Is Tyrese Maxey already a better player than Ben Simmons?

[JRoy]

Nice attempt to move the goalposts. You are good at that - aren't you?

You said Maxey does not have an elite skill. I said he does.

Speed
Finishing at the rim
AST/TO ratio

Thanks for playing.

I acknowledged the a/t ratio, which I did not know.

Simmons is pretty fast and still a far better player than Maxey.

Which you yourself voted. Thanks for playing.

Aren't those goalposts heavy?

Now we are comparing Maxey to Simmons, are we? You are so GOOD at this!

You said that Maxey does not have any elite NBA skills. I said that Maxey's speed is elite.

You said Simmons is faster, which 1) may or may not be true and 2) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER MAXEY'S SPEED IS ELITE.

Now, if you move these goalposts one more time, as per the rules of the game, you are disqualified.

Thanks again for playing!

I didn’t speak on those because I don’t know anything about those.

I do know that there is no comparison between an all nba guy and a low tier starter, which again, you admitted.

Good day.

[Cookin Baskets]

Ridiculous.

Maxey is a low level starter without any elite skill.

Simmons, for all his flaws, is an elite defensive player, strong playmaker and great athlete.

Anyone pushing this narrative has an agenda.

Really? Low Level starter. Now that is a ridiculous take. Clearly you have not watched the 76ers lately. He has been amazing as of late.
I'm not saying he is better then Simmons (yet) but he is at least willing to take shoots and he is having an excellent sophomore season. It is very hard to have a fair comparison because of Simmon's unique skillset. Quite frankly at this point anyone is better then Simmons for us with his attitude and being a diva not playing at all.

[SelfishPlayer]

Ridiculous.

Maxey is a low level starter without any elite skill.

Simmons, for all his flaws, is an elite defensive player, strong playmaker and great athlete.

Anyone pushing this narrative has an agenda.

Assist to turnover ratio.

Thats really good, especially for a young guy.

People aren't seeing that he's Billups 2.0.

[JRoy]

Ridiculous.

Maxey is a low level starter without any elite skill.

Simmons, for all his flaws, is an elite defensive player, strong playmaker and great athlete.

Anyone pushing this narrative has an agenda.

Really? Low Level starter. Now that is a ridiculous take. Clearly you have not watched the 76ers lately. He has been amazing as of late.
I'm not saying he is better then Simmons (yet) but he is at least willing to take shoots and he is having an excellent sophomore season. It is very hard to have a fair comparison because of Simmon's unique skillset. Quite frankly at this point anyone is better then Simmons for us with his attitude and being a diva not playing at all.

It is tough to compare skill sets because of Simmons. I think he’d best at F with a more traditional pg running the offense and BS as a secondary facilitator, not that it really matters what I think.

If Maxey is not a low tier starter, which starting point guards would you rank below him as players (contracts are a different conversation)?

The very first of rating I pulled up rated him #21 among starting pgs, which is better than I expected so maybe I am rating him too harshly.

Where would you rank him?

[bebopdeluxe]

Assist to turnover ratio.

Thats really good, especially for a young guy.

People aren't seeing that he's Billups 2.0.

Not sure if you are serious. That is a pretty aggressive comp. Personally, I think it fits. The kid comes up big in big games.

This was his first college game. Michigan State at MSG.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/28017999

DAGGER

[SelfishPlayer]

Thats really good, especially for a young guy.

People aren't seeing that he's Billups 2.0.

Not sure if you are serious. That is a pretty aggressive comp. Personally, I think it fits. The kid comes up big in big games.

This was his first college game. Michigan State at MSG.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/28017999

DAGGER

Billups was a bust for years.

[rzzzzz]

Maxey will be a much better fit for JoJo in the playoffs.

[JRoy]

People aren't seeing that he's Billups 2.0.

Not sure if you are serious. That is a pretty aggressive comp. Personally, I think it fits. The kid comes up big in big games.

This was his first college game. Michigan State at MSG.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/28017999

DAGGER

Billups was a bust for years.

It took him a few years to hit his stride.

[picc]

Simmons is more talented and better in the regular season. Maxey may be more useful in the playoffs against good teams.

[bebopdeluxe]

People aren't seeing that he's Billups 2.0.

Not sure if you are serious. That is a pretty aggressive comp. Personally, I think it fits. The kid comes up big in big games.

This was his first college game. Michigan State at MSG.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/28017999

DAGGER

Billups was a bust for years.

