2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Dragic/Boucher and a pick for Harris and Bamba

I like this premise to boost the depth chart, but expand this deal to include Ross for Birch & Flynn. If a first needs to be included then it should be lotto protected.

Raptors Receive: Bamba - Harris - Ross

Magic Receive: Birch - Boucher - Dragic - Flynn - FRP (lotto protected)

Raptors Depth Chart

Vanvleet - Banton
Trent Jr. - Harris
Anunoby - Ross
Barnes - Achuiwa
Siakam - Bamba

lol no way the Magic want Birch, he asked out from the Magic.

[tecumseh18]

People are pretty quick to add FRPs to these proposals, but let's remember, these aren't the 2017 or 2019 Raptors. The 2022 FRP is not going to be in the late 20s. It could very well be in the mid-teens, where Giannis and Kawhi were drafted. Tough to give that up for - e.g. - Eric Gordon, who turns 34 this year.

I predict no deal is going to happen that will take more than two second round picks to consumate, i.e. what we gave up for PJ Tucker. But that could still be useful.

[Los_29]

People are pretty quick to add FRPs to these proposals, but let's remember, these aren't the 2017 or 2019 Raptors. The 2022 FRP is not going to be in the late 20s. It could very well be in the mid-teens, where Giannis and Kawhi were drafted. Tough to give that up for - e.g. - Eric Gordon, who turns 34 this year.

I predict no deal is going to happen that will take more than two second round picks to consumate, i.e. what we gave up for PJ Tucker. But that could still be useful.

There is no way they'd give up a FRP for a guy like Eric Gordon. Only way it makes sense is if they are getting back a solid, young piece back. That actually makes more sense than keeping the pick in my opinion.

[Mattatron]

Zero interest from POR

Laugh all you want, but no need to move off a solid if unspectacular two way guy on a good contract for a handful of uninteresting bench guys and a SRP.

Portland will get better offers. This is ridiculous. Trading Trent for Powell just to trade Powell back to Toronto for Dragic' expiring, Flynn and some 2nds. This is suicidal management.

[KrazyP]

The Magic look like the best trading partner. They have several vets that they dont need on short term contracts.

Raps - Terrence Ross, Robin Lopez, Michael Carter Williams
Magic - Goran Dragic, Malachi Flynn, 2nd rounder

Why for the Magic? They essentially shed Ross's contract next year for Flynn and a 2nd rounder.

Why for the Raptors? They land a stop gap veteran C and guard without giving much up.

Unfortunately Flynn has looked pretty bad this year so not sure if actually has any remaining value. Maybe the Raps could also throw Svi in there?

[anotherhomer]

Lopez doesn't fit nurse defensive schemes....there's a reason raps wanted poetl

[billy_hoyle]

Laugh all you want, but no need to move off a solid if unspectacular two way guy on a good contract for a handful of uninteresting bench guys and a SRP.

Absolutely. No way Portland does that trade. Dragic and a 1st?

I don’t think that offer is unfair but I really don’t think we’re looking to move him.

Can I interest you in a almost new CJ McCollum?

I like CJ, but think Norm would be a better fit here due to acquisition cost, salary, age, defensive play, and contract control.

[Jtoneller1]

I think the deal is Bamba, Ross for Dragic, Flynn, FRP. Orlando gets a young PG on a rookie deal and an expiring to get out of Ross' second year. Avoid paying Bamba's next contract for a lotto protected FRP. We get a young C who can shoot and block shots and a vet who can knock down open threes.

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[Asif16]

Dragic + Flynn + Precious + 1st....for Jacob Poetl + Derrick White?

Spurs get 2 solid young pieces and a 1st for their rebuild. Also shed salary for next off-season with Zach Collins back and Dragic expriing.

Raptors get 2 solid semi-young rotational pieces. A solid Center in Poetl and also a playmaking/shooting backup Guard in Derrick White.

Fred VanVleet / Derick White / Banton
Gary Trent Jr. / Derick White / Banton
OG Anunoby / Scottie Barnes
Pascal Siakam / Chris Boucher
Jacob Poetl / Khem Birch

[dukes_wild]

The Magic look like the best trading partner. They have several vets that they dont need on short term contracts.

Raps - Terrence Ross, Robin Lopez, Michael Carter Williams
Magic - Goran Dragic, Malachi Flynn, 2nd rounder

Why for the Magic? They essentially shed Ross's contract next year for Flynn and a 2nd rounder.

Why for the Raptors? They land a stop gap veteran C and guard without giving much up.

Unfortunately Flynn has looked pretty bad this year so not sure if actually has any remaining value. Maybe the Raps could also throw Svi in there?

Feel like we could get a better return for Dragic's 18 million expiring than a couple of mediocre veterans

Lopez/Ross improve our depth marginally, but probably only really give us 1 or 2 more regular season wins

[Madhouse]

People are pretty quick to add FRPs to these proposals, but let's remember, these aren't the 2017 or 2019 Raptors. The 2022 FRP is not going to be in the late 20s. It could very well be in the mid-teens, where Giannis and Kawhi were drafted. Tough to give that up for - e.g. - Eric Gordon, who turns 34 this year.

I predict no deal is going to happen that will take more than two second round picks to consumate, i.e. what we gave up for PJ Tucker. But that could still be useful.

I would trade that first for an impact C like Turner, not for a solid rotational player.

[Rodrickle]

I think the deal is Bamba, Ross for Dragic, Flynn, FRP. Orlando gets a young PG on a rookie deal and an expiring to get out of Ross' second year. Avoid paying Bamba's next contract for a lotto protected FRP. We get a young C who can shoot and block shots and a vet who can knock down open threes.

