Trades and Transactions, 2022 Edition

[F N 11]

Kings been wanting a PF for a while. They want Randle. #sauces

[WargamesX]

Kings been wanting a PF for a while. They want Randle. #sauces

I want to see how Randle plays against the Bucks. If ever there was a “get my head out of my ass” game to convince a FO not to trade him it would be him doing well in this game.

If not

Barnes + Sacramentos 2022 first for Randle works very well

[yo_penny1]

Randle for Westbrook... who says no?

[SuperflyKnick]

Randle for Westbrook... who says no?

As long as LA takes Fournier, burks, Noel and gives back 3 first red pks then yes

[WargamesX]

Randle for Westbrook... who says no?

As long as LA takes Fournier, burks, Noel and gives back 3 first red pks then yes

Emphasis on those first three round picks

[nyk2017]

We need a legitimate PG so bad. This team is complete trash.

[WargamesX]

Kings Trade: Marvin Bagley + Tristan Thompson + Sacramento’s 2022 pick

Knicks Trade: Julius Randle

Sacramento does it because Julius is an upgrade at PF to Bagley and if they were willing to deal with disgruntled Ben Simmons, why not Disgruntled Julius Randle at a much more realistic price? They are on a 4 game losing streak and need to get assets for Bagley and Tristan who are both likely going to walk.

Knicks do it to clear cap space to go after Brunson in 2022 and a very likely 2022 lottery pick that even if the kings get their stuff together will at worst be late lottery or just outside it. Odds are it will be a lottery. They also get a chance to kick the tires on Bagley.

Second trade

Cleveland Trades: Ricky Rubio and 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders
Knicks Trade: Fournier

Cleveland does it because Fournier can hide on their defensive oriented team and focus almost exclusively on scoring next to Garland

Knicks do it for cap space and trade assets in those second rounders

Conclusion: Knicks going 2022 with $37 Million in cap space enough to get Brunson as a UFA and pay Mitch to stay as the starting center without going to deep over the salary cap. They might have enough to pay Seminic and Roku to Join the nba team and be competitive.

[Oscirus]

heres a trade suggestion

Read on Twitter

/photo/1

[RHODEY]

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

He' (or Zion or both!) will be a Knick eventually, but it'll take time....

You think Zion can deal with NYC? He's just a nice quiet country kid. Moreover, until he shows that he can stay on the court for a full season, this is just fantasizing.

Watch on YouTube

[knickstape4ever]

Kings Trade: Marvin Bagley + Tristan Thompson + Sacramento’s 2022 pick

Knicks Trade: Julius Randle

Sacramento does it because Julius is an upgrade at PF to Bagley and if they were willing to deal with disgruntled Ben Simmons, why not Disgruntled Julius Randle at a much more realistic price? They are on a 4 game losing streak and need to get assets for Bagley and Tristan who are both likely going to walk.

Knicks do it to clear cap space to go after Brunson in 2022 and a very likely 2022 lottery pick that even if the kings get their stuff together will at worst be late lottery or just outside it. Odds are it will be a lottery. They also get a chance to kick the tires on Bagley.

Second trade

Cleveland Trades: Ricky Rubio and 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders
Knicks Trade: Fournier

Cleveland does it because Fournier can hide on their defensive oriented team and focus almost exclusively on scoring next to Garland

Knicks do it for cap space and trade assets in those second rounders

Conclusion: Knicks going 2022 with $37 Million in cap space enough to get Brunson as a UFA and pay Mitch to stay as the starting center without going to deep over the salary cap. They might have enough to pay Seminic and Roku to Join the nba team and be competitive.

would love to do those deals. have been proposing the same exact Kings one all season. similar return as Vucevic. only question tho....did Randle tank his value so much that the pick wouldn't be on the table?

Fournier for Rubio and a 2nd or two just makes too much sense. talked about it earlier today, he'd be perfect for them b/c they need the scoring and don't have to worry about defense w/ Mobley and Allen

Another 2 deal I'd look to make:

Burks to Memphis for their 2022 1st + Culver. he's played like sh*t recently so hopefully he also didn't tank his value

Kemba to New Orleans for Satoransky, future 2nd

these deals would clear the books and open up ~65M in cap space. I like Brunson and think he'd be a good signing, but I'd pursue Anfernee Simons first (even tho he's restricted), I like his shooting paired w/ RJ, whereas Brunson is more of a slasher. would also have the $ to make a run at Ayton, Bamba, Bridges, Sexton. IMO it's best to pursue the RFA's who fit the timeline; bank on their upside

[WargamesX]

Kings Trade: Marvin Bagley + Tristan Thompson + Sacramento’s 2022 pick

Knicks Trade: Julius Randle

Sacramento does it because Julius is an upgrade at PF to Bagley and if they were willing to deal with disgruntled Ben Simmons, why not Disgruntled Julius Randle at a much more realistic price? They are on a 4 game losing streak and need to get assets for Bagley and Tristan who are both likely going to walk.

Knicks do it to clear cap space to go after Brunson in 2022 and a very likely 2022 lottery pick that even if the kings get their stuff together will at worst be late lottery or just outside it. Odds are it will be a lottery. They also get a chance to kick the tires on Bagley.

