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sco · Post #1781 » by **sco** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:52 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:Man, wtf is Portland doing? Terrible trade for them.
Pretty sure Roco alone would net you a 2nd rounder by the deadline.

I wonder if they were worried that given the West's falloff that they were in danger of losing their pick to us this season.

Grodoboldo · Post #1782 » by **Grodoboldo** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:56 pm

sco wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Man, wtf is Portland doing? Terrible trade for them.
Pretty sure Roco alone would net you a 2nd rounder by the deadline.

I wonder if they were worried that given the West's falloff that they were in danger of losing their pick to us this season.

That pick will eventually convey, its protection will last for the next 5 seasons, it's not like it turns into 2 seconds next season. I don't think it justifies dumping assets for a 2nd and a terrible contract in Bledsoe.

Grodoboldo · Post #1783 » by **Grodoboldo** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:00 pm

Also, I don't think this does any favors to Portland's interim FO chances of landing the job permanently.

2weekswithpay · Post #1784 » by **2weekswithpay** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:01 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:Man, wtf is Portland doing? Terrible trade for them.
Pretty sure Roco alone would net you a 2nd rounder by the deadline.

Keon Johnson was a first-round pick this year maybe they liked him?

Grodoboldo · Post #1785 » by **Grodoboldo** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:05 pm

2weekswithpay wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Man, wtf is Portland doing? Terrible trade for them.
Pretty sure Roco alone would net you a 2nd rounder by the deadline.

Keon Johnson was a first-round pick this year maybe they liked him?

Well, he was... fine I guess. Still think this is just too light on Portland's side.

d boy gentleman · Post #1786 » by **d boy gentleman** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:29 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:Man, wtf is Portland doing? Terrible trade for them.
Pretty sure Roco alone would net you a 2nd rounder by the deadline.

Keon Johnson was a first-round pick this year maybe they liked him?

Well, he was... fine I guess. Still think this is just too light on Portland's side.

This was strictly a cap move for the Blazers. It will interesting to see if they move McCollum before the deadline

Grodoboldo · Post #1787 » by **Grodoboldo** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:32 pm

d boy gentleman wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:
2weekswithpay wrote:
Keon Johnson was a first-round pick this year maybe they liked him?

Well, he was... fine I guess. Still think this is just too light on Portland's side.

This was strictly a cap move for the Blazers. It will interesting to see if they move McCollum before the deadline

I guess. But it's still brutal, hard to believe there won't be better alternatives available by the deadline.

step · Post #1788 » by **step** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:35 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Wow.

Does this get Portland out of the luxury tax? Feels awful on court for them

Yes.

https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/33216994/sources-la-clippers-acquire-norman-powell-portland-trail-blazers-5-player-trade

The emergence of Anfernee Simons allows for the Blazers to move off the balance of Powell's long-term contract, which runs through the 2025-26 season -- giving the Clippers a proven two-way wing to partner with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

Additionally, Portland is now under the luxury tax threshold.

d boy gentleman · Post #1789 » by **d boy gentleman** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 8:36 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:
Well, he was... fine I guess. Still think this is just too light on Portland's side.

This was strictly a cap move for the Blazers. It will interesting to see if they move McCollum before the deadline

I guess. But it's still brutal, hard to believe there won't be better alternatives available by the deadline.

I think they also wanted to get out of Powell's contract as well 4 more years left on that deal.

Grodoboldo · Post #1790 » by **Grodoboldo** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:03 pm

d boy gentleman wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:
This was strictly a cap move for the Blazers. It will interesting to see if they move McCollum before the deadline

I guess. But it's still brutal, hard to believe there won't be better alternatives available by the deadline.

I think they also wanted to get out of Powell's contract as well 4 more years left on that deal.

I don't find that deal that bad. Maybe I'm the one who's off on their guys value.

d boy gentleman · Post #1791 » by **d boy gentleman** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 9:11 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
d boy gentleman wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:
I guess. But it's still brutal, hard to believe there won't be better alternatives available by the deadline.

I think they also wanted to get out of Powell's contract as well 4 more years left on that deal.

I don't find that deal that bad. Maybe I'm the one who's off on their guys value.