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I wouldn't give up a first for them. maybe a 2nd or two. Ross is shooting horribly this year as well. And Bamba is gonna need $10M plus and is a gamble to be worth that imo

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[DreamTeam09]

I think the deal is Bamba, Ross for Dragic, Flynn, FRP. Orlando gets a young PG on a rookie deal and an expiring to get out of Ross' second year. Avoid paying Bamba's next contract for a lotto protected FRP. We get a young C who can shoot and block shots and a vet who can knock down open threes.

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I wouldn't give up a first for them. maybe a 2nd or two. Ross is shooting horribly this year as well. And Bamba is gonna need $10M plus and is a gamble to be worth that imo

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10mill for Bamba is not bad. I'd give him 4yrs 42. Nothing wrong with that and it's movable if need be. Can we replace some of the things Boucher does if not all.

I'd love to see this team with a big C, I think that it would open up another wrinkle in our game with Barnes Pascal and OG being good passers.

I want Zach Eday so I'd give up a 1st for Mo.

[JRoy]

Absolutely. No way Portland does that trade. Dragic and a 1st?

I don’t think that offer is unfair but I really don’t think we’re looking to move him.

Can I interest you in a almost new CJ McCollum?

I like CJ, but think Norm would be a better fit here due to acquisition cost, salary, age, defensive play, and contract control.

Everyone thinks the same thing, and should.

[dukes_wild]

I think the deal is Bamba, Ross for Dragic, Flynn, FRP. Orlando gets a young PG on a rookie deal and an expiring to get out of Ross' second year. Avoid paying Bamba's next contract for a lotto protected FRP. We get a young C who can shoot and block shots and a vet who can knock down open threes.

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I wouldn't give up a first for them. maybe a 2nd or two. Ross is shooting horribly this year as well. And Bamba is gonna need $10M plus and is a gamble to be worth that imo

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10mill for Bamba is not bad. I'd give him 4yrs 42. Nothing wrong with that and it's movable if need be. Can we replace some of the things Boucher does if not all.

I'd love to see this team with a big C, I think that it would open up another wrinkle in our game with Barnes Pascal and OG being good passers.

I want Zach Eday so I'd give up a 1st for Mo.

Bamba will be getting at least a 4/60m offer sheet this off-season, probably more.

[wegotthabeet]

Dragic/Boucher and a pick for Harris and Bamba

I like this premise to boost the depth chart, but expand this deal to include Ross for Birch & Flynn. If a first needs to be included then it should be lotto protected.

Raptors Receive: Bamba - Harris - Ross

Magic Receive: Birch - Boucher - Dragic - Flynn - FRP (lotto protected)

Raptors Depth Chart

Vanvleet - Banton
Trent Jr. - Harris
Anunoby - Ross
Barnes - Achuiwa
Siakam - Bamba

lol no way the Magic want Birch, he asked out from the Magic.

Well that's not even important. To me what matters is getting Bamba, ideally without giving up a 1st. Maybe the Magic want to dump Ross something like...

Raptors Receive: Bamba - Ross - MCW

Magic Receive: Boucher - Dragic - Flynn

[wegotthabeet]

I wouldn't give up a first for them. maybe a 2nd or two. Ross is shooting horribly this year as well. And Bamba is gonna need $10M plus and is a gamble to be worth that imo

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10mill for Bamba is not bad. I'd give him 4yrs 42. Nothing wrong with that and it's movable if need be. Can we replace some of the things Boucher does if not all.

I'd love to see this team with a big C, I think that it would open up another wrinkle in our game with Barnes Pascal and OG being good passers.

I want Zach Eday so I'd give up a 1st for Mo.

Bamba will be getting at least a 4/60m offer sheet this off-season, probably more.

hmmm maybe. I think closer to 4/50 or 12 ish mil per year. You might be right though I usually underestimate what players get as FA's.

[DreamTeam09]

I wouldn't give up a first for them. maybe a 2nd or two. Ross is shooting horribly this year as well. And Bamba is gonna need $10M plus and is a gamble to be worth that imo

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10mill for Bamba is not bad. I'd give him 4yrs 42. Nothing wrong with that and it's movable if need be. Can we replace some of the things Boucher does if not all.

I'd love to see this team with a big C, I think that it would open up another wrinkle in our game with Barnes Pascal and OG being good passers.

I want Zach Eday so I'd give up a 1st for Mo.

Bamba will be getting at least a 4/60m offer sheet this off-season, probably more.

The 3 teams with cap space probably aren't hunting for Bamba. Maybe Det or OKC buy I could easily see them chasing other players...

I don't think he gets that much at all. And he's an RFA, which means you gotta tie up your capspace for a few days minimum, yeah highly unlikely now actually

[Asif16]

Am I the only one who's not a fan of the Magic players? Outside of Bamba

1. Terence Ross is just a streaky shooter and thats it. He plays mediocre defense and is not a combo facilitating guard we need. I just dont see nurse liking him

2. Gary Harris has been abysmal since joining the Magic. Terrible shooting splits. Not to mention injury prone.

3. Robin Lopex is not a upgrade over Birch. He's barely an upgrade over Precious. If we want a Center...I think Masai wants a bigger piece

Mo Bamba is the only player I'd be ok with

[Asif16]

I'd trade Dragic + 1st for Spencer Dinwiddie.

He's the type of Combo Guard we need off the bench. Someone who I think still can break out. He's only owed 7 million his final year. A contract that can still be easily moved if he doesn't perform for us.

I remember a report saying the Raptors were interested in Dinwiide when he was with the Nets