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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#141 » by GTR11 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:15 am

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ArksNetsSince99 wrote:LoL for u Harden is second best ? :lol:



Most likely you won't comprehend it but, who's being best player and putting number is irrelevant. Harden is best playmaker on this team by far. Without him we ain't winning s***. Kyrie and KD can have greatest run, won't be enough. Been proven as a fact last year vs Bucks. Game 3 proved that much.


Best in turnovers ?hogging the ball for for 20 seconds ? Yes he is the best playmaker because we have no one else , otherwise he’s been huge disappointment here beside maybe two or three games



You need to put all agenda aside, step back and look at entire picture again. Than maybe ( huge if imo ) you'll get it.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#142 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:17 am

GTR11 wrote:
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:

Most likely you won't comprehend it but, who's being best player and putting number is irrelevant. Harden is best playmaker on this team by far. Without him we ain't winning s***. Kyrie and KD can have greatest run, won't be enough. Been proven as a fact last year vs Bucks. Game 3 proved that much.


Best in turnovers ?hogging the ball for for 20 seconds ? Yes he is the best playmaker because we have no one else , otherwise he’s been huge disappointment here beside maybe two or three games



You need to put all agenda aside, step back and look at entire picture again. Than maybe ( huge if imo ) you'll get it.

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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#143 » by GTR11 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:20 am

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HardenGoat wrote:Imagine watching a game and saying the better player is one that sits at home by their own choosing and then calling an available player a bum. You can’t make this **** up. :noway:


Because haters gonna hate no matter what.


It's beyond that. Comprehension of entire situation is the main problem. If you don't understand root of the problem, than anything else will be wrong and irrelevant.

Hate is an anger of lack of knowledge. Combination of hate and hot takes is the reason we in this situation as a country.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#144 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:29 am

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HardenGoat wrote:Imagine watching a game and saying the better player is one that sits at home by their own choosing and then calling an available player a bum. You can’t make this **** up. :noway:


Because haters gonna hate no matter what.


It's beyond that. Comprehension of entire situation is the main problem. If you don't understand root of the problem, than anything else will be wrong and irrelevant.

Hate is an anger of lack of knowledge. Combination of hate and hot takes is the reason we in this situation as a country.


Nothing like start a political crap on a basketball board
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#145 » by GTR11 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:56 am

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
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Because haters gonna hate no matter what.


It's beyond that. Comprehension of entire situation is the main problem. If you don't understand root of the problem, than anything else will be wrong and irrelevant.

Hate is an anger of lack of knowledge. Combination of hate and hot takes is the reason we in this situation as a country.


Nothing like start a political crap on a basketball board


You started it first. I highlighted it for you, yet here you are. Dude go chill and take a sleep, you clearly can't think straight right now.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#146 » by hisairness » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:00 am

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:
:rofl:

What a joke.

LoL for u Harden is second best ? :lol:



Most likely you won't comprehend it but, who's being best player and putting number is irrelevant. Harden is best playmaker on this team by far. Without him we ain't winning s***. Kyrie and KD can have greatest run, won't be enough. Been proven as a fact last year vs Bucks. Game 3 proved that much.


Going to have to disagree with you on this one. Harden is the best playmaker on this team but I have no doubt Nets win it all last year if Giannis doesn't injure Kyrie. Nets beat Bucks in 6.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#147 » by Prokorov » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:20 am

Shocked to come here and the talk is whether Kyrie or Harden is the bigger bum. We've been bad forever we finally get stars and guys dump on them. Harden has been outstanding. is he playing like a top 5 MVP? no. But he has played like an all-star and all-nba player. All while playing through a few injuries and several games where it was just him and rookies. Is Kyrie better at the moment? Maybe? Does it matter? is it somehow a knock on Harden if he falls behind a guy who dropped 27 points on 50/40/90? Both are great and we need both to win...

The hate should be towards Nash. He is the thing that is killing this team.

How the F do you not challenge that last foul with Kyrie/Klay?

There are 9 seconds left. what are you saving the challenge for quadruple overtime? You have so much to gain there and so little to lose. You win the challenge and at worst they call it a foul after the inbound and its 2 free throws instead of 3. At best they overturn it (since it wasnt a foul) and you have a jump ball or possession.

Losing your last timeout doesn't really matter there. 9 seconds is still plenty of time to take the inbound and go full court and get a quality shot.

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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#148 » by Prokorov » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:22 am

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Shark wrote:That play was right in front of Nash, how did he not challenge that?


He blows, at least the second time this year he failed to challenge an obvious call in crunch time.

Honestly, I don't trust the refs to overturn that, and we need the timeouts.


We didnt need the timeout.

9 seconds is plenty of time to inbound and go full court. And the timeout is meaningless if your down 4 instead of 3. You have to challenge it. At worst, they see it wasnt really a foul but dont fully overturn it and say it was after the inbound and its 2 FTs instead of 3.

You have to challenge it,
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Post#149 » by Prokorov » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:39 am

Nash threw up all over what was a great effort by the players... my thoughts:

1) Blake and Bembry need to play. I don't want to hear about spacing. you can get by with 1 of those guys on the floor at all times. They both make things happen on both ends and really even with Blakes shooting struggles its a shot he can hit and Bembry has been solid from three and has always been good from the corners despite being subpar overall. Blake makes up for our lack of shot blocking with his charges. both make a ton of momentum plays. LMA has been solid, but the second he isnt shooting 75% on midrange, he looks really average.

