Randle Trade Talk

[Im Coming Home]

He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.

The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.

You got to be kidding me

Westbrook has played with PG. KD, Harden, Melo, Beal, and Lebron and they couldn’t make it work… but the Knicks will make it work because he gives full effort

Define make it work, because I said we're not contending either way. With Westbrook or with Randle and Fournier. But at least Westbrook don't half ass it out there and he won't take minutes from our young forwards.

I say the Knicks will be better off with Russell than with Randle's lack of effort. And we only have 2 years, not even, instead of what we committed to with Randle and Fournier. Are we doing well right now? You'd prefer that we stay as is?

Exactly, its about the contracts.

If we could get Wall instead I'd prefer that over WB but I think Rockets in full rebuild, not gonna trade for Randle, but if we could do a 3-way trade to get Wall I'd be down.

[Gorilla Monsoon]

He even outplayed AD in that game. As a Randle fan I wish we had that version of him back. But unfortunately I think he needs a change of scenery

Speaking of a change in scenery, I am starting to think that a Randle, Fournier and Burks for Westbrook trade should actually be a no-brainer for the Lakers.

Fournier should be able to give them what they expect to get from Buddy Hield and is at a cheaper contract with same length. Julius should provide insurance for the injury prone AD and I could actually see him thrive in that C position similar to how the Lakers have been playing LeBron. Burks meanwhile provides them a Swiss army type of veteran player that they can use.

This trade could be like a golden ticket for the Lakers to be able to salvage the season but not sure if LeGM’s ego will bite on an offer like this.

The Lakers would always take that deal, the issue is the Knicks shouldn’t. Am I the only guy who remembers the Knicks traded the Cavs JR and Shump for some seconds and then Lebron thanked the Knicks (aka Phil Jackson) for being so stupid…. at the championship parade?

That is what trading Randle, Fournier, and Burks for Westbrook and a 2027 1st is doing. It’s giving Lebron a championship and an opportunity for him to thank the Knicks AGAIN for being so stupid at the championship parade. I expect the Knicks FO remembers this because Aller was part of that trade from the Cavs side.

I don't like the Lakers or LeBron, but I can deal with them winning the title this year (they won't) if it helps the Knicks in the long run. Who really cares about LeBron's smart ass remarks? It's not like LA is a conference rival.

Now... I don't like Westbrook either, but with just two years left on his deal including this season, and his giant contract making it easy for the Lakers to absorb Randle, Fournier and one of Kemba or Burks? Plus a first rounder? That's pretty good. I would absolutely do that right now if it's the best offer we have. Better than letting Randle marinate in all of this turmoil for the rest of the season.

[HopelessKnick]

I actually wouldn't mind that deal with the Lakers---it kind of resets everything and accomplishes a whole lot without giving up any of our young assets:

1) it gives our young players a lot of opportunities as it eases a couple of logjams: Obi will get a lot of minutes and opportunities at PF, Cam will get 30+ minutes at SF and generally Westbrook will create some opportunities here and there.

2)Westbrook only has 1 year remaining after this year. a 47million expiring contract could be of huge value next season in itself.

3)it would likely further improve our draft position. I think after this trade there is a legitimate chance at cracking the top 8.

4) the 27 FRP could turn out to be much better than we anticipate today. It should have only very minor protection, otherwise it's not worth it.

The downside is we'd have to watch Westbrook play for probably around 100 games. That is quite a burden as well.

[HopelessKnick]

There is of course one major potential downside with the trade and that is Thibs playing Rose and Westbrook for 40 minutes a game alongside each other.

[Oscirus]

westbrooks playmaking alone would make us better. Remember when we was patting perry on the back a few years ago for turning down pauls contract?

