Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism

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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#61 » by marcush » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:22 am

Shaq may have been a diva but he never just quit.

That’s the revealing thing about how Ben handled this …. he didn’t do a Butler and arrogantly challenge his teammates and dominate practice …. he meekly reported to practice and did the absolute minimum.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#62 » by sacking123 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:40 am

With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#63 » by kuclas » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:04 am

simonbampfield wrote:With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.

You don’t reward bad behavior by Simmons. He’s a professional athlete and subject to criticism. He’s being paid. And he’s refusing to show up except for certain activities. So he’s collecting a paycheck for refusing to play cause his feelings are hurt.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#64 » by sacking123 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:24 am

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simonbampfield wrote:With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.

You don’t reward bad behavior by Simmons. He’s a professional athlete and subject to criticism. He’s being paid. And he’s refusing to show up except for certain activities. So he’s collecting a paycheck for refusing to play cause his feelings are hurt.

Cool.
This isn't kindy though and get sent to the corner. Reward for bad behavior can be across both sides yes? Doc, Embiid, Morey refusing to trade him, all "bad behavior".
These are all professionals and subject to criticism. Do you believe Morey or the rest of the league that his demands are so over the top that he doesn't want to do a deal?
Morey is also being paid, to show up, except certain activities, like trades. Oh no, he does get paid for not doing anything on that front.
Everyone can say Morey doesn't need to do anything, but in good faith he has and would have tried to trade BS the entire time he has been with the organisation and yet now he wants to wait it out for a superstar, which he is painting himself into a corner of Harden or nothing. Beal won't sign there. Lillard won't be traded there. Harden will sign there, but I doubt the Nets play ball that easilly.

FWIW I don't like BS. I don't think he has handled it well. I don't think the 6ers have either from the FO to the coaching staff to the players. I don't think BS should be strung up for it though.
It wreaks of people simply being jealous of NBA players. Jealous of the current era of player empowerment. It's changed. Get over it. It was hard for me to as well, I'm old haha. I don't like it either, but it's reality.
Anyone that simply points to he shouldn't have signed the contract. Well, would you have given all that money up? No you wouldn't and if you say that you would I am calling you a liar. He wanted to play with the 6ers when he signed. Then he was shopped for Harden and going into the most recent off season he was going to be shopped once again due to the poor POs etc. He decided to take his career into his own hands, somewhat and yep it's backfired because he is up against a GM that refuses to not get a star in a trade.
Now I'm not saying the 6ers should do whatever, they should work with him to find the most suitable trade within a reasonable time. That has passed and this is going past the deadline. But what the 6ers have done to BS, is just as bad as what BS has done to the 6ers, yet only 1 person is getting heat.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#65 » by Tomjas » Fri Feb 4, 2022 11:35 am

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simonbampfield wrote:With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.

You don’t reward bad behavior by Simmons. He’s a professional athlete and subject to criticism. He’s being paid. And he’s refusing to show up except for certain activities. So he’s collecting a paycheck for refusing to play cause his feelings are hurt.


Okay, let’s deal with reality

Simmons doesn’t want to play for the Sixers and the only reason he will agree to play for them again is money & getting traded asap

Everyone knows that including the team

He’s not going to start for a while as that will destroy team dynamics so he will be sitting on the end of the bench next to Paul Reed

25% of the cap spent on a garbage time player :crazy:

What’s your solution unless he actually wants to play for the Sixers again?
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#66 » by garrick » Fri Feb 4, 2022 12:21 pm

According to sources close to Simmons, he’s upset that Embiid seemed to blame him for last season’s playoff loss, when Simmons did not blame Embiid for Embiid’s poor showing in the playoffs against the Toronto Raptors in 2019. He’s frustrated that Rivers didn’t come to see him while he was training in Los Angeles last summer.

Simmons doesn’t dispute that he didn’t reply when Rivers texted and called him several times over the summer asking to see him. But in hindsight, Simmons feels Rivers and the Sixers could’ve done more, like show up at a well-known gym in the San Fernando Valley where he was training.


