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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#101 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:24 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:the white flag gif was just a mind game to make you think i gave up, but i never did. thenodopetrumpians will not be able to steal this win. the win was made official after he signed that extension! everything after the extension is irrelavant. you are trying to win a war that already ended a year ago. let it go man!!!

why are we giving 20 mil to a back up pg when it's clear the knicks aren't going anywhere with this core and thibs. we should be blowing up the whole team and going full youth instead of overpaying for 26 year olds that won't change this team into a contender. you're just prolonging the treadmill. wait for someone like donovan mitchell or tatum to ask out instead of giving the bag to brunson.



They trying to trade this bum, not even a year into his extension, your nation will crumble if they actually trade him anytime in the next 4 yrs. I don't even think they have running water in most of Meloghanistan, just Mountain dew, it's a backwards nation that I'm trying to help. The belief in Randle is the nations religion and we are going to abolish that and bring analytics and reason here.


I remember this convo, you said all the same things about Fred, you about to call him Jalen Belton arent you? Only for him to comeback and average 20-22ppg for the Pistons next year while we pray that some big time FA will pick us, even though we don't have a PG. I'm just prolonging the treadmill?

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The man who actually wanted Randle resigned and wanted to make the playoffs last years is telling me I want to prolong the treadmill? This is Fox news level spinning, rather One America News Network.

like i said, the win was already made official!! stop trying to steal it!!!! randle getting traded after the win doesn't mean anything to us. we won!

and get it right, we run off milk, not mountain dew. oreo built castles with milk as the source of energy. it's very efficient!

don't look now but fred van felton is shooting 34% from the field in his last 8 games. he's still very inconsistent and toronto is just .500. eventually they are going to move him beause they aren't going to win anything soon. in fact, there are a number of toronto fans on their board that already want him traded.

me wanting randle to get resigned was just to win the war officially against the nodopetrumpians! now it's time to blow up the team and go full youth!



Nah, I told you many times you won the battle, the war would be won by me, and it was. The entire board except for you and Rob are against Randle now, exactly like I predicted in the scriptures of Randle is trash. I called my shot, said everything that would happen before it did.

Yall drink Mountain dew and sour power for breakfast, the least healthy nation there is, I tried to introduce a fitness plan and half the nation had micro-heart attacks.


What's Fred shooting on the season, what's Randle shooting? Let me know them numbers! Hold up, you gonna talk night and day about how bad Kemba is to protect Randle, then turn around and try to talk bad about Fred, a PG that would be the best we've had in 20 yrs? Meloghanistan might need to be bombed, I don't know if I can change this level of indoctrination, almost as bad as North Korea, Melo Jong-Un.

So, what do we do about the gaping hole at PG? I need answers, whats your plan.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#102 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 am

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They trying to trade this bum, not even a year into his extension, your nation will crumble if they actually trade him anytime in the next 4 yrs. I don't even think they have running water in most of Meloghanistan, just Mountain dew, it's a backwards nation that I'm trying to help. The belief in Randle is the nations religion and we are going to abolish that and bring analytics and reason here.


I remember this convo, you said all the same things about Fred, you about to call him Jalen Belton arent you? Only for him to comeback and average 20-22ppg for the Pistons next year while we pray that some big time FA will pick us, even though we don't have a PG. I'm just prolonging the treadmill?

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The man who actually wanted Randle resigned and wanted to make the playoffs last years is telling me I want to prolong the treadmill? This is Fox news level spinning, rather One America News Network.

like i said, the win was already made official!! stop trying to steal it!!!! randle getting traded after the win doesn't mean anything to us. we won!

and get it right, we run off milk, not mountain dew. oreo built castles with milk as the source of energy. it's very efficient!

don't look now but fred van felton is shooting 34% from the field in his last 8 games. he's still very inconsistent and toronto is just .500. eventually they are going to move him beause they aren't going to win anything soon. in fact, there are a number of toronto fans on their board that already want him traded.

me wanting randle to get resigned was just to win the war officially against the nodopetrumpians! now it's time to blow up the team and go full youth!



