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Trade chips to be sellers….

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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#21 » by Drwho17 » Wed Feb 2, 2022 7:05 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:If LAL offered Nunn (5Mil expiring) + two seconds for Diallo what do ya'll think Detroit would say?

Not interested, probably need to offer for him what you was reported for Grant, although I don't really know if I even want THT.
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#22 » by coolness » Wed Feb 2, 2022 9:45 pm

EDIT: my idea #4 should have at least a very small protection on our 2023 1st. Maybe just don't do idea #4.

1. CoJo, Diallo, Lyles, Olynk for Dragic, expirings, 2022 mid-1st (projected 13th, but probably move lower with improved bench)

2. Grant for Prince, expirings, 2022 mid 1st (projected 17th)

3. before draft Hayes, Garza, Livers, Lee, all our 2nds to OKC for Favors, LAC 2022 1st (projected 15th), Green from Philly, who probably gives a 2nd or two to OKC while taking Livers.

EDIT: this one might suck in even my opinion. have a small protection on 2023 1st or just scrap this idea completely.
4. at draft - 2nd pick Chet, trade 13th, 15th, 17th and unconditional 2023 1st for rights to Bennedict Mathurin and Keegan Murray


Green and Favors who expire in 2023
Bey and Stewart
Cade
Chet, Mathurin, and Murray

sign Simons and Hartenstein

that's 10 players and little to no cap left after that, try to get half-decent vets especially at center and pg (maybe renew Frank Jackson??)

don't worry, this probably means I won't post an idea for a while
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#23 » by JohnReese » Thu Feb 3, 2022 1:10 am

I think we will keep Olynik and Cojo and we will only move Grant+salary fillers.
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#24 » by kpt » Thu Feb 3, 2022 1:52 pm

Currently, the east has teams 1-6 within 3.5 games of each other and west has teams 4-9 within 6 games of each other. Of which, only 2 are 7-3 in their last 10. None better. In my mind, all these team could be buyers to get them to the next level. A lot of potential for the sellers. Weaver get it done.
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#25 » by FloridaMan78 » Thu Feb 3, 2022 3:27 pm

kpt wrote:Currently, the east has teams 1-6 within 3.5 games of each other and west has teams 4-9 within 6 games of each other. Of which, only 2 are 7-3 in their last 10. None better. In my mind, all these team could be buyers to get them to the next level. A lot of potential for the sellers. Weaver get it done.


Kings are a game and a half out of the play in tournament and have the longest playoff drought in the NBA. They have an owner that’s pretty dumb and are desperate to make the playoffs. They should be our trade partners. I want their draft pick because I think they’re still gonna suck.

They are the 5th worst team with a 40% chance to be a top 4 pick. Grant for Bagley, Harkless, 2022 unprotected 1st.

Draft Chet and Ivey.
Sign Bamba

Ivey/Hayes
Cade/Frank J
Bey/Diallo
Chet/Olynyk
Bamba/Stewart
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#26 » by Kilo » Thu Feb 3, 2022 3:39 pm

Nobody will trade unprotected firsts anymore - especially in the season where they're a bubble playoff team. Unprotected picks are 4-5 years down the line after decreasing protections from desperate GM's who are making moves to keep their jobs now.
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#27 » by FloridaMan78 » Thu Feb 3, 2022 4:09 pm

Kilo wrote:Nobody will trade unprotected firsts anymore - especially in the season where they're a bubble playoff team. Unprotected picks are 4-5 years down the line after decreasing protections from desperate GM's who are making moves to keep their jobs now.


Even a top 3 or 4 protected pick could net us Ivey or Sharpe. Either with one of the top bigs with our pick would set us up for the future.
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#28 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 3, 2022 4:15 pm

JohnReese wrote:I think we will keep Olynik and Cojo and we will only move Grant+salary fillers.

Which I think is the right move. IMO KO has more value to the team than Cojo and is under contract for a year longer anyway (although only $3 million guaranteed in 2023-24). That's not to say that one or even both of them shouldn't be considered if the right offer was made, but they play a couple of key positions relative to the having a vet presence and even Cojo is playing pretty well as of late. Point being, you trade away those guys and maybe even Lyles for prospects/picks, and you're potentially right back to having so much youth that the team is lacking--and needs--a vet presence again.
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Re: Trade chips to be sellers…. 

Post#29 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 3, 2022 5:03 pm

Bulls just traded two (21 & 23) top 4 protected picks. Usually unprotected picks are only when a team is moving 3 of them every other year for a superstar.

I think its really just a matter of whether or not a team needs to give that extra incentive to a get a deal done.

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