The guy is mentally weak and a mental midget, upset that Doc Rivers didn't visit him yet didn't pick up the phone or reply to texts when Doc tried contacting him.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#67 » by Tomjas » Fri Feb 4, 2022 12:24 pm

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According to sources close to Simmons, he’s upset that Embiid seemed to blame him for last season’s playoff loss, when Simmons did not blame Embiid for Embiid’s poor showing in the playoffs against the Toronto Raptors in 2019. He’s frustrated that Rivers didn’t come to see him while he was training in Los Angeles last summer.

Simmons doesn’t dispute that he didn’t reply when Rivers texted and called him several times over the summer asking to see him. But in hindsight, Simmons feels Rivers and the Sixers could’ve done more, like show up at a well-known gym in the San Fernando Valley where he was training.


The guy is mentally weak and a mental midget, upset that Doc Rivers didn't visit him yet didn't pick up the phone or reply to texts when Doc tried contacting him.


Doc is an hopeless coach & should have been sacked after the Atlanta series

That loss was on him
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#68 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Feb 4, 2022 12:30 pm

Simmons value is going down, down down.

He already was an overpaid guy who showed no signs of wanting to get better and had a skill set that needed to be buiult around very carefully to exploit said skill.

Now, not so much
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#69 » by Childs » Fri Feb 4, 2022 12:31 pm



Sounds like some personal issues still.
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Post#70 » by Tomjas » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:01 pm

Childs wrote:

Sounds like some personal issues still.


Obvious to anyone who watches him

Pretty sad
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#71 » by DroseReturnChi » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:03 pm

why is shaq revealing them? to get him exposed? he has an agenda.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#72 » by axeman23 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:14 pm

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Aren't llamas softer?


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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#73 » by Childs » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:26 pm

Tomjas wrote:
Childs wrote:

Sounds like some personal issues still.


Obvious to anyone who watches him

Pretty sad


And yet he was frustrated that Rivers did not come see him when he was training in Los Angeles, and then previously turned down a whole of texts and calls from Rivers asking him to see him...how does that make sense?
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#74 » by axeman23 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:28 pm

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:How did Shaq end up playing with Wade again?

Maybe he's not the best person to take advice from on this.


Did you actually listen to the 2 minute shaq audio? He is actually the best person to take advice from this since he very honestly talks about how him and Kobe were dumb and could have had up to 7-8 titles if they didn’t argue all the time about “who’s team it is” and this and that…. He says none of it really matters and he regrets not making it work and letting the ego drive you.


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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#75 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Feb 4, 2022 2:11 pm

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Forget burnt bridges, bridge is nuked. Although Embiid could be referring to something else.


That post was about Cameroon losing in the Africa Cup of Nations tournament. Nice try, though.


Not really, I am a professional troll so I know how his mind operates. He is referring to Simmons, but has a fallback option (Africa Cup) for when he is asked lol
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#76 » by kuclas » Fri Feb 4, 2022 2:31 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
kuclas wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.

You don’t reward bad behavior by Simmons. He’s a professional athlete and subject to criticism. He’s being paid. And he’s refusing to show up except for certain activities. So he’s collecting a paycheck for refusing to play cause his feelings are hurt.

Cool.
This isn't kindy though and get sent to the corner. Reward for bad behavior can be across both sides yes? Doc, Embiid, Morey refusing to trade him, all "bad behavior".
These are all professionals and subject to criticism. Do you believe Morey or the rest of the league that his demands are so over the top that he doesn't want to do a deal?
Morey is also being paid, to show up, except certain activities, like trades. Oh no, he does get paid for not doing anything on that front.
Everyone can say Morey doesn't need to do anything, but in good faith he has and would have tried to trade BS the entire time he has been with the organisation and yet now he wants to wait it out for a superstar, which he is painting himself into a corner of Harden or nothing. Beal won't sign there. Lillard won't be traded there. Harden will sign there, but I doubt the Nets play ball that easilly.