Nah, I told you many times you won the battle, the war would be won by me, and it was. The entire board except for you and Rob are against Randle now, exactly like I predicted in the scriptures of Randle is trash. I called my shot, said everything that would happen before it did.

Yall drink Mountain dew and sour power for breakfast, the least healthy nation there is, I tried to introduce a fitness plan and half the nation had micro-heart attacks.


What's Fred shooting on the season, what's Randle shooting? Let me know them numbers! Hold up, you gonna talk night and day about how bad Kemba is to protect Randle, then turn around and try to talk bad about Fred, a PG that would be the best we've had in 20 yrs? Meloghanistan might need to be bombed, I don't know if I can change this level of indoctrination, almost as bad as North Korea, Melo Jong-Un.

So, what do we do about the gaping hole at PG? I need answers, whats your plan.

let it go man, you lost! these conspiracy theories you are making up sounds insane!!!

fred van felton shooting 42% from the field
randle shooting 41% from the field

looks like i was right again!

i would've went after fox if the kings didn't want to keep him. simons would be my next target. or buy low on sexton. younger players with upside. or even draft one.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#103 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:39 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:like i said, the win was already made official!! stop trying to steal it!!!! randle getting traded after the win doesn't mean anything to us. we won!

and get it right, we run off milk, not mountain dew. oreo built castles with milk as the source of energy. it's very efficient!

don't look now but fred van felton is shooting 34% from the field in his last 8 games. he's still very inconsistent and toronto is just .500. eventually they are going to move him beause they aren't going to win anything soon. in fact, there are a number of toronto fans on their board that already want him traded.

me wanting randle to get resigned was just to win the war officially against the nodopetrumpians! now it's time to blow up the team and go full youth!



Nah, I told you many times you won the battle, the war would be won by me, and it was. The entire board except for you and Rob are against Randle now, exactly like I predicted in the scriptures of Randle is trash. I called my shot, said everything that would happen before it did.

Yall drink Mountain dew and sour power for breakfast, the least healthy nation there is, I tried to introduce a fitness plan and half the nation had micro-heart attacks.


What's Fred shooting on the season, what's Randle shooting? Let me know them numbers! Hold up, you gonna talk night and day about how bad Kemba is to protect Randle, then turn around and try to talk bad about Fred, a PG that would be the best we've had in 20 yrs? Meloghanistan might need to be bombed, I don't know if I can change this level of indoctrination, almost as bad as North Korea, Melo Jong-Un.

So, what do we do about the gaping hole at PG? I need answers, whats your plan.

let it go man, you lost! these conspiracy theories you are making up sounds insane!!!

fred van felton shooting 42% from the field
randle shooting 41% from the field

looks like i was right again!

i would've went after fox if the kings didn't want to keep him. simons would be my next target. or buy low on sexton. younger players with upside. or even draft one.



You lost and waved a white flag and are trying to spin it, shameful. I would never do such a thing, no retreat, no surrender. You know you took an L, and everyone here does too.


Fred is about 9" shorter and shooting better from the field despite taking 4 more threes a game, and this is you being right? He also makes less money than Julius's extension. This is why I'm trying to teach Meloicans the importance of analytics, only a deranged megalomanic dictator would try to claim that as being right, Dear leader Melo Jong-Un.

We don't have the caproom to sign Simons, they can match for him, you don't want Brunson for $20 million but are okay with Fox for $30-37 million and the amount of assets it would take to get him? Fox is exactly what we don't need, he's making legit superstar money for "good" player production. Sexton isn't a PG, he only works if you have a big guard next to him, and we don't have that because we passed on Haliburton and Lonzo. So no point guard for the next few years, got it, I'm telling my generals not to bomb this country now but they may force my hand.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#104 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:44 am

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Nah, I told you many times you won the battle, the war would be won by me, and it was. The entire board except for you and Rob are against Randle now, exactly like I predicted in the scriptures of Randle is trash. I called my shot, said everything that would happen before it did.

Yall drink Mountain dew and sour power for breakfast, the least healthy nation there is, I tried to introduce a fitness plan and half the nation had micro-heart attacks.