Until he was a Finals MVP.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Maxey can break down a defense and get into the lane in the halfcourt, sorry but what Ben brought to the table offensively was crippling them in the halfcourt and negatively impacts Embiid. No amount of perimeter defense is going to make up for the detrimental effect he has on offense against good teams.

[Cookin Baskets]

Ridiculous.

Maxey is a low level starter without any elite skill.

Simmons, for all his flaws, is an elite defensive player, strong playmaker and great athlete.

Anyone pushing this narrative has an agenda.

Really? Low Level starter. Now that is a ridiculous take. Clearly you have not watched the 76ers lately. He has been amazing as of late.
I'm not saying he is better then Simmons (yet) but he is at least willing to take shoots and he is having an excellent sophomore season. It is very hard to have a fair comparison because of Simmon's unique skillset. Quite frankly at this point anyone is better then Simmons for us with his attitude and being a diva not playing at all.

It is tough to compare skill sets because of Simmons. I think he’d best at F with a more traditional pg running the offense and BS as a secondary facilitator, not that it really matters what I think.

If Maxey is not a low tier starter, which starting point guards would you rank below him as players (contracts are a different conversation)?

The very first of rating I pulled up rated him #21 among starting pgs, which is better than I expected so maybe I am rating him too harshly.

Where would you rank him?

He's only going to get better, only in his 2nd year. He has dramatically improved stat wise too from last year. There are some veterans ahead of him on that list that are more established in the league and have been doing it for longer. Maxey is on the incline and has helped the 76ers stay afloat with all this Simmons drama.

[JRoy]

Really? Low Level starter. Now that is a ridiculous take. Clearly you have not watched the 76ers lately. He has been amazing as of late.
I'm not saying he is better then Simmons (yet) but he is at least willing to take shoots and he is having an excellent sophomore season. It is very hard to have a fair comparison because of Simmon's unique skillset. Quite frankly at this point anyone is better then Simmons for us with his attitude and being a diva not playing at all.

It is tough to compare skill sets because of Simmons. I think he’d best at F with a more traditional pg running the offense and BS as a secondary facilitator, not that it really matters what I think.

If Maxey is not a low tier starter, which starting point guards would you rank below him as players (contracts are a different conversation)?

The very first of rating I pulled up rated him #21 among starting pgs, which is better than I expected so maybe I am rating him too harshly.

Where would you rank him?

He's only going to get better, only in his 2nd year. He has dramatically improved stat wise too from last year. There are some veterans ahead of him on that list that are more established in the league and have been doing it for longer. Maxey is on the incline and has helped the 76ers stay afloat with all this Simmons drama.

That may or may not happen.

Where would you rank him today?

[LivingLegend]

Quit making blasphemous threads about Tyrese Maxey before you make me hate him.

[slick_watts]

no, and it isn't close.

never change, realgm.

[Madhouse]

Seems like the Sixers solved their point guard problem. Now they just need to trade Ben for a piece that can make them a contender. Tyrese Maxey already looks like a better player than Ben Simmons. If he was starting last year they would’ve beat the Hawks in the playoffs.

Not at all. Maxey is good for a 2nd year player but his overall impact can't touch Simmons.

[SelfishPlayer]

Seems like the Sixers solved their point guard problem. Now they just need to trade Ben for a piece that can make them a contender. Tyrese Maxey already looks like a better player than Ben Simmons. If he was starting last year they would’ve beat the Hawks in the playoffs.

Not at all. Maxey is good for a 2nd year player but his overall impact can't touch Simmons.

That changes instantly once Maxey gets a favorable whistle. A favorable whistle that Simmons had but avoided accessing due to being a poor free throw shooter and mediocre finisher when not dunking.

[Hangtime84]

Philly looked better in the playoffs with their back-up PGs running the show in previous years, so this is not a surprise.

You just can't play basketball with a non-shooting PG.

If a team trades for Simmons they better start playing him at PF/C in a set offense, otherwise its a waste...

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Simmons would be a great pair with a shooting center or becoming a playmaking center himself.

[rapluva]

Let's wait and see how Maxey does in the playoffs..when a team plans for a player and takes away their offense

[SelfishPlayer]

Philly looked better in the playoffs with their back-up PGs running the show in previous years, so this is not a surprise.

You just can't play basketball with a non-shooting PG.

If a team trades for Simmons they better start playing him at PF/C in a set offense, otherwise its a waste...

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Simmons would be a great pair with a shooting center or becoming a playmaking center himself.

Simmons is totally against playing center, and sabotages those lineups.