FWIW I don't like BS. I don't think he has handled it well. I don't think the 6ers have either from the FO to the coaching staff to the players. I don't think BS should be strung up for it though.
It wreaks of people simply being jealous of NBA players. Jealous of the current era of player empowerment. It's changed. Get over it. It was hard for me to as well, I'm old haha. I don't like it either, but it's reality.
Anyone that simply points to he shouldn't have signed the contract. Well, would you have given all that money up? No you wouldn't and if you say that you would I am calling you a liar. He wanted to play with the 6ers when he signed. Then he was shopped for Harden and going into the most recent off season he was going to be shopped once again due to the poor POs etc. He decided to take his career into his own hands, somewhat and yep it's backfired because he is up against a GM that refuses to not get a star in a trade.
Now I'm not saying the 6ers should do whatever, they should work with him to find the most suitable trade within a reasonable time. That has passed and this is going past the deadline. But what the 6ers have done to BS, is just as bad as what BS has done to the 6ers, yet only 1 person is getting heat.

Well. Ben can accept a buyout of $0. Would he and klutch be willing to to forgo 120 million guarantee and to disincentivizing this type of rogue player behavior. Make him a free agent after most of the free agent money has dried up. So he can play for mid level exemption on a one year contract.

Look. This is childish behavior by Simmons. He sign a mega max rookie extension guarantee for 5 years.

So the next CBA. Would players be happy with yearly contracts? That would solve all this mess. Sure. And 95% of nba players would be pissed for the new “Simmons” rule for one year contract.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#77 » by Ruma85 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 3:32 pm

EmperorLocky wrote:If Simmons wants to prove Shaq wrong and the rest of the world then get on the court.

Such a childish kid. Never been told the truth in his life. Blames Sixers for treating him wrong when he played liked a scared kid in the playoffs. Scared of free throws. Watch Rodman shoot free throws. He was more than happy to fire up the crowd and get cheers for making a free throws.

We seen Simmons childish attitude early in his career claiming racism against a casino for daring to check his id. Even in his rookie season showing complete arrogance to the rookie class like he was the second coming of Jordan.

So glad Australia got a real rookie point guard with the right attitude in Josh Giddey. Australia hates diva Ben. We love Giddey... and Shaq.


Australia should do some good things on the big stage with Giddey, hope he keeps working on his shot, His attitude towards the game so vastly different between the two australian players.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#78 » by Ruma85 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 3:46 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
kuclas wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.

You don’t reward bad behavior by Simmons. He’s a professional athlete and subject to criticism. He’s being paid. And he’s refusing to show up except for certain activities. So he’s collecting a paycheck for refusing to play cause his feelings are hurt.

Cool.
This isn't kindy though and get sent to the corner. Reward for bad behavior can be across both sides yes? Doc, Embiid, Morey refusing to trade him, all "bad behavior".
These are all professionals and subject to criticism. Do you believe Morey or the rest of the league that his demands are so over the top that he doesn't want to do a deal?
Morey is also being paid, to show up, except certain activities, like trades. Oh no, he does get paid for not doing anything on that front.
Everyone can say Morey doesn't need to do anything, but in good faith he has and would have tried to trade BS the entire time he has been with the organisation and yet now he wants to wait it out for a superstar, which he is painting himself into a corner of Harden or nothing. Beal won't sign there. Lillard won't be traded there. Harden will sign there, but I doubt the Nets play ball that easilly.

FWIW I don't like BS. I don't think he has handled it well. I don't think the 6ers have either from the FO to the coaching staff to the players. I don't think BS should be strung up for it though.
It wreaks of people simply being jealous of NBA players. Jealous of the current era of player empowerment. It's changed. Get over it. It was hard for me to as well, I'm old haha. I don't like it either, but it's reality.
Anyone that simply points to he shouldn't have signed the contract. Well, would you have given all that money up? No you wouldn't and if you say that you would I am calling you a liar. He wanted to play with the 6ers when he signed. Then he was shopped for Harden and going into the most recent off season he was going to be shopped once again due to the poor POs etc. He decided to take his career into his own hands, somewhat and yep it's backfired because he is up against a GM that refuses to not get a star in a trade.
Now I'm not saying the 6ers should do whatever, they should work with him to find the most suitable trade within a reasonable time. That has passed and this is going past the deadline. But what the 6ers have done to BS, is just as bad as what BS has done to the 6ers, yet only 1 person is getting heat.