What's Fred shooting on the season, what's Randle shooting? Let me know them numbers! Hold up, you gonna talk night and day about how bad Kemba is to protect Randle, then turn around and try to talk bad about Fred, a PG that would be the best we've had in 20 yrs? Meloghanistan might need to be bombed, I don't know if I can change this level of indoctrination, almost as bad as North Korea, Melo Jong-Un.

So, what do we do about the gaping hole at PG? I need answers, whats your plan.

let it go man, you lost! these conspiracy theories you are making up sounds insane!!!

fred van felton shooting 42% from the field
randle shooting 41% from the field

looks like i was right again!

i would've went after fox if the kings didn't want to keep him. simons would be my next target. or buy low on sexton. younger players with upside. or even draft one.



You lost and waved a white flag and are trying to spin it, shameful. I would never do such a thing, no retreat, no surrender. You know you took an L, and everyone here does too.


Fred is about 9" shorter and shooting better from the field despite taking 4 more threes a game, and this is you being right? He also makes less money than Julius's extension. This is why I'm trying to teach Meloicans the importance of analytics, only a deranged megalomanic dictator would try to claim that as being right, Dear leader Melo Jong-Un.

We don't have the caproom to sign Simons, they can match for him, you don't want Brunson for $20 million but are okay with Fox for $30-37 million and the amount of assets it would take to get him? Fox is exactly what we don't need, he's making legit superstar money for "good" player production. Sexton isn't a PG, he only works if you have a big guard next to him, and we don't have that because we passed on Haliburton and Lonzo. So no point guard for the next few years, got it, I'm telling my generals not to bomb this country now but they may force my hand.

the conspiracy theories are not good for your health bro!!!! you lost!

he shoots 1% better than randle. men lie women lie numbers dont!

trade for simons since dame is never leaving portland.

fox has star upside unlike midget brunson.

sexton has some playmaking ability that can be unlocked. would buy low on him.

your generals are working for me now bruh! they all left you when randle signed that extension! last year the war was about if randle was going to get extended. don't change the narrative on me!

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yes im taking an L on randle, but not in this narrative :lol:
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#105 » by dakomish23 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:49 am

Brunson catch and shoot 3s

21-22
35.2% on 1.8 3PA

19-20
43.7% 1.2 3PA

20-21
43.6% 2.1 3PA

That’s an important number if you’re going have him here with Randle & RJ, who need the ball in their hands a lot and have proven to be willing passers to open 3PT shooters
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Post#106 » by evevale » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:24 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Nah, you literally waved the white flag, all the countries of Knicks UN saw it. Now I got work and re-education programs to take all Meloicans out of the 3rd world, to a brighter future without isolation spinning turnovers or ineffective step backs. You keep this up and we're gonna take your Oreo refineries and wells.

3toheadmelo wrote:the white flag gif was just a mind game to make you think i gave up, but i never did. thenodopetrumpians will not be able to steal this win. the win was made official after he signed that extension! everything after the extension is irrelavant. you are trying to win a war that already ended a year ago. let it go man!!!


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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#107 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:59 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
cgmw wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
It’s not even that they rationalized it. They started to support the move which is different and much worse. We do need a point guard that’s for sure but at this point we are not even close to a championship so anything that marginally makes us better that requires us to give up assets and a lot of cap space doesn’t make sense to me.

I guess if we just want to watch more entertaining basketball than sure but no star player is saying “Hey the Knicks have RJ and Jalen Brunson, I think I want to sign here.” We’d just be doing to try to be a treadmill team.

Exactly, and what’s worse is that Jalen Brunson would only sign here if he had literally no other options for the same money. Players know there’s no future here. They know it’s volatile and can turn nasty on a dime. He’d only come here as a payday and then probably demand a trade like Randle is probably doing as we speak.

But whatever, let’s see how Dolan’s CAA Mafia dream plays out. Can’t wait for those CAA superstars to start banging down the door to Leon’s pork store.


your

(volume of words) / (amount of thought about Brunson that goes into posts)

appears to be tending to infinity.

But I didn't expect the casual kicker.