[GnarlsOakley]

Here’s what I’d do:

3-way trade. Knicks, Spurs, Philadelphia

Randle to Spurs for Jakob Poeltl and Thaddeus Young, who will be flipped to Philadelphia along with Evan Fournier and Alec Burks for Tobias Harris and Danny Green

Knicks trade: Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Alec Burks
Knicks receive: Tobias Harris, Danny Green

Spurs trade: Jakob Poeltl, Thaddeus Young
Spurs receive: Julius Randle

76ers trade: Tobias Harris, Danny Green
76ers receive: Jakob Poeltl, Thaddeus Young, Evan Fournier, Alec Burks

[Jalen Bluntson]

What is the date he can be traded? The 3rd? 4 days? The media is gonna go crazy this week!! I predict a Broussard appearance where he is wrong about everything. Some Begley spec where he mentions the Knicks sauces having major interest in one player...then names every other player in the league as other potential targets. Berman will be Vermin. Maybe some Bondy fodder. It should be a glorious week of rumors and speculation and sauces galore! Let the trolling of Knicks fans begin!!

In the end...the Knicks will make some lateral move that makes no difference and we run this same squad the rest of the season!

[GnarlsOakley]

as a matter of fact, how about simplifying it to:

* Randle to Spurs for Jakob Poeltl and Thaddeus Young
* Fournier, Burks, Nerlens to Philly for Tobias Harris

PG Immanuel Quickley - D.Rose - Deuce McBride (Kemba)
SG RJ Barrett - Quentin Grimes
SF Tobias Harris - Cam Reddish
PF Obi Toppin - Thaddeus Young
C Jakob Poeltl - Mitchell Robinson

[HopelessKnick]

What is the date he can be traded? The 3rd? 4 days? The media is gonna go crazy this week!! I predict a Broussard appearance where he is wrong about everything. Some Begley spec where he mentions the Knicks sauces having major interest in one player...then names every other player in the league as other potential targets. Berman will be Vermin. Maybe some Bondy fodder. It should be a glorious week of rumors and speculation and sauces galore! Let the trolling of Knicks fans begin!!

In the end...the Knicks will make some lateral move that makes no difference and we run this same squad the rest of the season!

Feburary 3rd.

[Jalen Bluntson]

What is the date he can be traded? The 3rd? 4 days? The media is gonna go crazy this week!! I predict a Broussard appearance where he is wrong about everything. Some Begley spec where he mentions the Knicks sauces having major interest in one player...then names every other player in the league as other potential targets. Berman will be Vermin. Maybe some Bondy fodder. It should be a glorious week of rumors and speculation and sauces galore! Let the trolling of Knicks fans begin!!

In the end...the Knicks will make some lateral move that makes no difference and we run this same squad the rest of the season!

Feburary 3rd.

Randlehog day! Will Punksatawney Julius see his own shadow? If so...4 more years of him!

He has to go.

[Jimmit79]

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To really put trading for Westbrook into perspective

Honestly at this point I would Randle and Evans for westbrook and first round pick.

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[WargamesX]

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To really put trading for Westbrook into perspective

He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.

The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.

Was thinking more along the lines of just sitting Russ and keep him in the books in case we need his contract in a trade although Dolan would most likely prefer to use Russ to sell tickets.

Russ will be dependent on guys like Obi, Grimes and Mitch for him to rake up his assist totals although my worry is that he would grab a chunk of ball handling duties away from RJ and Cam.

The only way you can trade Westbrook is to find a team dumber than you are to think they can make it work. It’s not going to work. The league thinks the Knicks are the dumbest team because they have done stuff prior like trade their best player and two roleplayers for a star past his prime like Westbrook and a pick that won’t convey for 5 years.

We might as well refer to Westbrook as Steve Francis or Tracey McGrady.

[WargamesX]

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To really put trading for Westbrook into perspective

Honestly at this point I would Randle and Evans for westbrook and first round pick.

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I am going to assume these are all troll reponses because no way this many people support a Westbrook trade after it’s clear he would come here and waste two years of both the team and fans time.

[WargamesX]

He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.

The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.

You got to be kidding me

Westbrook has played with PG. KD, Harden, Melo, Beal, and Lebron and they couldn’t make it work… but the Knicks will make it work because he gives full effort

Define make it work, because I said we're not contending either way. With Westbrook or with Randle and Fournier. But at least Westbrook don't half ass it out there and he won't take minutes from our young forwards.

