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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#621 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:58 pm

Where is Kofi predicted to go in the draft?
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Post#622 » by Karanpal » Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:03 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Where is Kofi predicted to go in the draft?

Id guess undrafted
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Post#623 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:54 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Where is Kofi predicted to go in the draft?

Id guess undrafted


Yeah figured. I'd like us to add him on our summer league roster if we get the chance.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#624 » by Ell Curry » Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:46 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Where is Kofi predicted to go in the draft?

Id guess undrafted


Yeah figured. I'd like us to add him on our summer league roster if we get the chance.


I kind of expect one of Kofi, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Tshiebwe or Orlando Robinson to end up here as our 3rd center. TDJ might actually fit us best because he's the most mobile. Robinson is a terrible fit on D (Vecenie said he looked horrible defending in space at the pre-draft camp last year) for us but he can hit a 3. Tshiebwe was just born 20-30 years too late. Not a lob threat but can stick a 12-15 footer, but you just don't see centers take those anymore. Great rebounder though.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#625 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 1, 2022 11:32 am

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Where is Kofi predicted to go in the draft?

Id guess undrafted


Yeah figured. I'd like us to add him on our summer league roster if we get the chance.


He should go to Chicago and play with Ayo.
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Post#626 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Feb 1, 2022 2:46 pm

Ell Curry wrote:Kessler's stats are really strong but when you watch Auburn, Jabari Smith is such a good shooter at the 4 that the lane is totally open for Kessler. Very few college centers have that sort of room to get lobs and boards in.

I think Mark Williams is the better prospect because he looks fluid enough to defend forwards on the perimeter, which I really doubt Kessler has the mobility to do.

I'm not super sold on any of the centers in this draft. Can't see us taking one in the first round other than a falling Duren, as he at least has decent form on his jumper and he's so young that maybe his bad habits are fixable.

American centers are just getting worse and worse. Even using the Raptors broad definition of a 5, the only American centers with over 8 boards a game are: AD, Jarrett Allen, Wendell Carter Jr., Christian Wood, Drummond, Robert Williams, Bamba and Mobley. I think we'd rather just trade a first for one of the Orlando guys or Wood like Cleveland did with Jarrett Allen once they prove themselves a bit than hoping one of Kessler or Williams might end up a 12-8 guy at best. We didn't even go after Richaun Holmes who signed for cheap.

Kamagate looks alright, decent numbers against grown men. Not sure he's a physical enough rebounder from the highlights I've seen though.

They all look less likely to be positive NBA starters than Dyson Daniels to me.


There are a couple of raw Euro Cs we can go after but yeah agree there are slim pickings. But with our development we might be able to take a couple of them and make them a monster if they go undrafted or if we get a second round pick. Besides that I agree we're not going for a C.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#627 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Feb 1, 2022 2:49 pm

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Banton will be ready next season. :nod: David Johnson may be able to handle the 3rd PG duties next year instead of Flynn.

Bring back Jalen Harris to be the 3rd SG and 3rd PG. :nod:


Regardless of Banton, we need a VanVleet backup who can shoot the lights out and defend as a lock down.
I don't think Banton will become elite in shooting 3s, and he will need to show he can consistently make that mid-range pull up shot to be able to consistently create for himself (not far being a rotation player, but not yet).

I think we will need to add a shooter at PF/SF to space the floor, and this draft there are a few.


Nikola Jovic is shooting almost 40% from Euro 3 distance. 6'10 jumbo creator too. He's also still 18 1/2; as young as any freshman prospect.


I could see Sacramento drafting him because that's a Sacramento thing to do.
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Post#628 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 1, 2022 3:09 pm

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Regardless of Banton, we need a VanVleet backup who can shoot the lights out and defend as a lock down.
I don't think Banton will become elite in shooting 3s, and he will need to show he can consistently make that mid-range pull up shot to be able to consistently create for himself (not far being a rotation player, but not yet).

I think we will need to add a shooter at PF/SF to space the floor, and this draft there are a few.


Nikola Jovic is shooting almost 40% from Euro 3 distance. 6'10 jumbo creator too. He's also still 18 1/2; as young as any freshman prospect.


I could see Sacramento drafting him because that's a Sacramento thing to do.


No, because they chose Marvin Bagley Jr instead of Luka Doncic.
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Post#629 » by Indeed » Tue Feb 1, 2022 3:16 pm

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Nikola Jovic is shooting almost 40% from Euro 3 distance. 6'10 jumbo creator too. He's also still 18 1/2; as young as any freshman prospect.


I could see Sacramento drafting him because that's a Sacramento thing to do.


No, because they chose Marvin Bagley Jr instead of Luka Doncic.