It would be much shorter to post: Knicks are doomed, the end.
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Post#108 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:04 am

dakomish23 wrote:Brunson catch and shoot 3s

21-22
35.2% on 1.8 3PA

19-20
43.7% 1.2 3PA

20-21
43.6% 2.1 3PA

That’s an important number if you’re going have him here with Randle & RJ, who need the ball in their hands a lot and have proven to be willing passers to open 3PT shooters


We might have some differences over Bullocks (and probably Burks) but these are the kinds of players a team wants, and I'd think, we'd want around RJ. Or include RJ as one of the kinds of players you want around a star, because even if RJ stays flawed and somewhat inefficient (cue Channel documentary), he's still a team oriented player who does enough little things well.

Grimes
Brunson
RJ
- easy to fit around any other players

Mitch
Cam
IQ
McBride
Sims
Obi
- less sure about ease of fit, but still young, cheap and outside of Cam, who is a bit of a rehab project, all seem to be willing to be coached and work hard.

That team still needs a couple of stars, but it's the kind of team that can be decent while waiting for it to happen.

It doesn't even mean that every last guy of Fournier/Randle/Burks/Noel/Rose/Taj has to go, just that I'd always be looking to deal them for the correct deal. Especially Burks and Kemba right away.
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Post#109 » by cgmw » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:06 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
cgmw wrote:Exactly, and what’s worse is that Jalen Brunson would only sign here if he had literally no other options for the same money. Players know there’s no future here. They know it’s volatile and can turn nasty on a dime. He’d only come here as a payday and then probably demand a trade like Randle is probably doing as we speak.

But whatever, let’s see how Dolan’s CAA Mafia dream plays out. Can’t wait for those CAA superstars to start banging down the door to Leon’s pork store.


your

(volume of words) / (amount of thought about Brunson that goes into posts)

appears to be tending to infinity.

But I didn't expect the casual kicker.


It would be much shorter to post: Knicks are doomed, the end.

Well, except that I’ll likely buy tickets and watch every minute of that doom. Hell, I’d love to see Brunson run point.
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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#110 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:10 am

cgmw wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
your

(volume of words) / (amount of thought about Brunson that goes into posts)

appears to be tending to infinity.

But I didn't expect the casual kicker.


It would be much shorter to post: Knicks are doomed, the end.

Well, except that I’ll likely buy tickets and watch every minute of that doom. Hell, I’d love to see Brunson run point.


I get it could be Dolan/CAA shenanigans, but I think he'd be a decent upgrade, in a legitimate basketball way.

Then again, I convinced myself Fournier would be decent. Again, I think the concept was right, but man, he was the wrong guy.
Either that or it's Randle's complete failure to adjust. Probably both.
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Post#111 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:28 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
cgmw wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
It would be much shorter to post: Knicks are doomed, the end.

Well, except that I’ll likely buy tickets and watch every minute of that doom. Hell, I’d love to see Brunson run point.


I get it could be Dolan/CAA shenanigans, but I think he'd be a decent upgrade, in a legitimate basketball way.

Then again, I convinced myself Fournier would be decent. Again, I think the concept was right, but man, he was the wrong guy.
Either that or it's Randle's complete failure to adjust. Probably both.
Jesus, the Knicks can never just get sh*t right.

I still think the problem with EF is a combination of Thibs (87%) and Randle (13%). Why not use him the way he's supposed to be used and not in some weird non-positional fit that he's never filled?
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Post#112 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:32 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
cgmw wrote:Exactly, and what’s worse is that Jalen Brunson would only sign here if he had literally no other options for the same money. Players know there’s no future here. They know it’s volatile and can turn nasty on a dime. He’d only come here as a payday and then probably demand a trade like Randle is probably doing as we speak.

But whatever, let’s see how Dolan’s CAA Mafia dream plays out. Can’t wait for those CAA superstars to start banging down the door to Leon’s pork store.


your

(volume of words) / (amount of thought about Brunson that goes into posts)

appears to be tending to infinity.

But I didn't expect the casual kicker.


It would be much shorter to post: Knicks are doomed, the end.