I say the Knicks will be better off with Russell than with Randle's lack of effort. And we only have 2 years, not even, instead of what we committed to with Randle and Fournier. Are we doing well right now? You'd prefer that we stay as is?

so Westbrook won’t interfere with RJ’s development being a ball hog, or take time from IQ playing, or have the media mock the team because “look at how the stupid the Knicks are” which will alter how the youth feel about playing on the team.

Keep Westbrook away, that trade is line and step with all the other bad Knicks trades that end up getting GM’s fired and the Knicks made into laughing stocks

Just because he is famous doesn’t mean he can contribute to winning anymore.

[thebuzzardman]

Westbrook is the ultra stupid mega PG version of Randle. At the exact point his athleticism, which nearly his entire game is predicated on, is abandoning him.

Randle, for all his sh*tshow antics, at least is entering his athletic prime, which will be necessary for all the spin moves he'll be breaking out over the next 4 years for the Knicks as they are stuck with him.

[thebuzzardman]

Oh look. Bill Simmons trolling Knicks for clicks.

Clam chowder hack.

[robillionaire]

They should do a Westbrook trade, he’ll expire after next season and we aren’t going to be players in this free agency anyway, send out Randle and anybody you can out of Fournier, Kemba, Burks even Rose if they want him. Take back Westbrook and whatever cheap contract that makes the roster size work out. Then maybe you can buy out Westbrook next year or just play him. it doesn’t matter because next year is also a wasted season and we will be tanking again

[thebuzzardman]

Hey, remember this dude?

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damn actually put in effort just for the contract. sad.

Why isn't he trying to hit his incrntives? I don't think itl's the contract. He isn't chilling. He's actively unhappy.

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He doesn't like playing with Kemba and Fournier and is pouting because he knows they are ass on defense so he's decided to bag it on defense too. Obviously instead he should be doing max effort, but I think that's the case.

I also think that he doesn't like playing with Kemba and Fournier because they need the ball and Randle doesn't like playing with players that need it too much or not coming from him. And he went into the season in his head and pressing because he signed the extension and is feeling the pressure of living up to it, and the he's most comfortable doing that is by playing exactly the way he likes, which is dominating 80% of the offense, doing most of the scoring and distributing to compliant, limited players like Elf and Bullocks.

Finally, I think Thibs doesn't know how to handle players and has two modes, which is being a hardass or giving in completely. Perhaps Woodson was more able to fill the middle ground of communication/tough love. Thibs knows tough or enabling, possibly. And since Thibs knows Randle is pressing and he's dependent on him as the best player, Thibs has decided to be hands off and let him work through it, when the obvious choice right now is to make an example of him.

That's all I've got as theories.

Unless it's something personally terrible, like his new child has health issues and the team is rallying behind him, where they are just leaving him alone. And I don't think that's it, because it really appears as a more resentful, pissed off thing.

[WargamesX]

They should do a Westbrook trade, he’ll expire after next season and we aren’t going to be players in this free agency anyway, send out Randle and anybody you can out of Fournier, Kemba, Burks even Rose if they want him. Take back Westbrook and whatever cheap contract that makes the roster size work out. Then maybe you can buy out Westbrook next year or just play him. it doesn’t matter because next year is also a wasted season and we will be tanking again

Next year doesn’t have to be a wasted season! If the Knicks use common sense they can get back pieces and continue the development of this team.

[robillionaire]

They should do a Westbrook trade, he’ll expire after next season and we aren’t going to be players in this free agency anyway, send out Randle and anybody you can out of Fournier, Kemba, Burks even Rose if they want him. Take back Westbrook and whatever cheap contract that makes the roster size work out. Then maybe you can buy out Westbrook next year or just play him. it doesn’t matter because next year is also a wasted season and we will be tanking again

Next year doesn’t have to be a wasted season! If the Knicks use common sense they can get back pieces and continue the development of this team.

Well they can always shut down Westbrook like the rockets did with John wall and then draft someone with the top 10 pick they are about to get and then play all their younger players and tank again. It’s only wasted in terms of if you want the team to win which isn’t going to happen again for a very long time