I'd told him many times that being a Brooklyn fan would ruin him. Since that time, he's gained a much greater appreciation for how dangerous Kyrie is and how complicit management has been in allowing him to play part time. I'm glad he survived, but it wasn't guaranteed.

[Jethrobodine123]

For Wingo and the other ancients, Joni Mitchell just wrote she stands with Neil Young.

https://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=1592

I Stand With Neil Young!

Posted January 28, 2022

I’ve decided to remove all my music from Spotify. Irresponsible people are spreading lies that are costing people their lives. I stand in solidarity with Neil Young and the global scientific and medical communities on this issue. —Joni Mitchell

Read An Open Letter to Spotify: A call from the global scientific and medical communities to implement a misinformation policy.

So it looks like:

Canadians 2
Americans 0

Joni suffered from polio as a child, she would know something about the importance of vaccines. Gordon Lightfoot next. If only we could get number 1 on Spotify Drake and Bieber to get on board, that would be great. I have noticed Spotify's stock has dipped 25% since all of this started, so they're beginning to feel the heat where it hurts them the most, in their wallets.

J

[BKlutch]

For Wingo and the other ancients, Joni Mitchell just wrote she stands with Neil Young.

https://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=1592

I Stand With Neil Young!

Duplicate.

[BKlutch]

For Wingo and the other ancients, Joni Mitchell just wrote she stands with Neil Young.

https://jonimitchell.com/news/newsitem.cfm?id=1592

So it looks like:

Canadians 2
Americans 0

Joni suffered from polio as a child, she would know something about the importance of vaccines. Gordon Lightfoot next. If only we could get number 1 on Spotify Drake and Bieber to get on board, that would be great. I have noticed Spotify's stock has dipped 25% since all of this started, so they're beginning to feel the heat where it hurts them the most, in their wallets.

J

I'd forgotten Joni had suffered from polio. My recollection as a kid was she was this incridibly beautiful older blond goddess with a voice and a spirit, an inspiration to many of us. A few years later, it was largely her influence that got me interested in music by Dylan, Joan Baez, and many many others.

There was also an article on The Verge a few months back that showed Rogan's influence has plummeted. Although Spotify doesn't release numbers on how many people play their podcasts, the article showed examined the increase in hits to sites of his guests after appearing on his show. These dropped by 50% after the anti-vax shyt on Spotify began, but probalby also reflected his taking himself off of other platforms. Either way, he gets paid on his huge contract - just like Porzingis gets paid the max even though he will never perform up to the level of his salary.

So, isn't it a wonderful world where two of our favorite people, KP and Rogan, both get paid max salaries despite not performing up to how they've been paid? (I want $millions to not do a good job, too.) I have to admit, although KP may be sorely disappointing Dallas fans, at least he isn't contributing to the spread of any deadly diseases (other than greed and narcissism).

[Jethrobodine123]

So it looks like:

Canadians 2
Americans 0

Joni suffered from polio as a child, she would know something about the importance of vaccines. Gordon Lightfoot next. If only we could get number 1 on Spotify Drake and Bieber to get on board, that would be great. I have noticed Spotify's stock has dipped 25% since all of this started, so they're beginning to feel the heat where it hurts them the most, in their wallets.

J

I'd forgotten Joni had suffered from polio. My recollection as a kid was she was this incridibly beautiful older blond goddess with a voice and a spirit, an inspiration to many of us. A few years later, it was largely her influence that got me interested in music by Dylan, Joan Baez, and many many others.

There was also an article on The Verge a few months back that showed Rogan's influence has plummeted. Although Spotify doesn't release numbers on how many people play their podcasts, the article showed examined the increase in hits to sites of his guests after appearing on his show. These dropped by 50% after the anti-vax shyt on Spotify began, but probalby also reflected his taking himself off of other platforms. Either way, he gets paid on his huge contract - just like Porzingis gets paid the max even though he will never perform up to the level of his salary.

So, isn't it a wonderful world where two of our favorite people, KP and Rogan, both get paid max salaries despite not performing up to how they've been paid? (I want $millions to not do a good job, too.) I have to admit, although KP may be sorely disappointing Dallas fans, at least he isn't contributing to the spread of any deadly diseases (other than greed and narcissism).

Joni is the cat's meow, a genius in my book. She's every bit the lyricist as Dylan with much more sophisticated chords and music that Dylan can't compete with. She remains underrated by many and deserves to be mentioned with the very best songwriters of all time and she'd be the first to tell you this.

