Is Tyrese Maxey already a better player than Ben Simmons?

[bbalnation]

Theyre different types of players who play different types of roles on both sides of the ball.

Apples n orangis.

[Snowwy]

This is so funny.

[Cookin Baskets]

It is tough to compare skill sets because of Simmons. I think he’d best at F with a more traditional pg running the offense and BS as a secondary facilitator, not that it really matters what I think.

If Maxey is not a low tier starter, which starting point guards would you rank below him as players (contracts are a different conversation)?

The very first of rating I pulled up rated him #21 among starting pgs, which is better than I expected so maybe I am rating him too harshly.

Where would you rank him?

He's only going to get better, only in his 2nd year. He has dramatically improved stat wise too from last year. There are some veterans ahead of him on that list that are more established in the league and have been doing it for longer. Maxey is on the incline and has helped the 76ers stay afloat with all this Simmons drama.

That may or may not happen.

Where would you rank him today?

It is an arbitrary list. It really doesn't matter. It is not as black and white as a list. Maybe around 18-19 if I had to say. There is also another list that has him top 5 player under 24. So I take these lists with a grain of salt. He is on the incline if you see him play he has a killer instinct.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2950752-nbas-24-under-24-rankings-evan-mobley-enters-top-10-luka-loses-no-1-spot

I voted yes cause **** Ben Simmons.

[jstross]

Maxey works his ass off in the gym. His 40% from 3 is very impressive. He'll get better and seeing the whole court in time, but has much to improve as a PG. he's not yet even 22. yet. Certainly a great pick.

Ridiculous.

Maxey is a low level starter without any elite skill.

Simmons, for all his flaws, is an elite defensive player, strong playmaker and great athlete.

Anyone pushing this narrative has an agenda.

Stop. Just stop.

While I am a Sixers fan who voted no in this poll, Maxey's speed with the ball is elite. That was a truly ridiculous statement.

I could go into more detail (such as his dramatic improvement in 3-point shooting, his better than 3-to-1 assist/TO ratio or his elite numbers finishing at the rim), but your ridiculous post does not deserve more.

[jlokine]

if he was better than simmons, he'd be an allstar this year.

[BigGargamel]

LOL this boards hate for Simmons is borderline psychotic.

Maxey is good, but a run of the mill guard scorer.

[marcush]

Stats aren’t everything but just wanted to throw this out there;

Defensive efficiency
2021:107.0
2022: 108.7

Offensive efficiency
2021: 112.5
2022: 111.3

Should the difference be more pronounced when subbing a 3 x all star for a 2nd year guy?

[JimmyPlopper]

Stats aren’t everything but just wanted to throw this out there;

Defensive efficiency
2021:107.0
2022: 108.7

Offensive efficiency
2021: 112.5
2022: 111.3

Should the difference be more pronounced when subbing a 3 x all star for a 2nd year guy?

The difference seems pretty pronounced to me in watching them.

I really like Maxey. But comparing him to Simmons isn't the best way to paint him in a positive light. He was never the pedigree of player that Simmons is and thats okay.

[Tomjas]

Stats aren’t everything but just wanted to throw this out there;

Defensive efficiency
2021:107.0
2022: 108.7

Offensive efficiency
2021: 112.5
2022: 111.3

Should the difference be more pronounced when subbing a 3 x all star for a 2nd year guy?

Team is worse at both ends of the floor despite having one of the league’s easiest schedules

To be expected

I like Tyrese but this is a very weird season

Grizzlies were one of the few decent teams that we have played & we beat them without Joel

Sixers followed that up by losing to the Wizards without Beal

We also lost to the Heat who had some guys I had literally never heard of

There’s a lot of misleading stats out there as the whole season has been whack

[Jhawk03]

if he was better than simmons, he'd be an allstar this year.

FFS I hate logic. Simmons is better than LaMelo, Jaylen Brown and Siakam then.

[Sane]

Maxey’s future looks better than Simmons future. That’s what matters.

Simmons past looks better than Maxey’s past, which is not the most important thing. I doubt Simmons ever gets to those levels again without joining a big market, teams will employ the hawks strategy every regular season game until he’s benched. There will be more media circus around it. I can’t see him making an all star game in a smaller market than Philly, unless he decides to shoot 3pters and open a glimmer of hope about his future.