Second trade

Cleveland Trades: Ricky Rubio and 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders
Knicks Trade: Fournier

Cleveland does it because Fournier can hide on their defensive oriented team and focus almost exclusively on scoring next to Garland

Knicks do it for cap space and trade assets in those second rounders

Conclusion: Knicks going 2022 with $37 Million in cap space enough to get Brunson as a UFA and pay Mitch to stay as the starting center without going to deep over the salary cap. They might have enough to pay Seminic and Roku to Join the nba team and be competitive.

would love to do those deals. have been proposing the same exact Kings one all season. similar return as Vucevic. only question tho....did Randle tank his value so much that the pick wouldn't be on the table?

Fournier for Rubio and a 2nd or two just makes too much sense. talked about it earlier today, he'd be perfect for them b/c they need the scoring and don't have to worry about defense w/ Mobley and Allen

Another 2 deal I'd look to make:

Burks to Memphis for their 2022 1st + Culver. he's played like sh*t recently so hopefully he also didn't tank his value

Kemba to New Orleans for Satoransky, future 2nd

these deals would clear the books and open up ~65M in cap space. I like Brunson and think he'd be a good signing, but I'd pursue Anfernee Simons first (even tho he's restricted), I like his shooting paired w/ RJ, whereas Brunson is more of a slasher. would also have the $ to make a run at Ayton, Bamba, Bridges, Sexton. IMO it's best to pursue the RFA's who fit the timeline; bank on their upside

I hope between Thibs not making adjustments (and maybe being stubborn as **** as part of trade Kayfabe) and the general disgruntled act Randle is publicly doing. That teams ignore their recent bad play. Guys have played worst knowing a trade is coming before. Getting cap space could definitely help. They just need to think about fit more this summer.

[Grover]

The irony of acquiring Westbrook for a Thib’s team might prompt the latter to walk away. Perhaps reuniting with Love could seal the deal. I wonder about the egos and pride of Knick management in realizing it is selling season with next year very likely to be a punt. Much like Jackson teased us with Porzingis, Quickley got our hopes up high but these guys don’t remind me of the next Jerry West at talent evaluation. Even Jerry freely admits that he missed a heck of a lot more than he hit on his picks over the years. I had much higher expectations before they largely decided to roll it back and bring in Brad Steven’s discards for a defensive minded coach. Once again I go back to Ernie Grunfeld’s trade for Latrell Sprewell as the last great trade this organization pulled off. Then again, I thought OJ Mayo looked like a future star at USC.

[snadler]

Kings Trade: Marvin Bagley + Tristan Thompson + Sacramento’s 2022 pick

Knicks Trade: Julius Randle

Sacramento does it because Julius is an upgrade at PF to Bagley and if they were willing to deal with disgruntled Ben Simmons, why not Disgruntled Julius Randle at a much more realistic price? They are on a 4 game losing streak and need to get assets for Bagley and Tristan who are both likely going to walk.

Knicks do it to clear cap space to go after Brunson in 2022 and a very likely 2022 lottery pick that even if the kings get their stuff together will at worst be late lottery or just outside it. Odds are it will be a lottery. They also get a chance to kick the tires on Bagley.

Second trade

Cleveland Trades: Ricky Rubio and 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders
Knicks Trade: Fournier

Cleveland does it because Fournier can hide on their defensive oriented team and focus almost exclusively on scoring next to Garland

Knicks do it for cap space and trade assets in those second rounders

Conclusion: Knicks going 2022 with $37 Million in cap space enough to get Brunson as a UFA and pay Mitch to stay as the starting center without going to deep over the salary cap. They might have enough to pay Seminic and Roku to Join the nba team and be competitive.

Trade #1 no way are the kings trading a lottery pick for Randle

Trade #2-love the idea, cavs have a solid back court and good athletic shooters, don’t see them in the need of Fournier

[WargamesX]

Kings Trade: Marvin Bagley + Tristan Thompson + Sacramento’s 2022 pick

Knicks Trade: Julius Randle

Sacramento does it because Julius is an upgrade at PF to Bagley and if they were willing to deal with disgruntled Ben Simmons, why not Disgruntled Julius Randle at a much more realistic price? They are on a 4 game losing streak and need to get assets for Bagley and Tristan who are both likely going to walk.

Knicks do it to clear cap space to go after Brunson in 2022 and a very likely 2022 lottery pick that even if the kings get their stuff together will at worst be late lottery or just outside it. Odds are it will be a lottery. They also get a chance to kick the tires on Bagley.

Second trade

Cleveland Trades: Ricky Rubio and 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders
Knicks Trade: Fournier

Cleveland does it because Fournier can hide on their defensive oriented team and focus almost exclusively on scoring next to Garland

Knicks do it for cap space and trade assets in those second rounders

Conclusion: Knicks going 2022 with $37 Million in cap space enough to get Brunson as a UFA and pay Mitch to stay as the starting center without going to deep over the salary cap. They might have enough to pay Seminic and Roku to Join the nba team and be competitive.