There is a growing subscription cancellation going on with Spotify that could really make a difference, no doubt about it. It's good to see the consumer use the power that they've always had and use it for good. Hope it continues.

KP is a sensitive subject matter on this board so I'll try to stay out of the fray. Knicks fans are some of the best fans in the league but far too emotional, it can be a positive and a negative. KP is playing very well for the Mavs, he's averaging what 20/9/2 and he's playing at a high level defensively so it's debatable whether he's worth the max. Probably not but not that far off either. He could be killing it even more on the offensive side of things but Luka is so very ball dominant and he looks him off so many times a game that I think there's something negative going on with them. I do believe that injuries will hurt his career so moving him was in all likelihood the best way to go for you guys.

The Knicks need to move away from Randle, I said on this board last year, he should be moved then while he was playing well, but people scoffed at me. Don't like his game, never liked his game.

J

[BKlutch]

I'd forgotten Joni had suffered from polio. My recollection as a kid was she was this incridibly beautiful older blond goddess with a voice and a spirit, an inspiration to many of us. A few years later, it was largely her influence that got me interested in music by Dylan, Joan Baez, and many many others.

There was also an article on The Verge a few months back that showed Rogan's influence has plummeted. Although Spotify doesn't release numbers on how many people play their podcasts, the article showed examined the increase in hits to sites of his guests after appearing on his show. These dropped by 50% after the anti-vax shyt on Spotify began, but probalby also reflected his taking himself off of other platforms. Either way, he gets paid on his huge contract - just like Porzingis gets paid the max even though he will never perform up to the level of his salary.

So, isn't it a wonderful world where two of our favorite people, KP and Rogan, both get paid max salaries despite not performing up to how they've been paid? (I want $millions to not do a good job, too.) I have to admit, although KP may be sorely disappointing Dallas fans, at least he isn't contributing to the spread of any deadly diseases (other than greed and narcissism).

Joni is the cat's meow, a genius in my book. She's every bit the lyricist as Dylan with much more sophisticated chords and music that Dylan can't compete with. She remains underrated by many and deserves to be mentioned with the very best songwriters of all time and she'd be the first to tell you this.

There is a growing subscription cancellation going on with Spotify that could really make a difference, no doubt about it. It's good to see the consumer use the power that they've always had and use it for good. Hope it continues.

KP is a sensitive subject matter on this board so I'll try to stay out of the fray. Knicks fans are some of the best fans in the league but far too emotional, it can be a positive and a negative. KP is playing very well for the Mavs, he's averaging what 20/9/2 and he's playing at a high level defensively so it's debatable whether he's worth the max. Probably not but not that far off either. He could be killing it even more on the offensive side of things but Luka is so very ball dominant and he looks him off so many times a game that I think there's something negative going on with them.

The Knicks need to move away from Randle, I said on this board last year, he should be moved then while he was playing well, but people scoffed at me. Don't like his game, never liked his game.

J

The problem with trading Randle when he was at his peak is that he WAS our offense, so it was impossible. Now, it's only subject to the value received for him.

But this is OT for this discussion LOL. I'm really glad that people with integrity and a sense of responsibility to their fellow human beings can still take a stand in an age where cash is king.

[8516knicks]

from today's huffpost: LOUD ANTI-VAX TROOPER DEAD AFTER COVID FIGHT

The guy who quit on a viral video last year didn't "do" vaccines. So Covid did him.

[CharlesOakley]

For Wingo and the other ancients, Joni Mitchell just wrote she stands with Neil Young.

I have the unpopular opinion of not giving a **** what Neil Young or Joni Mitchell think. Why are we trying to hold a podcast to higher standards than Fox News? I also have the unpopular opinion of thinking Joe Rogan is mostly correct, children should not be taking the vaccine. If you look at the VAERS data, children aged 5-11 had a 0.24% chance to have a serious event after receiving the vaccine. Of the 850,000 people who died of covid, less than 750 were children under the age of 18. I am vaccinated as is my wife but I will not subject my kids to it.

I also think they should stop calling it a vaccine as it does not provide immunity and does not prevent spreading the disease. The CDC recently changed the definition from "immunity" to "protection".

Get your health in order and realize the virus is never going away. We are sacrificing a generation of our young so that a bunch of boomers feel safe. I'll be here wearing my tinfoil hat.