2) Said this last game. I want cam to be a gunner. im fine with step backs and tunnel vision and looking to be overly aggressive. but he needs to learn to be aware of the flow of the game. You can take a step-back YOLO 33 foot shot when they just turned your 2 point lead into a 7 point deficit. you need to stop the bleeding their with a good shot. They went on to hit a 3 on the other end and built a big lead. It will be hard to play him in important games until he gets it

3) Kessler stat sheet doesnt look good but he was outstanding. excellent D on curry. some big blocked shots. didnt shrink when he got the ball of a kyrie double team, he was aggressive. He is exactly what this team needs around the big 3. huge find by marks.

4) Kyrie owns Curry. and they both know it. Curry avoided him like the plague and anytime he got switched on to him Kyrie called a clear out and abused him. He was fantastic tonight. got us good shots when they doubled and cooked when they didnt. Keyed the big 20-5 run and hit an enormous shot late. Still always confuses me why he doesnt get more foul calls for a guy who goes to the rim that much.

5) GSW frustrated us in the first game with double teams and box and 1. Kyrie breaks that. unlike Harden/KD he is quick and fast enough to attack the double team and turn the corner on the trapping big. and it makes all the difference. If Harden played tonight we destroy them... i dont fear that team at all in a potential finals series.

6) Claxton doenst look right yet. his D was a step slow. he usually holds his own or better switched on smalls. not the case tongiht... hopefully its just rush and needing to feel 100% on that hammy.

7) Nash has to go. he has to. its cost us too many games in a season where we cant afford to drop so many games to coaching. we would likely be 5 games better with without him. which would have us in 1st.

Not challenging that play was criminal. he had another obvious one as well. The decision not to trap after we cut it 1 was an awful decision too. we gave klay a three that made it a 4 point game. could have trapped and fouled, had more time and the ball + a chance to tie. jsut awful and im sick of it.

Hopefully we get harden back tuesday
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#150 » by DarkXaero » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:55 am

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Carry on with the agenda though...
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#151 » by Prokorov » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:57 am

Read on Twitter


I dont know what this is about. but...

1) you challenge. period. its 9 seconds left. if you lose the challenge you lose the challenge. you are not winning the game if you dont challenge anyway cause your down 4 with under 10 seconds. force them to look at it. evne if they dont fully overturn it, they can say it was during the inbounds to save face and keep it a 1 possession game.

2) If someone on your staff told you not to they need to be fired, draw, and quartered. There has never been a bigger no-brainer challenge.

3) If its the refs telling him not to challenge, thats gross and the nets should file a complaint with the league. The refs can just tell you straight up they wont overturn it, without looking on the screen several angles and slo mo. thats trash
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#152 » by Prokorov » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:59 am

DarkXaero wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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Carry on with the agenda though...


There is a problem though. it wasn't a foul. and even if it was a foul, you still have to challenge. The game is over if the call isnt reversed. not challenging just ends the game. And there is no downside to challenging.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#153 » by GTR11 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:18 am

Prokorov wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=PxzWGHfwIkaUHYOykNXWYQ

Read on Twitter
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Carry on with the agenda though...


There is a problem though. it wasn't a foul. and even if it was a foul, you still have to challenge. The game is over if the call isnt reversed. not challenging just ends the game. And there is no downside to challenging.


Agreed and I'll add the fact that it kills players moral too. It's like they now have to think if coach got them 100%.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#154 » by Jay555 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:31 am

DarkXaero wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=PxzWGHfwIkaUHYOykNXWYQ

Read on Twitter
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Carry on with the agenda though...


So Refs and Nash killed us. lol.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#155 » by GYK » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:04 am

Should have done it but boy oh boy with every lineup our style of play has to change. Insanity.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#156 » by DarkXaero » Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:26 am

Prokorov wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=PxzWGHfwIkaUHYOykNXWYQ

Read on Twitter
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Carry on with the agenda though...


There is a problem though. it wasn't a foul. and even if it was a foul, you still have to challenge. The game is over if the call isnt reversed. not challenging just ends the game. And there is no downside to challenging.
Nets lose their final timeout if they lose the challenge, so yes there's a downside...
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#157 » by TheNetsFan » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:32 pm

Do the L2M reports still get published? It would be interesting.

The refs should just review everything on that during their timing review. If Thompson initiated contact or it's just incidental, then just get the call right. Nash shouldn't have to challenge an already reviewed play.

I think the Curry play is bigger. Curry was flirting with foul trouble all game. Make him less aggressive that much earlier. Even then, I don't trust the refs to change the foul from a rookie to a star.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#158 » by TheNetsFan » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:36 pm

Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:
hisairness wrote:
He blows, at least the second time this year he failed to challenge an obvious call in crunch time.

Honestly, I don't trust the refs to overturn that, and we need the timeouts.


We didnt need the timeout.

9 seconds is plenty of time to inbound and go full court. And the timeout is meaningless if your down 4 instead of 3. You have to challenge it. At worst, they see it wasnt really a foul but dont fully overturn it and say it was after the inbound and its 2 FTs instead of 3.

You have to challenge it,

I'm pretty sure that was during the play Curry jumped into Kess. I think there was about 5 or 6 minutes left.
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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#159 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:40 pm

HardenGoat wrote:Imagine watching a game and saying the better player is one that sits at home by their own choosing and then calling an available player a bum. You can’t make this **** up. :noway:


Harden played on a grade 2 hamstring injury for this team while Kyrie refuses to take a simple shot.

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Re: Nets @ Warriors 

Post#160 » by NetsWorld » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:04 pm

If you guys read the Nash quote carefully, as pissed as I am with him for costing us this game, he said he would get someone in trouble…. Kyrie already concurred it was a foul, who do you think Nash was talking about it? Kyrie is the obvious answer.
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