I am still trying to understand between Jovic and Jordan Hall.
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Post#630 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Feb 1, 2022 3:57 pm

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Nikola Jovic is shooting almost 40% from Euro 3 distance. 6'10 jumbo creator too. He's also still 18 1/2; as young as any freshman prospect.


I could see Sacramento drafting him because that's a Sacramento thing to do.


No, because they chose Marvin Bagley Jr instead of Luka Doncic.


:banghead: I thought Vlade like his Euros and he drafts Bagley over Doncic. I can see them thinking it's Jokic younger brother though.
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Post#631 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 1, 2022 3:57 pm

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I could see Sacramento drafting him because that's a Sacramento thing to do.


No, because they chose Marvin Bagley Jr instead of Luka Doncic.


I am still trying to understand between Jovic and Jordan Hall.


Jordan Hall is 20, playing in an okay conference. Jovic is 18.5 and leads his national under 19 team. Now he's playing in a decent Euro League. Jordan Hall is more like a Dalano Banton type prospect.
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Post#632 » by Indeed » Tue Feb 1, 2022 4:21 pm

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No, because they chose Marvin Bagley Jr instead of Luka Doncic.


I am still trying to understand between Jovic and Jordan Hall.


Jordan Hall is 20, playing in an okay conference. Jovic is 18.5 and leads his national under 19 team. Now he's playing in a decent Euro League. Jordan Hall is more like a Dalano Banton type prospect.


He is shooting over 35% from 3 (both college years) at high volumn, so I am not sure we can compare him to Banton, even though his ass% is near 40% (Jovic at 20%), which I can see him being a PG than Jovic being a scorer.

Out side of Jovic being younger (Jovic will be 19 at draft night, so it is 1.5 year old difference, not that much), I see them being very similar, perhaps the only thing I would look at is their defense.
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Post#633 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Feb 1, 2022 4:28 pm

Jovic could be nice but you never tbh bc i thought Saric was even better prospect. He was just in a really good draft. But he didn't turn out that great.
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Post#634 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Feb 1, 2022 4:43 pm

I do know if chet doesn't get injured hes something different. There's not another him w his skillset who has shown it at a college level

Mostly bc hes a good passer and very unselfish on the offensive end. Great 3 point shooter for a big. Bigger than 7 feet. Elite shot blocker. Elite rebounder.

I could see him having a 15, 12, 4 dimes, 4 blocks kind of stat line shoting 40% from 3, 80+ from the line.
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Post#635 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Feb 1, 2022 4:50 pm

Jabari Smith to me is JJJ, but he can play the 3 too. He has more backcourt skill potential imo than JJJ ever did.
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Post#636 » by Kevin Willis » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:27 pm

I'm wondering if we can get Jalen Duren. I'm hoping he falls with guys like Ochai moving up with big games. Duren is a good C for our team.
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Post#637 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:41 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:Jabari Smith to me is JJJ, but he can play the 3 too. He has more backcourt skill potential imo than JJJ ever did.


Ya, he's like the SF/PF version of JJJ.
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Post#638 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:42 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:I do know if chet doesn't get injured hes something different. There's not another him w his skillset who has shown it at a college level

Mostly bc hes a good passer and very unselfish on the offensive end. Great 3 point shooter for a big. Bigger than 7 feet. Elite shot blocker. Elite rebounder.

I could see him having a 15, 12, 4 dimes, 4 blocks kind of stat line shoting 40% from 3, 80+ from the line.


He's like Porzingis with more guard skills.

Wembenyama next year is an even taller Chet with even more guard skills.
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Post#639 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 1, 2022 6:46 pm

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I am still trying to understand between Jovic and Jordan Hall.


Jordan Hall is 20, playing in an okay conference. Jovic is 18.5 and leads his national under 19 team. Now he's playing in a decent Euro League. Jordan Hall is more like a Dalano Banton type prospect.


He is shooting over 35% from 3 (both college years) at high volumn, so I am not sure we can compare him to Banton, even though his ass% is near 40% (Jovic at 20%), which I can see him being a PG than Jovic being a scorer.

Out side of Jovic being younger (Jovic will be 19 at draft night, so it is 1.5 year old difference, not that much), I see them being very similar, perhaps the only thing I would look at is their defense.


I would add that being 6'10 vs 6'8 makes a big difference. Neither are THAT athletic so the added size to pass and shoot over other players matters.
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Post#640 » by Ell Curry » Tue Feb 1, 2022 11:13 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:There are a couple of raw Euro Cs we can go after but yeah agree there are slim pickings. But with our development we might be able to take a couple of them and make them a monster if they go undrafted or if we get a second round pick. Besides that I agree we're not going for a C.


I haven't heard of Khalifa Diop but he's at 62 on Vecenie's list, though that could means he gets drafted since stashes are nice for teams with multiple picks.
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