[Tomjas]

Maxey’s future looks better than Simmons future. That’s what matters.

Simmons past looks better than Maxey’s past, which is not the most important thing. I doubt Simmons ever gets to those levels again without joining a big market, teams will employ the hawks strategy every regular season game until he’s benched. There will be more media circus around it. I can’t see him making an all star game in a smaller market than Philly, unless he decides to shoot 3pters and open a glimmer of hope about his future.

Simmons has never been voted an All Star by fans so market size doesn’t matter

I like Tyrese - good kid, hard worker, right attitude

But he’s not elite at anything & may not ever be

Simmons is elite at several aspects of the game

Call it luck, genetics, whatever as it really doesn’t matter in the end

There’s a massive gulf between them

[Wilfried]

Maxey is a good player. Simmons is a franchise level player. Add Simmons to ANY low level franchise and they immediately become a playoff team.

Why aren't teams all over him than?

He's available, don't they know?
Morey's asking price isn't too high if all this is true

His playmaking is very overrated btw. People tend to mix up playmaking and handing out assists. The assist as a stat is given out way to easy nowadays, Ben is taking advantage of that.

Not saying Maxey is better than him (atm), but he's for sure offering the Sixers something they didn't have before and that's scoring power from the pg position.

[Tomjas]

Maxey is a good player. Simmons is a franchise level player. Add Simmons to ANY low level franchise and they immediately become a playoff team.

Why aren't teams all over him than?

He's available, don't they know?
Morey's asking price isn't too high if all this is true

His playmaking is very overrated btw. People tend to mix up playmaking and handing out assists. The assist as a stat is given out way to easy nowadays, Ben is taking advantage of that.

Not saying Maxey is better than him (atm), but he's for sure offering the Sixers something they didn't have before and that's scoring power from the pg position.

Scoring power

Also 16.9 ppg while offering nothing else

Comparison to Simmons needs to stop as it’s doing disservice to the young man

He’s doing well so just be happy

[Sleep]

Simmons is arguably the best wing defender in the league and a top five fast break guy. Everyone is on the hate train right now but to deny he's a great player is just stupid. He has some glaring flaws yes, but he does a lot of other stuff at an elite level.

[DroseReturnChi]

Simmons is arguably the best wing defender in the league and a top five fast break guy. Everyone is on the hate train right now but to deny he's a great player is just stupid. He has some glaring flaws yes, but he does a lot of other stuff at an elite level.

you can tell who takes basketball seriously or not. i am not going to claim i watch sixers game but i dont need to waste my time to claim simmons is a superior player to maxey even factoring in contract, age. maxey will never make all nba, let alone all star. ppg is only part of the game you cant judge simmons entirely on it and trash him as a bum.

look at the fans who claimed beal is a superstar, dame is a superstar. when their ppg falls, they plummet. but simmons dpoy level defense with magic johnson lite passing ability will never go away until he perishes. dpoy always trumps everyone.

[Hussien Fatal]

Maxey is more of a short shooting guard. That’s why he was drafted 20th overall. If Maxey were 6 foot 6 with his speed Maxey would be much more effective player. He can beat guys off the dribble in the half court. But a lot of his shots can get blocked.

He simply doesn’t have the length to he elite combo guard. He can be a very good guard in the league. Maybe one day a fringe all star.

But he has height and length limitation. Along with an iffy 3 point shot.

His defense is average (not bad but average) but he’s second year player so could improve on that.

Maxes is 6’1” with a 6’8 wing span he just had 4 blocks 2 games ago. His length is fine.

[bebopdeluxe]

Stats aren’t everything but just wanted to throw this out there;

Defensive efficiency
2021:107.0
2022: 108.7

Offensive efficiency
2021: 112.5
2022: 111.3

Should the difference be more pronounced when subbing a 3 x all star for a 2nd year guy?

I was listening to a Sixers podcast that said that when Maxey is in the game, the Sixers are the best team in the NBA in terms of taking care of the basketball, but when he is off the floor, they fall to 27th.

That's pretty good...isn't it?

[SixersSince82]

Better scorer but not a better all around player.

Its really a shame. Maxey is a poor man's version of what Fultz was "suppose" to be. If Ben would just suit up and shoot corner 3s... this roster would actually come together quite well.