Trade #1 no way are the kings trading a lottery pick for Randle

Trade #2-love the idea, cavs have a solid back court and good athletic shooters, don’t see them in the need of Fournier

Why wouldn’t they trade a lottery pick for Randle? He is averaging 18/10/6 and you watch him he doesn’t want to be in NY. The talent is still there he just hates the team. Plus Sacramento which has never been a FA destination is getting him on 4 years of contract for expirings no one wanted.

Once you realize that Randle’s biggest issue is he is toxic because NY fans and media made him toxic. The quicker you realize he is still a good player. He deserves blame for this too, but it’s a trade that would take him out of that toxic situation. If Reddish can get a protected pick, and Caris “I am injured all the time” is being shopped for two picks…. Then Randle is worth a lottery pick and that is potentially a steal for him. I am tempted to say the Knicks should ask for two picks but then if that’s the case Indy might be a better offer.

The other biggest issue are teams doubling Randle, but the kings have a scoring punch in Fox and a distributor in Haliburton and a 3&D guy in Barnes, 3 pt shooting and defensive big men on their roster. Opposing teams can’t double him like they do in NY.

[TBri1974]

I could see the above Sac town trade with toms protections on the pick. Honestly speaking, if Sactown could run out Halliburton, Fox, Barnes, Randle and Noel, with Hield off the bench, they could be pretty good. I could see it being built around Randle, Noel and Burks and players they don't like plus Mitchell and a protected pick. Win=win.

[Marty McFly]

Randle for Westbrook... who says no?

As long as LA takes Fournier, burks, Noel and gives back 3 first red pks then yes

we don't need all that. they can have all of them for free.

[WargamesX]

Randle for Westbrook... who says no?

As long as LA takes Fournier, burks, Noel and gives back 3 first red pks then yes

we don't need all that. they can have all of them for free.

Stop wanting to help the Lakers. They want to not waste the end of Lebron’s window? Cool, that is simple, send the Knicks Three first round picks!

[Marty McFly]

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

He' (or Zion or both!) will be a Knick eventually, but it'll take time....

You think Zion can deal with NYC? He's just a nice quiet country kid. Moreover, until he shows that he can stay on the court for a full season, this is just fantasizing.

nice quiet country kid, you say?



He has the temperament to deal with the media here. if there's one thing that won't be an issue, it'll be that.

[HarthorneWingo]

He' (or Zion or both!) will be a Knick eventually, but it'll take time....

You think Zion can deal with NYC? He's just a nice quiet country kid. Moreover, until he shows that he can stay on the court for a full season, this is just fantasizing.

nice quiet country kid, you say?



He has the temperament to deal with the media here. if there's one thing that won't be an issue, it'll be that.

Haha! Times were a little different back then.

[knickstape4ever]

Kings Trade: Marvin Bagley + Tristan Thompson + Sacramento’s 2022 pick

Knicks Trade: Julius Randle

Sacramento does it because Julius is an upgrade at PF to Bagley and if they were willing to deal with disgruntled Ben Simmons, why not Disgruntled Julius Randle at a much more realistic price? They are on a 4 game losing streak and need to get assets for Bagley and Tristan who are both likely going to walk.

Knicks do it to clear cap space to go after Brunson in 2022 and a very likely 2022 lottery pick that even if the kings get their stuff together will at worst be late lottery or just outside it. Odds are it will be a lottery. They also get a chance to kick the tires on Bagley.

Second trade

Cleveland Trades: Ricky Rubio and 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders
Knicks Trade: Fournier

Cleveland does it because Fournier can hide on their defensive oriented team and focus almost exclusively on scoring next to Garland

Knicks do it for cap space and trade assets in those second rounders

Conclusion: Knicks going 2022 with $37 Million in cap space enough to get Brunson as a UFA and pay Mitch to stay as the starting center without going to deep over the salary cap. They might have enough to pay Seminic and Roku to Join the nba team and be competitive.

Trade #1 no way are the kings trading a lottery pick for Randle

Trade #2-love the idea, cavs have a solid back court and good athletic shooters, don’t see them in the need of Fournier

Why wouldn’t they trade a lottery pick for Randle? He is averaging 18/10/6 and you watch him he doesn’t want to be in NY. The talent is still there he just hates the team. Plus Sacramento which has never been a FA destination is getting him on 4 years of contract for expirings no one wanted.

Once you realize that Randle’s biggest issue is he is toxic because NY fans and media made him toxic. The quicker you realize he is still a good player. He deserves blame for this too, but it’s a trade that would take him out of that toxic situation. If Reddish can get a protected pick, and Caris “I am injured all the time” is being shopped for two picks…. Then Randle is worth a lottery pick and that is potentially a steal for him. I am tempted to say the Knicks should ask for two picks but then if that’s the case Indy might be a better offer.

The other biggest issue are teams doubling Randle, but the kings have a scoring punch in Fox and a distributor in Haliburton and a 3&D guy in Barnes, 3 pt shooting and defensive big men on their roster. Opposing teams can’t double him like they do in NY.

I think the pick would have to be top 3-4 protected if its on the table. can't see them giving up an unprotected 1st