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Post#113 » by dakomish23 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:09 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Brunson catch and shoot 3s

21-22
35.2% on 1.8 3PA

19-20
43.7% 1.2 3PA

20-21
43.6% 2.1 3PA

That’s an important number if you’re going have him here with Randle & RJ, who need the ball in their hands a lot and have proven to be willing passers to open 3PT shooters


We might have some differences over Bullocks (and probably Burks) but these are the kinds of players a team wants, and I'd think, we'd want around RJ. Or include RJ as one of the kinds of players you want around a star, because even if RJ stays flawed and somewhat inefficient (cue Channel documentary), he's still a team oriented player who does enough little things well.

Grimes
Brunson
RJ
- easy to fit around any other players

Mitch
Cam
IQ
McBride
Sims
Obi
- less sure about ease of fit, but still young, cheap and outside of Cam, who is a bit of a rehab project, all seem to be willing to be coached and work hard.

That team still needs a couple of stars, but it's the kind of team that can be decent while waiting for it to happen.

It doesn't even mean that every last guy of Fournier/Randle/Burks/Noel/Rose/Taj has to go, just that I'd always be looking to deal them for the correct deal. Especially Burks and Kemba right away.


It would be a long term signing on a player potentially still on the way up. Idk if I’m all in on 20 mil for him, but I feel we’re almost forced to not balk at it, considering what we spend 20 mil on
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Post#114 » by HopelessKnick » Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:39 am

One positive thing about getting Brunson is that it would be weakening the Mavs significantly---maybe even to the point where the 23 pick could be late lottery (if we manage to create capspace to sign him outright which is probably unlikely).
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Post#115 » by DickGrayson » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:19 pm

why would Mavs let Brunson go? He's easily their best young player behind Luka.
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Post#116 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:22 pm

DickGrayson wrote:why would Mavs let Brunson go? He's easily their best young player behind Luka.



He's an URFA, they can match offers for him but he can sign wherever he wants and leave.


Unfortunately our stupid ass front office signed Nerlens, Burks, Kemba, Randle and Fournier while apparently coveting Brunson who was going to be a FA a year later. No foresight from our front office and they've been on the Brunson train before they made all those signings :lol: You would think they would have left some room to go after him but nope.
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Post#117 » by DickGrayson » Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:28 pm

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DickGrayson wrote:why would Mavs let Brunson go? He's easily their best young player behind Luka.



He's an URFA, they can match offers for him but he can sign wherever he wants and leave.


Unfortunately our stupid ass front office signed Nerlens, Burks, Kemba, Randle and Fournier while apparently coveting Brunson who was going to be a FA a year later. No foresight from our front office and they've been on the Brunson train before they made all those signings :lol:


I agree.

Well good thing is those Fournier/Walker contracts expire after the following season and the 2023 Free Agent pool may have potential, Alot of vets, but definitely a couple of players who can make us contenders.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2023/ufa/
most of these guys will resign, but a few will probably not. Can we move Randle's contract by then?

Randle contract cripples us because it forces our roster to be designed around him for the next 4 seasons. Randle is too slow and defensively handicapped to play PF, having him at center means Robinson/Noel don't play.

Burks/Fournier IMO can get us something, not a player but an expiring. Grimes/Reddish can fill their roles. RJ is looking comfortable at the 2 and I believe McBride will be a good two way, he can take Quickley's minutes because Quickley to me is trade bait to try to move Randle's contract.
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Post#118 » by prophet_of_rage » Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:01 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:No. He’s the point guard we’ve been adding for decades.
He',s old, injured and two years from retirement?

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Re: Is Brunson the pg Knicks have needed 

Post#120 » by dakomish23 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:52 am

dakomish23 wrote:Just heard this so not sure if true

Rick Brunson was Leon Rose’s first client

Rick Brunson coached with Thibs in MIN

Jalen Brunson was a Leon Rose client

Also heard DAL doesn’t have interest in moving Brunson as he’s become the #2 perimeter guy they've been looking for in FA. Only reason why they’d move him is out of fear of losing him for nothing or getting a really good player back. But rumors are exactly that, rumors
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor


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