I don't either for a guy that's giving you nearly 19 a game. However, Portland was over the tax line and not playoff bound, so it makes sense for them

MrSparkle · Post #1792 » by **MrSparkle** » Fri Feb 4, 2022 10:32 pm

POR gunning for a top-10 pick here. LAC's loading up.

I just wonder how far POR goes. I can see NOP trading for CJ. They have tons of expendable young players and picks (between their own, LAL, MIL). Hart/Sato/Hayes/Kira(ACL) + 1 or 2 heavily protected FRPs ought to do it.

dice · Post #1793 » by **dice** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:23 am

Little Nathan wrote:
dice wrote:
BullChit wrote:All 3 of those Timberwolves Lottery picks are all stars this year - Lavine, KAT and Wiggins...

and at least one of them deserves it!

KAT and Zach were locks to make it.

i agree

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1794 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 2:49 am

Jarrett Allen with 29/22 vs Charlotte. Hopefully he take Durant's spot in the AS game.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #1795 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 3:06 am

Read on Twitter

Maybe the worst call of all time.

Whistle blown
Hornets player shoots three after the whistle and misses
Cavs player from bench touched shooter on the dead ball miss

Refs award the Hornets the 3 point shot (which was missed and on a dead ball) and a technical for touching the player

FriedRise · Post #1796 » by **FriedRise** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 4:43 am

Nets lost again. That's 7 in a row. They're half a game away from being in the play-in. Toronto and Boston are both trending up.

If Harden gets traded to Philly, wonder what they're gonna end up doing with KD and Kyrie. Blow it up and build around Ben Simmons?

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1797 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 5:12 am

FriedRise wrote:Nets lost again. That's 7 in a row. They're half a game away from being in the play-in. Toronto and Boston are both trending up.

If Harden gets traded to Philly, wonder what they're gonna end up doing with KD and Kyrie. Blow it up and build around Ben Simmons?

Simmons is a great fit with KD and Kyrie, so I see no reason to blow it up.

TSS · Post #1798 » by **TSS** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 12:48 pm

Although I am a Lauri supporter, please do not shoot me as I come in peace

I am trying to make some sense on the play Chicago-Bull-E posted above from the Cavs game last night.
I already posted my question on general board but did not really get a definitive answer and if I learned something over the years spent here, it is that there is some deep NBA knowledge around.

This is what I posted in GB and I am really interested whether the rule I am asking after exists as I cannot find it myself.
Thanks already beforehand.

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I watched this play quite a few times and I need some help understanding how it is possible for the refs to end up with the decision they did. In my 35 years of playing, coaching and following basketball in general I have never seen two separate aspects of this play happen before.

1. Count a basket on a shot which is taken 3-4 seconds and two passes after whistle was blown

2. Count a basket on a missed shot when there is no goaltending in play.

The only way I could think refs made the decision they did, is that they thought the shot was taken before the whistle and there is a rule in NBA which would make bench interference equal to goaltending. Does someone know whether the latter is the case?

/TSS

step · Post #1799 » by **step** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:23 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Maybe the worst call of all time.

Whistle blown
Hornets player shoots three after the whistle and misses
Cavs player from bench touched shooter on the dead ball miss

Refs award the Hornets the 3 point shot (which was missed and on a dead ball) and a technical for touching the player

Yeah I don't get it, the play should be dead the moment the whistle goes.

However, the other ref doesn't hear that and thinks it's continuing and makes his own call?
Don't the others just go hey, we stopped the play here...?
But why does someone on the bench even try to interfere?

What's even worse, it's not even someone that's suited up to play...

TSS · Post #1800 » by **TSS** » Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:25 pm

step wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Maybe the worst call of all time.

Whistle blown
Hornets player shoots three after the whistle and misses
Cavs player from bench touched shooter on the dead ball miss

Refs award the Hornets the 3 point shot (which was missed and on a dead ball) and a technical for touching the player

Yeah I don't get it, the play should be dead the moment the whistle goes.

However, the other ref doesn't hear that and thinks it's continuing and makes his own call?
Don't the others just go hey, we stopped the play here...?
But why does someone on the bench even try to interfere?

I fully agree that the bench should not interfere with anything, but the ball is dead and they count a missed shot. There must be some rule I am not aware of. You cannot arbitrarily give 3 points for a missed shot I think.