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The Turcules question - what do we do with Omer Yurtseven? *With Poll*

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What should we do with Yurt now that Bam is back?

Do nothing. Let him ride the bench, he might get minutes as a backup next season or if there's an injury.
5
17%
Cut Bam's and/or Dedmon's minutes and give Yurt playing time now.
5
17%
Play him next to Bam or Dedmon, Spo needs to find a way to make the big-big pairing work.
15
50%
Trade him for a player Spo will play next to Bam. If we don't bench him for monthes, he might net a nice player in a trade. Maybe someone like a PJ Washington.
4
13%
Other - elaborate in comments
1
3%
 
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Re: The Turcules question - what do we do with Omer Yurtseven? *With Poll* 

Post#41 » by puppa bear » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:32 am

harlem_ball wrote:Packaging Yurt and Robinson together may get the Heat a deal for someone.

If he had stayed in the lineup after Bam’s return, his value would be higher and he could be as valuable as a decent 1st. That would mean we could use him in place of missing draft capital, but I’m not sure we can now.
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Re: The Turcules question - what do we do with Omer Yurtseven? *With Poll* 

Post#42 » by puppa bear » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:45 am

IceColdCubano wrote:Looking at a birds eye view on how Miami operates, from a management perspective you have minute commitments with other players. Unfortunately thats how the cookie crumbles here. He will be revaluated next year, and we may not make additional commitments to other 1 year salary players that are getting minutes this year. This is done 2 fold, one it means you keep players working hard to climb the latter, and agents around the league go to bat for Miami to sign players knowing they won't be dropped from playing time.

At the same time, one could argue that his lack of PT since Bam returned killed his case for a birth in the Rising Stars game. He was averaging 7.4/6.2 when he played 10-19 mpg, so he could have kept a head of steam going. Instead he’s played less than 10 total minutes.

Getting into that game is basically a pathway to an All-Rookie 3rd team, which in turn pretty much guarantees an 8-figure second contract (Nunn got $10.3m over 2 years, DJJ got $19m over 2, and that type of money could set up anyone for life). If they don’t show him more love next year, and give him the space to develop into the player he showed potential to be then the Heat have done the wrong thing by him and his agent.
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Re: The Turcules question - what do we do with Omer Yurtseven? *With Poll* 

Post#43 » by harlem_ball » Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:53 pm

puppa bear wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:Packaging Yurt and Robinson together may get the Heat a deal for someone.

If he had stayed in the lineup after Bam’s return, his value would be higher and he could be as valuable as a decent 1st. That would mean we could use him in place of missing draft capital, but I’m not sure we can now.
If GMs were dumb maybe this would make sense but they do thoroughly research things beyond media hype.
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Post#44 » by puppa bear » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:00 am

harlem_ball wrote:
puppa bear wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:Packaging Yurt and Robinson together may get the Heat a deal for someone.

If he had stayed in the lineup after Bam’s return, his value would be higher and he could be as valuable as a decent 1st. That would mean we could use him in place of missing draft capital, but I’m not sure we can now.
If GMs were dumb maybe this would make sense but they do thoroughly research things beyond media hype.

You can say that, but Nunn, DJJ and Caleb were all released by their first teams and cleared waivers (all other teams passed), before we picked them up. Two of the three have signed for their contract worth 8-figures. There is talk around Caleb looking for MLE money or higher.

GMs might not be dumb, but they like what we find and how we get them better. They see how players can be used and pay to get those players, if they think it’s what they need to plug into their roster holes. Yurts run was comparable to Capela’s third season, just a couple years before he got paid big. Low usage, high efficiency roll bigs (who can defend well enough) generally can find 8-figures.
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Post#45 » by harlem_ball » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:13 am

puppa bear wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:
puppa bear wrote:If he had stayed in the lineup after Bam’s return, his value would be higher and he could be as valuable as a decent 1st. That would mean we could use him in place of missing draft capital, but I’m not sure we can now.
If GMs were dumb maybe this would make sense but they do thoroughly research things beyond media hype.

You can say that, but Nunn, DJJ and Caleb were all released by their first teams and cleared waivers (all other teams passed), before we picked them up. Two of the three have signed for their contract worth 8-figures. There is talk around Caleb looking for MLE money or higher.

GMs might not be dumb, but they like what we find and how we get them better. They see how players can be used and pay to get those players, if they think it’s what they need to plug into their roster holes. Yurts run was comparable to Capela’s third season, just a couple years before he got paid big. Low usage, high efficiency roll bigs (who can defend well enough) generally can find 8-figures.
Those are other points entirely.
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Re: The Turcules question - what do we do with Omer Yurtseven? *With Poll* 

Post#46 » by somerandomdude » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:46 pm

Appreciate Turcules. He doesn't complain and, instead, channels that energy into working harder and staying prepared. Truly a model Heat player (may also be a male model).

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He's also got a sense of humor

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Post#47 » by somerandomdude » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:39 pm

Some old videos of Turcules

Here's two of him being automatic from 3

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Here's two of him at a pickup game

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