What should the Sixers do in your opinion, because from where i'm standing there's nothing they can do. they tried to get Ben to commit to play so he can be traded he doesn't want to, he should at least sit with the team on the bench if he cannot play because of so claim of unfit to play basketball because of mental issues. He went to a mental physician yet he won't release these things to the Sixers physicians. If they get Harden or not in the offseason, they should try to get the best deal possible it's very hard for them to continue to move forward when this mess is linger where ever they go.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#79 » by Onlytimewilltel » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:00 pm

simonbampfield wrote:
kuclas wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:With the way people are talking about BS, including 6ers fans it seems expiring contracts should do for a trade.

You don’t reward bad behavior by Simmons. He’s a professional athlete and subject to criticism. He’s being paid. And he’s refusing to show up except for certain activities. So he’s collecting a paycheck for refusing to play cause his feelings are hurt.

Cool.
This isn't kindy though and get sent to the corner. Reward for bad behavior can be across both sides yes? Doc, Embiid, Morey refusing to trade him, all "bad behavior".
These are all professionals and subject to criticism. Do you believe Morey or the rest of the league that his demands are so over the top that he doesn't want to do a deal?
Morey is also being paid, to show up, except certain activities, like trades. Oh no, he does get paid for not doing anything on that front.
Everyone can say Morey doesn't need to do anything, but in good faith he has and would have tried to trade BS the entire time he has been with the organisation and yet now he wants to wait it out for a superstar, which he is painting himself into a corner of Harden or nothing. Beal won't sign there. Lillard won't be traded there. Harden will sign there, but I doubt the Nets play ball that easilly.

FWIW I don't like BS. I don't think he has handled it well. I don't think the 6ers have either from the FO to the coaching staff to the players. I don't think BS should be strung up for it though.
It wreaks of people simply being jealous of NBA players. Jealous of the current era of player empowerment. It's changed. Get over it. It was hard for me to as well, I'm old haha. I don't like it either, but it's reality.
Anyone that simply points to he shouldn't have signed the contract. Well, would you have given all that money up? No you wouldn't and if you say that you would I am calling you a liar. He wanted to play with the 6ers when he signed. Then he was shopped for Harden and going into the most recent off season he was going to be shopped once again due to the poor POs etc. He decided to take his career into his own hands, somewhat and yep it's backfired because he is up against a GM that refuses to not get a star in a trade.
Now I'm not saying the 6ers should do whatever, they should work with him to find the most suitable trade within a reasonable time. That has passed and this is going past the deadline. But what the 6ers have done to BS, is just as bad as what BS has done to the 6ers, yet only 1 person is getting heat.


Hahhahahaha what a ridiculous post.

Everyone has pros and cons, but the only one of rivers, embiid, morey and Simmons who are actually breaching their contract is Simmons. You say you are “old” but you most certainly don’t sound like it.
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Re: Ben Simmons DMED Shaq To Argue Critisism 

Post#80 » by Lou84 » Fri Feb 4, 2022 4:02 pm

Always had high hopes for Ben but let's call it like it is. He is a diva and thinks he is better than he really is. Everyone that keeps saying "but doc and Joel threw him under the bus" never has played a team sport on a competitive level in his life. If you guys really think that it was awful, I don't know what to tell you. God forbid for all the people that work in hard ass common Jobs, that have to work their asses off to provide for their families and have to listen to all the bull from their superiors.... but a spoiled brat that is a millionaire (because has won the genetic lottery) gets in his feelings because person A said that and person B said that...WTF. You got a problem with someone? Go the **** to the person and confront him, talk about it, bitch about it...whatever...but quitting? What a wanker.

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